Beaten Obama turns his back on the world

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  1. W.G.Ewald

    W.G.Ewald Defence Professionals/ DFI member of 2 Defence Professionals

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    Beaten Obama turns his back on the world | New York Post
     
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    Obama Has done the right thing, this is called chewing what you can eat a.k.a realism.
     
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    I don't think the author in any remote sense is implying at creating a new Taliban ( albeit a new kind of Taliban).
     
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    I always felt, it would be nice to know what President Obama and PM Singh had in common, as they share a good chemistry.

    Now, I know. They both like to set and publicly state red lines but, don't know what to do if those are breached.
     
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    US has never confronted with force against USSR or Russia only through proxy war that to when opposing party is an puppet in US hand

    Crimea is different ball game as per voting 90% want to merge to Russian federation , the Covert war plan stops there

    what can he do create Taliban 2 against Russia?? I guess Taliban 1 in Afghanistan has given good returns to US & NATO for creating

    Obama is sensible , he knows what's going to happen when NATO face off with Russia militarily with Putin Incharge:thumb:
     
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    Mitt Romney: The Price of Failed Leadership - WSJ.com

    Why are there no good choices? From Crimea to North Korea, from Syria to Egypt, and from Iraq to Afghanistan, America apparently has no good options. If possession is nine-tenths of the law, Russia owns Crimea and all we can do is sanction and disinvite—and wring our hands.

    Iran is following North Korea's nuclear path, but it seems that we can only entreat Iran to sign the same kind of agreement North Korea once signed, undoubtedly with the same result.

    Our tough talk about a red line in Syria prompted Vladimir Putin's sleight of hand, leaving the chemicals and killings much as they were. We say Bashar Assad must go, but aligning with his al Qaeda-backed opposition is an unacceptable option.

    And how can it be that Iraq and Afghanistan each refused to sign the status-of-forces agreement with us—with the very nation that shed the blood of thousands of our bravest for them?

    Why, across the world, are America's hands so tied?

    A large part of the answer is our leader's terrible timing. In virtually every foreign-affairs crisis we have faced these past five years, there was a point when America had good choices and good options. There was a juncture when America had the potential to influence events. But we failed to act at the propitious point; that moment having passed, we were left without acceptable options. In foreign affairs as in life, there is, as Shakespeare had it, "a tide in the affairs of men which, taken at the flood leads on to fortune. Omitted, all the voyage of their life is bound in shallows and in miseries."

    When protests in Ukraine grew and violence ensued, it was surely evident to people in the intelligence community—and to the White House—that President Putin might try to take advantage of the situation to capture Crimea, or more. That was the time to talk with our global allies about punishments and sanctions, to secure their solidarity, and to communicate these to the Russian president. These steps, plus assurances that we would not exclude Russia from its base in Sevastopol or threaten its influence in Kiev, might have dissuaded him from invasion.

    Months before the rebellion began in Syria in 2011, a foreign leader I met with predicted that Assad would soon fall from power. Surely the White House saw what this observer saw. As the rebellion erupted, the time was ripe for us to bring together moderate leaders who would have been easy enough for us to identify, to assure the Alawites that they would have a future post-Assad, and to see that the rebels were well armed.

    The advent of the Arab Spring may or may not have been foreseen by our intelligence community, but after Tunisia, it was predictable that Egypt might also become engulfed. At that point, pushing our friend Hosni Mubarak to take rapid and bold steps toward reform, as did Jordan's king, might well have saved lives and preserved the U.S.-Egypt alliance.

    The time for securing the status-of-forces signatures from leaders in Iraq and Afghanistan was before we announced in 2011 our troop-withdrawal timeline, not after it. In negotiations, you get something when the person across the table wants something from you, not after you have already given it away.

    Able leaders anticipate events, prepare for them, and act in time to shape them. My career in business and politics has exposed me to scores of people in leadership positions, only a few of whom actually have these qualities. Some simply cannot envision the future and are thus unpleasantly surprised when it arrives. Some simply hope for the best. Others succumb to analysis paralysis, weighing trends and forecasts and choices beyond the time of opportunity.

    President Obama and Secretary of State Clinton traveled the world in pursuit of their promise to reset relations and to build friendships across the globe. Their failure has been painfully evident: It is hard to name even a single country that has more respect and admiration for America today than when President Obama took office, and now Russia is in Ukraine. Part of their failure, I submit, is due to their failure to act when action was possible, and needed.

    A chastened president and Secretary of State Kerry, a year into his job, can yet succeed, and for the country's sake, must succeed. Timing is of the essence.

    Mr. Romney is the former governor of Massachusetts and the 2012 Republican nominee for president.

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    Mr.Romney instead of pointing fingers at Obama should introspect on the entire US foreign policy.
     
  9. Ray

    Ray The Chairman Defence Professionals Moderator

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    The moot question is what is 'the world'

    He has turned his back to the Western aspirations and that is about all.

    The West is NOT 'the World' or the 'international community'.

    That label is patently disingenuous!

    Like the famous US cry 'Remember the Alamo', the cry now is 'Member Kosovo'!

    If Kosovo was sauce for the goose, then the West must accept Crimea is sauce for the gander.

    Can't have two standards in the 'international community' or 'the world'!
     
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    Day dreams!

    It would have only prompted Russia to accelerate the process!
     
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    obama and EU ki takri baesti ho gayi, muh kala ho gaya, izzat lut gayi:laugh::laugh::laugh:


    putin dande ke joor pe cremia le gaya:laugh::laugh:



    Amerika ka balatkar ho gayi

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    I have always predicted the resurrection of mighty Russia.
    This is only the beginning.
    US dominance will be broken soon by the rise of Russia and China. :)
     
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    y, u did not predicted the same in 1978 to 1988:p:p:wave::wave:
     
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    Don't be too happy as you would still get lotta love from your illegal Daddy.

    55,000+ Paki Muslims dead because of US.
     
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    US did mistake of creating taliban to destroy russians in afghan and in process created another headache for world,obama did the right thing turn-off your oil thirst for a while and ignore the russians.
     
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    Russians know obama is a pushover perfect time to protect their interest. Obama will
    Repeat useless rhetoric that russians will laugh off.
     
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    Neo in 80's & early 90's ( Afghan Invasion) you called USSR a coward & started covert operation pumping insurgents , now they became mighty :lol:
     
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    I condemed the attack on Afghanistan but I don't recall using the word "coward". Whereas US had technological power, the Soviets provided better and stronger leadership.

    I realised the urge for a multi polar world after seeing US bully the world and destroy regimes of her deslike. Bush Jr was a warminger, a war criminal.
     
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    You people helped USA during Afghan war in 80's , even now you are helping in so called War on terror . Hence you are getting now what you deserve making a Wolf ( USA) sit on your back , you people did that becuase US will bully India in Kashmir issue:lol: but they used you as tissue paper, they instead signed nuclear deal with India inspite of you being there ally in strategic East

    Coming back to War criminal

    Can you people atleast pass a resolution that Bush jr is war criminal??:scared2:

    Then what about General Yalya khan ??:lol:
     
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    Lol, US betrayed us in the wars of '65 and '71 by enforcing weapon embargo and you think we need them to liberate IoC?
    You really should try to discuss Pakistan outside DFI from time to time, you guys are starting to believe some of your own propaganda.

    US nuclear deal was the last nail in the coffin of NPT. China is now building reactors in Pakistan and there's no one to stop :)
     

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