Barack Obama proposes $860 million in aid for Pakistan

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  1. DFI_COAS

    DFI_COAS Regular Member

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    The Obama administration today proposed $860 million in aid for Pakistan, including $265 million for military hardware, which it said would help the country fight terrorists, secure nuclear weapons and improve ties with India.

    While there was no mention of Pakistan in President Barack Obama's budgetary proposals, Secretary of State John Kerry in his proposals said the budget includes $859.8 million towards sustaining ties with Pakistan and making progress to "disrupt, dismantle and defeat violent extremist groups."
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    "The requested funding will support the country's counter-insurgency missions, and bolster stability, energy access, economic growth, and social reform," Kerry said in a letter accompanying his proposals.

    "Pakistan lies at the heart of the US counter-terrorism strategy, the peace process in Afghanistan, nuclear non-proliferation efforts, and economic integration in South and Central Asia," State Department said making its case for the aid to Pakistan under the Overseas Contingency Operations (OCO) fund.

    "OCO resources will support critical US activities such as ensuring the safety of Pakistani nuclear installations,working with Pakistan to facilitate the peace process in Afghanistan, and promoting improved relations with India," it said.

    For Pakistan, the OCO request supports a robust diplomatic presence and critical assistance programmes to advance cooperation and reforms in energy, economic growth, and agriculture, education, health, and stabilisation of areas vulnerable to violent extremism, it said.

    This includes supporting the government and its people, while maintaining diplomacy and outreach in the face of challenging political and security conditions, it said.

    The State Department plans to sustain the presence necessary to "achieve our essential strategic priorities of combating terrorism and enhancing stability in Pakistan and the region following the transition in Afghanistan."

    Under the Economic Support Fund (ESF) of the OCO, the State Department has proposed $400 million to Pakistan.

    The State Department said this will support the US' strategic objectives in the region, including combating terrorism and violent extremism and increasing security, growth and stability within Pakistan and the broader region.

    "The request will also demonstrate the US' commitment to fostering longterm cooperation with the Government of Pakistan in order to address areas of mutual interest," it said.

    Under OCO's International Narcotics Control and Law Enforcement section, the State Department has proposed $40 million for Pakistan-funded programmes that will promote stability during the transition in Afghanistan.

    Proposing $265 million under Foreign Military Funding (FMF)-- which mainly means providing military hardware, the State Department said given the transition in Afghanistan and continued terrorist attacks inside Pakistan, it is essential to Pakistan's efforts to increase stability on its western border and within the country
     
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  3. Sakal Gharelu Ustad

    Sakal Gharelu Ustad Detests Jholawalas Moderator

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    Good job Osama..oops Obama!!!!!!!!!!!
     
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    india should recall her ambassador to amrika and kick amrikan ambassador mix breed richard verma from delhi and cancel apache and chinook deal.

    simple obama ko mama yaad a jayega:bounce::bounce::bounce:
     
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  5. spikey360

    spikey360 Crusader Senior Member

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    USA is an adversary of India, plain and simple. Pakistan is an enemy which wouldn't have survived if not for the USA funding and weapons supply. USA is the ultimate enemy of Bharatvarsh. No one should doubt this fact.
     
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    i dont understand what indian lobby doing in amrika??? watching paki mujra???

    y not evil hindu baniya contact brother jew lobby and control amerikan kangress
     
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    spikey360 Crusader Senior Member

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    Haha! Do you seriously think there is a "India" lobby in Amrika? All Indians who go there, go there under a American visa and try their best to return with an American passport. We cannot expect a lobby to work for Indian interests when the lobby is filled with traitors who do not love their motherland.
    Israelis on the other hand, are a different story. Their life and death, covertly if not overtly are dedicated to their "promised land". This is the differentiator.
     
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    Razor CIDs from Tamilnadu Senior Member

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    So in that respect jews are no different from their islamic brothers; their allegiances are to their "promised land"??
    I mean, TIL that an Indian jew, from mumbai, went and served in the israeli army rather than indian army.
    http://defenceforumindia.com/forum/threads/physical-strength-of-our-armymen.59524/page-2 (post #36, #37)

    On topic, this isn't surprising at all. Geopolitically, the US knows India is not in a position to dictate terms to the americans, considering the ongoing Rus-Chn-pak romcom.
     
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    Very much so. The jews are more attached to Israel than any country of their adoption.
    Of course India is in a position to dictate terms. Only if it pulled up its pants.
    It has always been abundantly clear that the Americans are businessmen first and anything else later. This is opposite to what the Russians are. Agreed they are quite good as businessmen as well, but that is not their primary calling when engaging with us.
    Still, GoI under Modi (unlike MMS, shockingly) chose to better relations with USA than sew up tears in the Indo-Russian relationship first. Probably Russians had enough of our girlish whimsicalness and decided to supply Pakis with some bad hardware.
    So you see, at the end it is Pakis who are emerging winners because of our idiotic policy of maintaining 'good relations' with both Russia and USA. We should get our act together. Join hands with Russia, and counter the Jew funded CIA guided Hydra headed Islamic terrorism which is directed at Russia, India and China.
     
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    Idiots nothing do proactive except whining everybody knows US(west) only cares about their interests not India's or Nepal's.

    If US offered $860 mn give $1mn to TTP,BLA and other anti-paki Islamist groups they bombs schools,buildings,behead kids,butchers army men so that they lost minimum $900mn.

    BTW don't forget popcorn :p
     
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    Here start the dual containment game .Both Iran and Iraq well victim to it ,India should not be a member .Say to America that if this double standard continue then India will not help to counter rise of china .
     
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    I think we now have the ability to affect US policies. The problem is that our leaders lack the courage & the population is apathetic. Look at the current situation - India is the major consumer market driving US economy. Our consumers, tech services and pharmacies are their lifeline. We work to cater to their need.

    Now imagine if India decides to boycott these services, stop supply of US goods & shut down markets of US based franchises. As Lal Bahadur Shastri said, 'Jai Jawan ; Jai Kisan'. After US sanctions against India, he asked the people to reduce food intake, wastage and to boycott use of imported products. And it worked. The people sacrificed their luxuries and we won the 1965 war. And the US was powerless.

    If we can do it now, we have the strength to collapse their economy in a few months. We just need self sufficiency in food. That is how we should deal with those who take us for granted.
     
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    Pakis are already in China camp no matter how much USA tries to lure them in, instead of sanctioning them they are giving pak what they want, TIME, so that chinese technology catch upto west and then they themselves will ditch US.

    This US carrots and sticks used to work in the past when no other nation had the capacity to dangle a carrot like US. Now Chinese have that carrot too. So instead of taking care of this problem, US is just rewarding them, even though they can see it coming.

    Well India, you just keep sending dossiers and taking statement of terrorists who is saying the same thing we all knew the whole time.

    ......and then they all lived happily ever after:laugh:...........must have been written by disney.
     
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    :facepalm: .
     
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    Any one who thinks US is our ally is naive , US only cares about its own interest . We should have a policy to not buy weapons from any military contractor that sells significantly capable weapon systems to Porkland . Once India's GDP crosses a particular high figure US will want to contain India like it currently tries to do against China. In a longer run I don't see India US relationship being friendly in future.
     
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    No one thinks the US is our ally, the only reason we are angry is because we have no counter-measures to US strategic moves. The frustration stems from helplessness.

    I agree with you, we should suspend military purchases from the US. It may not deter the US in their ultimate game but at the very least it will impose a cost on them. We are buying P8i Poseidon, Apache, Chinook, Boeing civilian aircraft and many other expensive things worth billions. But whenever I recommend something like that people like @Sakal Gharelu Ustad accuse me of being a US-phobe. :scared2:
     
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    Weapons ban against not all US defence contractors but only on those that sell to porkland. We don't need to be frustrated but a 300 billion dollar gas and oil deal with Iran for 30 years and a 40 billion dollar FGFA deal with Russia is something to start with .
     
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    $265 million for military hardware:laugh::laugh:
    improve ties with India :pound::pound:
     
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    America has a way of supporting and investing in Both sides of the game!!!
    And America knows how to play both against each other.
     
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    India Disappointed over US Decision to sell F-16 Fighter Jets to Pakistan, will Summon Envoy Richard Verma

    NEW DELHI: India, disappointed with Obama regime's notification to sell F-16 fighter jets to Pakistan, has decided to summon US envoy Richard Verma to lodge protest over the issue.
    "We are disappointed at the decision of the Obama Administration to notify the sale of F-16 aircrafts to Pakistan. We disagree with their rationale that such arms transfers help to combat terrorism.

    The record of the last many years in this regard speaks for itself. The US Ambassador will be summoned by the Ministry of External Affairs to convey our displeasure," the MEA emphasized in a strongly worded statement on Saturday. The deal is valued at $ 699 million.


    On several occasions in the past under the UPA government and during earlier governments Delhi had expressed its displeasure over F-16 sale to Pakistan which it thinks could be used against India.
    This decision by the Obama administration comes in the backdrop of serious differences between US Congress and government on the sale of F-16 jets to Islamabad.

    As late as last Tuesday Senate Foreign Relations Chairman Bob Corker wrote to Secretary of State John Kerry he would block the Obama administration's subsidized sale of up to eight F-16 fighter jets to Pakistan. In a letter on Feb 9, Corker spoke about Islamabad's relationship with the Haqqani network.

    Last month other US Congressmen had also opposed sale of F-16 jets to Islamabad. "I don't know how an F-16, with all of its hardware on there for combat can be used for humanitarian aid. If they were buying C-130s ... I could see those being used for humanitarian aid. But F-16! It's not really humanitarian aid," Congressman Ted Poe had said. "Those F-16s and the military equipment that we are providing Pakistan are being used against their own people, just like they did against the people over there in Bangladesh," said another Congressman Dan Rohrabacher.

    Source>>
     
  21. Nuvneet Kundu

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    This is a government to government sale so the contractor is irrelevant here. The government buys it from the vendor and hands it to Pakistan.
     

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