Bangladesh supports Baloch freedom

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  1. Bengal_Tiger

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    Bangladesh backs Modi on Balochistan


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    Visiting Minister says Dhaka will soon make a policy declaration on Pakistan’s human rights abuses in the restive region
    Bangladesh on Wednesday came out in support of Prime Minister Narendra Modi’s stand on the Balochistan issue, saying Dhaka would soon make a policy declaration on Pakistan’s human rights abuses in Balochistan.

    Speaking to The Hindu, Hasanul Haque Inu, the visiting Minister of Information in the Sheikh Hasina government, said Balochistan was facing the brunt of Pakistan’s military establishment, which “targeted” the Bengalis in East Pakistan in 1971 before the creation of Bangladesh.

    “Pakistan has a very bad track record as far as addressing aspiration of nationalities is concerned. They learnt nothing from the defeat of 1971 and continued to practise the same policy of repression and are now targeting the Baloch nationalists,” Mr. Inu said.

    “Bangladesh is constitutionally bound to support liberation struggles and we will soon declare an official policy on Balochistan,” he added.

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    His comment comparing the Bangladesh Liberation War of 1971 with the situation in Balochistan came a day after Minister of State for External Affairs M J Akbar compared East Pakistan of 1971 with “simmering Balochistan”.

    Mr. Inu is scheduled to spend three days in Delhi, meeting a range of policy-makers, including National Security Advisor Ajit Doval.

    Mr. Inu, a former leader of the Mukti Bahini, the guerrilla force that fought against Pakistan during 1971 war, said Pakistan’s inability to learn from its “historic mistakes” could be explained by the fact that it failed to evolve into a working democracy due to the domination of the Pakistan military in the vital affairs of the state.

    ‘Pakistan exports terror’
    The leader of the Jatiyo Samajtantrik Party (JSD) also said as part of the counter-terror strategy, India and Bangladesh have agreed on a “MoU on data exchange”, which will ensure pre-emptive intervention targeting terrorists.

    “Bangladesh wants India to partner a joint effort to control distortion of Islam and history, which can safeguard the memory of 1971,” the minister said.

    In the last few years, Dhaka has detected multiple cases where Pakistani diplomats posted in Bangladesh were found to have been involved in terror plots.

    “Pakistan exports terror and Pakistan needs to be confronted about the futility of its policies that it has refused to change till now,” Mr. Inu said, sounding a note of caution that Pakistan’s tactics could impact the spirit of regional cooperation in the South Asia region and the SAARC.

    Bangladesh, he said, is worried of the fallout of Pakistan’s official policies regarding nationalities and promotion of cross border violence.

    Seeks explanation
    “Islamabad needs to explain what it wishes to achieve by promoting cross-border terrorism in South Asia and by repressing democratic nationalities like the Baloch in its territory,” Mr. Inu said.

    http://www.thehindu.com/news/national/bangladesh-backs-modi-on-balochistan/article8999721.ece
     
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    1. Pakistan has been provoking Bangladesh for many decades but it has increased in the past few years with the emergence of an Awami League government, this has included:

    - Liaising with radical Islamists in Bangladesh to try and organize a coup. A clear interference in the domestic affairs of a sovereign member of the United Nations.

    - Involvement in plans to try and organize the murder of our prime minister.

    - Open and unashamed support for war criminals.

    - Passing resolutions in both national and regional legislatures against Bangladesh and glorifying war criminals and murderers.

    - Agitating against Bangladesh and inciting Arab countries against us.

    - Instigating Turkey against us.


    2. Bangladesh has been relatively passive and merely attempted to contain the Pakistani threat now Bangladesh is going to highlight Baloch suffering. This is particularly helpful for the Baloch as Bangladeshis are fellow Muslims.

    3. The Baloch will definitely feel happy with this news and it will be interesting to see if any Baloch human rights activists or nationalists visit Dhaka or in the future are hosted here.

    Pakistan has been provoking, insulting and harming Bangladesh for too long.

    Now the gloves are coming off.
     
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    The policy will change once BAL govt is gone.
     
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    Bengal_Tiger Regular Member

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    Though I'm not an AL (Awami League) supporter by any stretch (they are too intolerant e.g. of the opposition for my liking i.e. somewhat anti-democratic) they are almost certainly - barring some major dramatic event - going to win the next elections, so in power for the majority of the next decade.

    Pakistan has 200 million people and constantly expanding. Pakistanis by nature are aggressive so the socio-economic problems that Pakistan faces may lead it to implode, if any of the 3 provinces outside of Punjab secede, Pakistan is finished. The point is Pakistan could collapse during the remainder of the Awami League government's very likely minimum remaining 8 years in power, so who goes to power after them would be irrelevant.
     
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    Does that include the NWFP?

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    The NWFP no longer exists now and is called "Khyber Pakhtunkhwa".

    1. Most Pashtuns in Pakistan are pro-Pakistan.

    Pashtuns are generally simple, decent people so upon being fed propaganda in school and media about love and loyalty for Pakistan their "motherland" they embrace that, added to that they feel that as Muslims they must preserve "Muslim unity" by staying in a multi-ethnic Muslim federation.

    2. Pashtuns are not homogeneous and the more urban Pashtuns are stronger supporters of Pakistan as opposed to the tribal mountain ones, and many Pashtuns in Pakistan are actually Pashtunized Indic people who do not belong to an actual Pashtun tribe.

    If anything out of the three major non-Punjabi ethnicities in Pakistan i.e. Baloch, Sindhi and Pashtun, the Pashtuns are the least likely to separate and the most loyal to the federation....

    BUT...a few days ago Pakistan's main Pashtun nationalist leader did warn of secession if autonomy was revoked.
     
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    Asfandyar warns of disintegration if 18th amendment revoked
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    CHARSADDA: Awami National Party chief Asfandyar Wali Khan warned on Friday that any move to revoke the 18th constitution amendment might lead to the country’s disintegration.

    “Prime Minister Nawaz Sharif should keep in mind that Pakistan will not survive if the 18th amendment is revoked,” he said while addressing a function held in connection with the Babrra incident of 1948 in Charsadda. A large number of ANP workers attended the anniversary.

    The Babrra massacre occurred on August 12, 1948, in Charsadda district when workers of the pre-partition Khudai Khid–matgar movement were fired upon by the provincial government on the orders of then chief minister Abdul Qayyum Khan. The protest was against the promulgation of Public Safety Ordinance by the provincial governor and the resulting arrests of Khudai Khidmatgar leaders and confiscation of properties of the Pakhtun tribe. Claims regarding deaths in the massacre range from 1,000 to more than 1,300 people while many protestors were injured.

    The ANP observes August 12 as a black day in memory of the killing of those workers every year.

    The country, Mr Khan said, was at the crossroads and it’s time “we strengthened the federation rather than revoke the 18th amendment”. Political parties had unanimously passed the constitutional package that guaranteed maximum autonomy to the federating units, he said.

    Commenting on the current situation, the ANP president said that the National Action Plan (NAP) had two parts: one related to the military operation Zarb-i-Azb and the other was the responsibility of the civilian government.

    “The military operation was successful while the government failed to achieve its goals like elimination of targeted killing and acts of terrorism,” he said, adding that the interior minister had failed and not a single suspect had been arrested so far.

    Mr Khan said that his party had never supported military dictators and military courts in the larger interests of the country.

    He said that his party would oppose forcible return of Afghan refugees and condemned the harassment of Afghans at the hands of police. He asked the government to review its foreign policy, particularly the Afghan policy. He said that cordial relations with Afghanistan were in the interest of Pakistan.

    “Afghans were garlanded when our establishment needed them and after achieving the objectives they were expelled,” he maintained.

    Mr Khan said that the ANP would start agitation if Prime Minister Nawaz Sharif did not fulfil his commitments regarding the China-Pakistan Economic Corridor. He said that he never opposed the project and urged the prime minister to fulfil his promise.

    The ANP, he said, was on the side of the opposition on the issue of the terms of reference on Panama leaks, but demanded across-the-board action against those who had offshore companies.

    http://www.dawn.com/news/1277312/asfandyar-warns-of-disintegration-if-18th-amendment-revoked
     
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    By increasing anti India sentiments they can unite every ethnicity. It all comes down to whether India is fully convinced to support Baloch movement at the same scale which pakistan does for kashmir. One thing is for sure if our establishment under Modi Doval decides to separate balochistan .. nobody can stop it from happening.
     
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    What makes you say that? Surely if it were that easy it would have already happened and e.g. India having to deploy hundreds of thousands of security personnel to deal with Pakistani-backed violence in Kashmir would have ended, thus freeing up valuable resources and energy for development?
     
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    Bangladesh backs India's Balochistan stand

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    Bangladesh echoes India's stand over Balochistan. Visiting Bangladesh Information Minister says Pakistan abused human rights in erstwhile East Pakistan as well charges Islamabad of harbouring terrorists.


    Tell tale images of Pakistan's barbaric brutality in Balochistan. Innocent citizens eliminated by the Pak army at the prompting of its masters.

    Balochistan's leaders allege that in the last few decades, Pakistan Army has killed nearly 30,000 Baloch people and over 24,000 have simply disappeared including some prominent regional leaders. It's believed that these people were picked up by Pak Intelligence agency ISI, tortured for information and then killed.

    Pakistan has been carrying out this cycle of repression against Baloch people as they've been struggling for freedom from Pakistan's illegal control.

    And their struggle to free themselves of Pakistan's clutches got a sudden boost when Prime Minister Narendra Modi took up their cause by thanking them during his Independence Day address from the ramparts of the Red Fort.

    Now Bangladesh has come out in support of the Prime Minister's assertions.

    Apart from violation of human rights by Pakistan within its own territory, Bangladesh and India are also at the receiving end of Pak sponsored terror. Both countries agreed that information dissemination is critical to countering such terrorism.

    Balochistan and a part of Kashmir has been under Pakistan's illegitimate control for long. Soon after the 1947 India-Pak partition.

    The Pak army annexed Balochistan on the 26th of March, 1948. Pakistan has been exploiting Balochistan's resources and oppressing its people since then.

    But the efforts of the Baloch people to bring worldwide attention to their plight has now begun to gain ground.

    Voices of protest against Pakistan's occupation have also been gaining strength in PoK and Gilgit.

    http://ddinews.gov.in/Home - Headlines/Pages/bangladeshbaloch.aspx



    Instead of remaining passive and just merely reacting to Pakistani-backed Islamist terrorism in Bangladesh, Dhaka is now starting to go on the offensive.

    I totally support our government's actions regarding all this and championing Baloch human rights.
     
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    Good move and choice for BD.

    BD knows very well how they suffered by the hands of EVIL bloodthirsty Pakjabis and they also know how other parts of Pakistan is suffering the same pain.

    BD gave lot of sacrifices to get themselves free and now its turn for Balochistan and Sindh Nation.

    Slogan is --> AZADI AZADI AZADI from Pakjabis.

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    So now BD openely supports India for Balochistan. What are you going to do? You did a pathetic self goal by openly supporting Terrorist Burhan.You already made UN Designated Terrorists Hafiz and Salla-Ullu-Din as your Foreign and Defense Ministers.

    Balochistan is a DISPUTED Territory which Pak Army occupied by force.

    Balochistan was a free country for more than 200 days until you invaded and occupied.

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    20% population of Pakistan is Shia .......................and they are the victim of wahabi terrorism ...................................we should Involve Iran too ...................

    20% Land & population of Pakistaan should be merged in Iran .

    They are not safe with pakistaani terrorists .................

    & there should be a different country for balochs, sindhis , & pakhtoons .

    terrorist paki panjab should be a worthless land locked territory .

    India should also capture Lahore It should be the Capital of Indian Panjab .

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    Pakistan is a fake nation created for the power lust of Nawabi mentality of those inhuman Wahhabi Muslims. Porkistan became a fake democracy . In its exhibition of cruelty, it kill 3 million Bangladeshis and raped over 2 lakh women. Its aremy has a passion of killing innocent people because they can not fight and win against its main enemy india. It is the duty of whole world to support Baluchistan freedom as it is an occupied country. I hope modi will stand by what he has said and others shall also help him in freedom of Baluchistan.
     
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    On defence dot pk the Jamaatis have gone hysterical, swearing at Hasanul Haq Inu, they've even said nonsense like "he's not even a minister".

    Jamaati nonsense...Hasanul Haq Inu, is the minister of information and quite influential in Bangladeshi decision making, one of the most influential men in the country.

    Though I would have to accept that most Bangladeshis are ignorant/indifferent about the Balochistan issue and there is perhaps a default viewpoint of a Muslim country should not be broken up....none of them are hardcore Pakistan ass-lickers like the Jamaatis of defence dot pk
     
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    OK Clearly all the jamaati trash need to be dropped out of helicopters[​IMG]
     
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    They are a small party with little support but are very cunning and deceitful hence despite their low support they sucked up to powerful outsiders such as the Saudis and Pakistanis who naturally supported them as Jamaatis are their proxies.

    However they are being wiped out now in Bangladesh and Saudi has basically told them to F*** off.

    LOL

    In PDF they squeal and suck up to the biased Paki moderators, but in Bangladesh itself they have very little power and are getting obliterated.
     
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    I think the following should be done.

    1. The suffering of the Baloch should be highlighted frequently on Bangladeshi TV including interviews with people who have suffered at the hands of the Pakistani security forces or pro-Baloch activists abroad.

    Bangladeshi media would probably not be able to access Baloch inside Pakistan but they could at least interview Baloch activists abroad or merely show footage of these activists speaking to Indian or western media.

    2.The suffering of Baloch can be highlighted on social media including for example the Awami League facebook page which has 1.4 million likes and it can be shared by Bangladeshis.

    Those Bangladeshis who are abroad or have friends abroad particularly in the west will see these posts and awareness of the Baloch crisis will increase.

    3. Talk shows can be held on the suffering of the Baloch and how it can be resolved.

    4. Even Jamaat e Islami spokesmen can be interviewed on their views of the suffering of the Baloch and their refusal to speak about the suffering of this particular Muslim community can be highlighted.

    5. Frequent newspaper articles with relevant images.

    6. Prayers in mosques for an end to the suffering of Baloch.


    Defence dot pok: On Defence dot pk, the Jamaatis and razakars there are still maintaining their pro-Pakistan, anti-Baloch position saying Bangladesh should not support the Baloch and ridiculously enough that Balochistan has nothing to do with Bangladesh when some of these same Arab and Pakistani-wannabes will be more than happy to speak about Palestinians, Indian Muslims, Rohingyas but not about Muslims being killed by the same army that murdered their own people.

    However I detect a slight change from a week ago.

    A week ago it was one of absolute shock as if minister Inu had spoken about Venus, rather than a short in-passing comment about human rights in a country that routinely comments on Bangladesh's internal affairs.

    Now there is less shock and an awareness that it is the governments view on this.

    With time the shock will decrease and the awareness that it is the government's position on this will increase. If there is a continued media + social media campaign about this for the next 18 months it will be very difficult for Jamaatis and razakars to continue defending the Pakistani military in Balochistan even to their own Bangladeshi friends.
     
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