Ban on women in Sabarimala temple has to pass Constitution test, says SC

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  1. HariPrasad-1

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    Ban on women in Sabarimala temple has to pass Constitution test, says SC
    While hearing the plea against ban on entry of menstruating women into Kerala's Sabarimala temple, the court said that "gender discrimination in such a matter is unacceptable".
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    By: Express News Service | New Delhi | Updated: April 12, 2016 4:35 am
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    Yielding to a high voltage campaign by activists, the Shani Shingnapur temple trust last week allowed women to enter the sanctum Sanctorum, breaking the tradition followed for several decades. PTI Photo
    The Supreme Court Monday sought to examine previous judgments on entry of women in religious places while underlining that any religious practice banning their entry will have to necessarily pass the test of constitutionality.

    Hearing a plea against restricting women’s entry in Kerala’s Sabarimala temple, a bench led by Justice Dipak Misra questioned the temple’s right in imposing the prohibition on a particular gender.


    “What right does temple have to forbid women from entering any part of temple? Please argue on the bedrock of the Constitution. Every argument has to meet the test of constitutionality,” observed the bench.


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    HariPrasad-1 Senior Member Senior Member

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    We need to tell these idiots judges to stop interfearing into religious matters of Hindu.

    They piss in their pant while stopping even the loud speakers used by Muzzles. FOrget about banning Burkha of wives and Tallak by saying Yallak 3 times. Since we are soft target, they show their power on us.
     
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    saty Tihar Jail Banned

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    Posted this in Temple blast thread but this is relevant here.Mallus deserves this. If you allow women in "Ayyappa deeksha"so-many problems will arise.For example Women must stay with men in forests and through out journey, daily baths,abstain from sex,actually Ayyappa is a bachelor God and so on.Entire HOLY nature of the sabarimala will collapse.What mallus can do?... nothing apart from killing stray-dogs,cows&elephants to satisfy evangelical&jihadi masters.

    Ayyappa devotees goes temple through a filthy mosque .... Guess what mallus say ''lord ayyappa befriended a Muzzie Vavar so they follow that tradition''....... btw Ayyappa who born to Vishnu&Shiva(fusion/mythology) has a muzzie friend ''A BIG COCK&VAVAR story''. Where as Kafir Hindus are not allowed even in muzzie cities of Arabia.:lol:

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    More you submit more you crushed.Secular Hindus never ever learn it.
     
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    Razor CIDs from Tamilnadu Senior Member

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    :lol: The SC and the govt. should pass the test of the constitution.

    As per constituition the govt. is NOT to interfere in religious matters.

    Stupid hypocrites.
     
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    Razor CIDs from Tamilnadu Senior Member

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    Look golti retard, this comment was made my SC; not malayalis, not temple goers.
    Malayalis know very well women can't go there, cause of the forest and extreme mass of people.

    The one who submitted is the shani temple guys. :lol:
     
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    @saty my boy, calm down or you will be sent to Tihar. Keep your rants sensible.

    On topic, SC has gone insane. Has nothing to do but hear PILs on religious matters, that too about random rituals in far corners of India.
     
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    There are various poojas and vrats for different class of people in hinduism. Some vrats can be performed by laddies only. Some by unmarried girls and some by married girls. Pooja of Hanuman , shani etc can be done by gents and that too with bath and some special clothing. It is not at all discrimination against women. The bunch of these idiot judges need to shut their mouth and stay away from religious matter.
     
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    I hope the SC grows some balls and look into constitution while looking into Muslim religious issues. Especially when individual freedom are affected.
    Between I find no problems in women's praying in Sabarimala shrine. I honestly do not believe an God, wont ask his/her devotees, whoever it may be from seeing Him.
     
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    Courts Seem To Be Taking Tough Stand On Hindu Issues

    The Bombay High Court has secured equality for women in the matter of worship at Shani Shingnapur temple, Maharashtra. In its wake, the Supreme Court is girding itself to tame the misogynistic tendencies of the Sabarimala Temple, Kerala.

    Both feminists and courts are fulminating against all religions when it comes to misogynistic practices but swift and strict actions seem to be reserved for Hindu temples. This is bound to sow seeds of resentment on the part of Hindu religious and political outfits that could explode some day into a full blown civil and political crisis.

    Feminists can afford to be sanctimonious but not courts. The rule of law must be applied even-handedly and till such time the skew in law in favour of a particular religion is removed, courts should refrain from interfering in the religious practices of one religion to the exclusion of others.

    The US Congress showed remarkable courage and sagacity in banning bigamy, overcoming shrill and strident protests of the Mormon Church with its dominant presence in the state of Utah. Before ban Mormons were allowed to keep a gargantuan harem of up to 27 wives. Would we dare to take similar action in India? Would we dare to promote a uniform civil code that will be a constitutionally enforceable status from the present wishy-washy directive principles?

    The Supreme Court says that the Constitution is all that matters but it may soon rue its words when religious minorities smugly cite the constitutional provisions on religious minorities. If our Parliament cannot summon such courage and judiciary can only sermonize in lofty verbiage, then the result is that only Hindu religion can be taken liberties with.

    Misogyny practiced in Haji Ali was talked in the same breath with the misogyny practiced in Shani Shignapur when the issue was raging but the court chose to pass orders only against the Hindu shrine whereas it should have passed an order in the larger public interest. Of course there was a legal technicality—the situation at Haji Ali was not before the court.

    In other words, the Bombay High Court was not seized of the misogyny practiced in Haji Ali. But the question is should courts take such a narrow approach in these kind of matters? Even if courts straitjacket such issues having wider ramifications cutting across religions, shouldn’t legal precedent or stare decisis be invoked by the voluble group of feminists and civil activists?

    The blunt truth is Islam enforces its religious edicts with a firm hand often described as fatwa. Even if a court explicitly ends the alleged misogyny in Haji Ali or indeed in any other so-called minority shrine or religious place, a fatwa would follow and the voice of sanity would be muted or stilled. What is more, being by and large a monolithic religion, despite the Sunni-Shia divide, the religious edicts and strictures beget worshipful compliance and even women in whose favour the court might have spoken up would look askance at such a judgement. Indeed the moot question is whether the forces who organized the female movement against the invidious gender practice in Shani Shingnapur would dare to similarly organize a similar movement against minority religious practices.

    The courts may not be hearing cross sections of Hindu females a large section of whom might as a matter of faith subscribe to the seemingly misogynistic practices. For example, the age-old bar on female entry into Sabarimala Temple recently found taunting and irreverent opposition with phrases like happy to bleed but what is not sufficiently publicized or brought to light is that many Keralite women have implicit faith in the ban. Faith and rationality do not go hand in hand.

    Hinduism is loosely banded together and liberal with several sects and sub-sects. This has come as an alibi for not following the edicts of Shankaracharyas, Namboodhris and Vaishnavite seers. It is this disparity and looseness that has subjected Hinduism to being lectured at by all and sundry including the license to paint Goddess Saraswati in nude in the name of artistic freedom.
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    from today men and women will have same toilets, same type of cloths.. Even God will create women like men ..
    equality honi chaiye bhai...

    Men should be dosed with capsules so that they get periods .. and women should have high testesterones

    without that there will be no equality. And why only man should have dicks .. women too .. this is not justice.
     
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    When it comes to "EQUALITY" they cry of having separate seats in buses and even train bogies.

    Seems like some Female Chauvinists needs to justify why they are like that.

    It seems less with so called religion/pooja "equal rights" but more about blind equality in just everything.They just need to know where there is "unequality" and these Female Chauvinists would reach there and do drama.

    I even suspect if some of these Female Chauvinist are actually females.... see below for example... :pound:


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    Supreme Court support same gotra marriage, nothing more to say. If they won't learn with words, then they will find many Bhagat & Jarnail Singh.
     
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    Unnecessarily courts are interfering in traditions of a religion. Hindu temples are not granting rights to give talak verbally, cut the body parts, claim people as born sinners.

    Atleast temple should have kept a notice board that

    'its a tradition women not to enter senieswar temple, but its up to there conscience to respect a tradition of age old temple.'

    That would have helped, all this news runned campaigns...
     
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    @raja696 tell supreme court, their constitution doesn’t apply in Sri Anandpur Sahib & to try & enforce it.

    It's come to that,
     
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    In the same line, SC should allow women to enter into mosques and to do namaz along with men.

    It is secular country after all. Everyone should be treated equally.
     
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    No straight-minded beautiful/attractive woman ever takes part in any stupid feminist activities like slogan-shouting. I'm not counting all the actresses & celebs who drop a word or two in support of feminism, they say it just for sake of saying.

    Only the fat, ugly bitches who would never get a real man in their life go the hardcore feminist way. Because a beautiful female, or atleast a proper woman, knows that in just being herself, she can get pretty much any thing she wants.

    You all should follow the Youtube channel called Red Pill Philosophy. That guy's got some good content and presents an interesting perspective on this matter.
     
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    rock127 Maulana Rockullah Senior Member

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    These "reforms" and "equality" is NOT for SECULAR people, it's just for Hindus and other Non-Seculars.

    Let's see when these UGLY Female Chauvinists make their forcible way into Hajji Ali or anywhere where they are not allowed by SECULAR people.

    Insecure women do not indulge in the kind of crap which these Female Chauvinists are doing ie. forcing way to some forbidden place etc.
     
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