Balochistan celebrates India's victory over Pakistan in world cup cricket

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  1. ganesh177

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    Balochistan celebrates India's victory over Pakistan in world cup cricket


    KHUZDAR, Occupied Balochistan: Baloch people in many towns and cities across Occupied Balochistan celebrated the victory of India over Pakistan in the world cup semifinals in Mohali Wednesday.A traditional dhol cha'ap or music and dance was spontaneously organized in Khuzdar, which is regarded as the political and cultural center of Balochistan, according to Bramsh news. Vociferous slogans were chanted against Pakistan, the report said.


    A second cultural town, Sibi also presented the look of a festive city and firing in the air continued till late in the night. Such firing is common pratice to express public joy in many parts of southwest Asia.


    Jubiliant crowds also took to the streets in the coastal Balochistan cities of Turbat and Panjgur.


    The rulers in Islamabad appear to have abdicated their stranglehold over Balochistan by committing crimes against humanity against the local Baloch population. Since July last year, as many as 130 political and civil rights activists were forcibly disappeared, tortured and subsequently killed execution-style by the Pakistani occupation forces that include the Frontier Corps, Military Intelligence and infamous Inter-Services Intelligence.


    According to Imtiaz Baloch, a leader of the premier Baloch Human Rights Council of Canada, the mother of a young Baloch, who was killed and dumped by the Pakistani security forces, smiled for the first time in six months when she was informed that India had won the cricket semi-final.


    Armin Baloch, who is from Balochistan, declared “Millions of congrats to India and the Indian cricket team for their victory against Pakistan (the country who have terrorised millions of innocent and is responsible of genocide of Balochs, Afghans, Kashmiris and Bengalis). We the Baloch people warmly congrat India for their victory against tyrant terrorist state.”


    Owaisy Jan Baloch commented, “They deserve it. This is the time to be more confident and learn something from the victory of our close friend, India.”



    http://www.examiner.com/foreign-pol...dia-s-victory-over-pakistan-world-cup-cricket
    http://article.wn.com/view/2011/03/3...stan_in_world/
     
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    That is very unexpected to say the least. India shouldn't respond, else it will buy us trouble with Pak dialogue.

    Otherwise, Baloachistan is India's "Joker" card. Pakistan lacks to moral right to question how India treats its citizens in Kashmir as long as it illtreats Balochis.
     
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    Good for Pakistan.

    No wonder Pakistan is keen to talk about Balochistan with India.
     
  5. The Messiah

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    This news pleases me.
     
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    Problem with Baluchistan movement (unlike Bangladesh) is that number of Balochis are too less. Such movements will be crushed by the State
     
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    It's not the population LB, it's the zealous effort that is put into. :)
     
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    From the Musharraf-era. No doubt it has gotten worse now:

     
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    Jai Balochistan! O ye Balochistanis, rise up against the tyranny of your Pakistani state suppressors and crush them! For today, you have nought but received nothing from the wicked centre.


    “If by the mere force of numbers a majority should deprive a minority of any clearly written constitutional right, it might in a moral point of view, justify revolution”.

    - Abraham Lincoln


    I say this not because I am an Indian and want to see Pakistan disemembered. I will admit that when I first started reading about the Baloch issue, my interest was purely self-national. But a period of concerted study, has led me to believe that the right of self-determination for the Balochis is warranted and just. India must take a stand on the Baloch issue.
     
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    Time to repeat 1971:becky::becky::becky::becky:
     
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    Don't understand why India is so sheepish in supporting the Baloch Movement while watching Pakistan playing Games in Kashmir, the Pakistanis should be told in plane words "If you ever dare do anything with Kashmir, You'll never know when Balochistan was seperated just like 1971" and this time whole PA will have to surrender.

    India must make it clear and take a stand on this issue.
     
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    Guess we're on it already.


    'India only gives moral support to Balochistan'

    24 August 2009


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    Dr Jumma Khan Marri is a Baloch political leader and son of the legendary Baloch leader Mir Hazar Khan Marri who led the Baloch freedom struggle in the 1970s and 1980s.


    He articulates the struggle in an interview with rediff.com's Sheela Bhatt in the following:


    What is your response to the mention of Balochistan in the India-Pakistan joint statement issued in Egypt?

    Pakistan has always used the Baloch issue as a pretext to prove to the world that it is a victim of terrorism though in fact it exports terrorism. The Indian involvement in Balochistan has never been beyond moral support.

    The joint statement cuts two ways -- on one hand it is good that the Baloch issue was internationalised on the other it can be detrimental to Baloch interest as Pakistan is using it as a stick to beat the Baloch freedom struggle by presenting that it being supported by India.


    What are the real threats to Balochistan?

    The real threats to Balochistan in concrete terms come from the States of Pakistan and Iran because they are physically occupying Balochistan. These States are repressive, intransigent and colonialist. It is for this reason that there is armed resistance in Balochistan.

    Another tangible threat is the government-sponsored Talibanisation which is being implemented to oppose the nationalists.

    There is danger that powers like the US and Russia, in pursuit of their national interests, may either help to crush or if it suits them may promote the national struggle and attempt to influence it.

    Balochistan also faces a credible threat from ultra-nationalists in Afghanistan who dream of a 'Greater Afghanistan' and eye a large portion of Balochistan territory on flimsy historical evidence.

    The greatest threat to Balochistan is, however, internal and that is the disunity among the Baloch themselves.


    Are you worried about the Talibanisation of some areas of Balochistan? How is your party engaged in thwarting it?

    This is very serious matter which concerns not only Balochistan but the entire world community. Your asking this question is proof of that concern.

    In that regard I quote Sanaullah Baloch who disclosed that the supporters of the Taliban have captured land worth Rs 2 billion in the eastern and western parts of Quetta with the covert support of the 'establishment' in order to undermine the Baloch nationalist movement and promote Talibanisation in Balochistan.

    Sana Baloch believes that the Taliban and their supporters are consolidating their grip. Several parts of the Baluchistan's capital have become 'no-go areas' where the Taliban and their supporters have consolidated their position.

    American officials believe that Taliban leaders are freely operating in and around Quetta and are actively involved in the unrest in southern Afghanistan.

    The Baloch are secular people and do not take religion as an issue to fight for, we believe religion must be a personal matter between a believer and god. My organisation along with all other Baloch parties and organisations are doing whatever possible to counteract these jihadi fanatics.


    What is your response to Pakistan's allegation that India is engaged in covert activity in Balochistan from its consulate in Kandahar?

    These are old, baseless allegations. The consulate is well inside Afghan territory and far away from the hot spots in Balochistan.

    To the best of my knowledge the consulate in Kandahar has nothing to do with the resentment and resistance that the Pakistani State faces in Balochistan.

    Moreover, the borders are controlled by the Pakistani forces and if in fact help is coming through than it is their ineptitude which is to blame.


    Don't you think any kind of support from India will also affect India's relations with Iran?

    Well, first let that long-awaited support come than we can assess the negative relations. If India decides to help the Baloch freedom struggle it will certainly be resented by Iran. When you do a good deed it at times irks quite a few and that shouldn't become a reason for not doing a good deed.


    What is the human development index of Baluchistani society? Please give us some accurate figures.

    To present the grim reality of economic deprivation and poverty I quote experts who have intimate knowledge of the conditions there. Economist Dr Kaiser Bengali says, 'An overview of the development scene in Balochistan is discomforting and the extent of relative deprivation in the province is appalling. Eighteen out of the 20 most infrastructure-deprived districts in Pakistan are in Balochistan.'

    'The percentage of districts that are classified as high deprivation stands as follows: 29 per cent in Punjab [ Images ], 50 per cent in Sindh, 62 per cent in the NWFP, and 92 per cent in Balochistan.'

    'If Quetta and Ziarat are excluded, all of Balochistan falls into the high deprivation category. And Quetta's ranking would fall if the cantonment is excluded from the analysis.'

    'The percentage of population living in a high degree of deprivation stands at 25 per cent in Punjab, 23 per cent in urban Sindh, 49 per cent in rural Sindh, 51 per cent in the NWFP, and 88 per cent in Balochistan.'

    'Measured in terms of poverty, the percentage of population living below the poverty line stands at 26 per cent in Punjab, 38 per cent in rural Sindh, 27 per cent in urban Sindh, 29 per cent in the NWFP, and 48 per cent in Balochistan.'

    Only 20 per cent of its people have access to safe drinking water compared to 86 per cent in the rest of Pakistan. Village electrification is only 25 per cent compared to 75 per cent in the rest of the country. The situation of basic amenities and access to education is also far below the ratio of other provinces.

    Over 50 per cent its population subsists below the poverty line.

    A horrific picture emerges if one surveys the maternal mortality rate which is 650 per 100,000 births in Balochistan while it is 281in Karachi. This is double the national average. Infant mortality in Balochistan is 158 deaths per 1,000 live births.

    Even the Democratic Republic of Congo's average of 126 is lower while Pakistan's national average of 70 is less than half.

    The figures in education are equally depressing, over three-fourths of women and two-thirds of population above ten are illiterate.

    The conditions in affected Marri-Bugti areas and among the Internally Displaced Persons are much worse. Take the example of Bugti area. Though gas was discovered in Sui in 1951 and meets approximately 45 per cent of the country's total gas production and is worth Rs 85 billion annually what Dera Bugti receives in return for the wealth it generates is evident from the UNDP Human Development Report 2003, which ranked Dera Bugti last among the 91 districts of the country on the Human Development Index.

    This eye-opening report reveals that among the top 31 districts on the HDI only three belonged to Balochistan whereas the province shared 12 among the lowest 30 districts on the HDI.


    What is the present political situation within Balochistan?

    The present situation was perspicaciously summed up in an interview to a television channel, ironically by the former Balochistan inspector general Asif Nawaz Warraich. He said, 'There is political insurgency in the province'.

    This widespread and protracted upheaval, political insurgency, cannot be brushed aside as 'foreign inspired'. It mirrors the intensity and scale of the resentment and desperation felt by the people at the existing state of affairs and underlines their wish for a quick radical change.

    The situation in Balochistan has deteriorated rapidly since the brutal murders of Baloch National Movement chairman Ghulam Mohammad Baloch, Lala Muneer Baloch and Sher Mohammad Baloch of the Baloch Republican Party in Turbat.

    Media reports indicate that resentment has reached an unprecedented level and on May 9 Baloch separatists ransacked an English-medium private school in Quetta for performing the national anthem and hoisting the national flag.

    A teacher was beaten up and the school administration warned that they would not hesitate to kill students and teachers if this practice is not stopped.

    In April, Balochistan Governor Zulfiqar Ali Magsi lamented that, 'Although I am a representative of the centre I was never taken into confidence by Islamabad [ Images ] on the Balochistan issue'. Former Balochistan chief minister Jam Yusuf's gripe that the discretionary funds of the Punjab CM were much higher than Balochistan's development budget proves the point.

    Chief Minister Nawab Raisani recently proposed that all the federating units should be given provincial autonomy on the basis of a 1940 resolution and they should have control on their natural and other resources.

    Balochistan Assembly Speaker Aslam Bhootani said in an interview that 'the trust deficit between the Baloch leadership and Islamabad was a major impediment to resolving the Balochistan issue'. He also said 'there was a perception in Balochistan that the Frontier Corps was running a parallel government in the province'.

    If the speaker says that there is perception that the Frontier Corps is running a parallel government then the problem is acute.

    The attitudes and resolve have been hardened and strengthened by the continuous and arrogant disregard of the Balochs's right over their political future and resources.

    All the coalition parties in the provincial government want a piece from the pie. They diligently rubber-stamp all directives of the centre to avoid endangering their lucrative perks and businesses.

    Regrettably, the cabinets and assemblies of the past have also been equally ineffective and docile. They have neither solved the issue of 'missing persons' nor put an end to military operations; target killings of Baloch leaders as in Turbat and 'forced disappearances' continue.

    Their failures have disillusioned the people entirely who are also rapidly losing faith in the political process.


    How can the people of India help you when they are tackling the issue of Jammu & Kashmir?

    India needs to solve the Kashmir issue sooner rather than later because not all those opposing India in Kashmir are Pakistani agents. There have been mistakes which need to be recognised and rectified.

    Helping the Baloch people cannot and should not be hampered by the issue of Jammu and Kashmir because Indian resources are neither few nor small and the help can be moral, political and financial.

    Physical involvement is not only improbable, but would not be welcomed by the Baloch people.


    http://news.rediff.com/interview/2009/aug/24/india-only-gives-moral-support-to-balochistan.htm
     
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    We did stick a limb out to help Bangladesh and if recent cricket games were anything to go by, there was immense support and cheering for Pakistan when they played there. Assuming that many of them were Bihari-Pakistanis stranded in Bangladesh, since their country refused to take them in, it cannot account for the overwhelming support they got. It seems that many Bangladeshis have forgotten or chosen to ignore the lessons of the past. How do we know not to expect the same with Baluchistan?
     
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    Not to sour the pudding but here's a little something about ponces in our own backyard.

    If someone derives a sort of perverse pleasure in the misery of these tools, does that make him/her a sadist?

    And the Kashmiris whine that Indians give a toss about them. Wonder why
     
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    I don't like mixing up politics with circket. If Balochis want to support India in cricket instead of Pakistan that is fine. But to bring about statements like "We the Baloch people warmly congrat India for their victory against tyrant terrorist state" is a bit over the top
     
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    This statement is little strange, a tweet:

    http://twitter.com/mustikhan

    Pakistanis believe they are Muslims first; Baloch believe they are Baloch first; how can the two be one nation?


    Balochistan is another genocide getting carried by PA, no wonder Balochis hate pakistanis
     
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    I agree. But people find too many ways to be (over) sensitive and equally sensitise things around.
    Cricket was just an excuse to vent the anger (which may be justified in its own place, but not with Cricket).
     
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    It's only a matter of time before 1971 is repeated (not necessarily by Indian intervention though).

    Pakistanis haven't learned anything in the past 40 years.
     

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