BAE submits quotes for new Indian Hawk deal to equip Surya Kiran display team

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    Twinblade your avatars are hilarious.
     
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    Same aircraft as used by RAF Red Arrows?
     
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    Re: BAE submits quotes for new Indian Hawk deal to equip Surya Kiran d

    Indian MoD Source: Purchase of 20 Hawk Trainers On Track Despite Lost File

    NEW DELHI — An order for 20 Hawk advanced jet trainers for the Indian Air Force worth $333 million has been delayed as the file detailing the purchase has been misplaced, an Indian Defence Ministry source said. No MoD official would confirm or deny the misplacing of the Hawk file, but the MoD source said the delay is only “temporary” as related files on the purchase are being obtained from state-owned Hindustan Aeronautics Ltd. (HAL). The aircraft are being produced by HAL under license from BAE Systems. The deal possibly could be signed in the next month, added the source, but would not commit to a time frame. MoD cleared the purchase of 20 Hawk trainers in 2010 and was processing the case for final clearance by the Cabinet Committee on Security, the highest body that oversees weapon purchases, when it was discovered the file could not be found, added the source. This latest batch of 20 Hawk trainers was to be used by the Air Force’s aerobatic team. India has contracted 123 Hawks, with the first order of 66 placed in 2004 by the previous National Democratic Alliance government. The second order for the purchase of 57 Hawk trainers was placed in July 2010. The Indian government signed a $ 1.7 billion contract with BAE in 2004 under which 66 Hawks were to be acquired. Out of that total order, 24 have been procured from BAE in fly-away condition and the remaining 42 are to be assembled and license produced at HAL.
    Indian MoD Source: Purchase of 20 Hawk Trainers On Track Despite Lost File | Defense News | defensenews.com
     
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    Re: BAE submits quotes for new Indian Hawk deal to equip Surya Kiran d

    Why Should We not Equip Suryia Kiran With Tejas??
     
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    Re: BAE submits quotes for new Indian Hawk deal to equip Surya Kiran d

    Defence Ministry issues fresh tender for 20 Hawk aircraft

    NEW DELHI: The Defence Ministry has issued a fresh tender for buying 20 Hawk trainer aircraft for around Rs 2,000 crore after the original file related to the procurement went missing leading to delays in the acquisition process. A fresh Request for Proposal (RFP) has been issued to the state-owned HAL for procuring 20 additional Hawk Advanced Jet Trainer aircraft for Air Force's Surya Kiran Aerobatic Team (SKAT), Defence Ministry sources said here. The original file related to the tender had gone missing and the process had to be restarted by the Government, they said. The defence ministry has taken a serious view of the lapses on part of the officials handling the file and an inquiry has been ordered, officials said. Disciplinary proceedings would be initiated against officials who are found responsible for the lapses, they said. India has, so far, placed orders for 123 Hawks with the British BAE Systems in two phases. The first order for 66 aircraft was placed by India in 2004, of which more than 40 have already arrived. The second order for 57 aircraft was placed in June last year.
    Defence Ministry issues fresh tender for 20 Hawk aircraft - The Economic Times
     
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    Re: BAE submits quotes for new Indian Hawk deal to equip Surya Kiran d

    Why not go for SU-30MKi or Mig-29 for display teams? any reason why we stick to that subsonic plain vanilla thing.
     
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    Because it is cheaper to fly a trainer.
     
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    Why not scrap/delay the acrobatics team and use the money to buy indigenous thermal imagers for our soldiers fighting on the borders who need such equipment urgently. Lets stop enriching corrupt organisations which create fake demand for useless, non-essential and non-urgent products. When LCA or IJT obtain FOC then we can use them for display team.
     
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    Re: BAE submits quotes for new Indian Hawk deal to equip Surya Kiran d

    Rather they should use ijt for aerobatic display team which will show India's capability in the foreign skies. This will further help in producing good number of export order for ijt
     
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    Re: BAE submits quotes for new Indian Hawk deal to equip Surya Kiran d

    People love spectacle and acrobatics by planes is a hilarious thing to watch.

    Nothing wrong in having an acrobatics team. Hawk is a simple aircraft which is easier to maintain compared to LCA or Mig-29. I think it is fine to use it.

    IJT is not certified to fly in user hands. It is under development.

    I think there is nothing wrong in inducting Hawk for this purpose. HAL IJT will also be inducted.

    To add: The additional Hawk can also be used for training, if needed.
     
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    Re: BAE submits quotes for new Indian Hawk deal to equip Surya Kiran d

    BAE Systems begins negotiations for 20 more Hawks

    February 09, 2015: BAE Systems, now comfortably in the Indian fixed wing space with its Hawk advanced jet trainer, has begun negotiations with HAL to transfer equipment to support the license build of 20 more Hawks for the IAF's erstwhile Surya Kiran aerobatics team. The Hawk fleet will make the revived aerobatics team only the second team in the world after the RAF Red Arrows to operate a nine Hawk formation routine. With its fixed wing business on steady course, BAE Systems will be showcasing a slew of equipment at Aero India 2015 at the helicopter fleets of the Indian armed forces. Equipment on display at the show will include S3000 and Mission Adaptable Crew Seats (MACS), the Striker helmet-mounted display (HMD), in service on the Eurofighter Typhoon. According to the company, "Striker provides comfort, protection, and helmet stability for both fixed- and rotary-wing platforms such as the Light Utility Helicopter (LUH), Apache and the Light Combat Helicopter (LCH)." Also debuting this year at the show will be BAE's Advanced Precision Kill Weapon System (APKWS™) rocket, described as a cost-effective solution that leverages the military’s existing infrastructure and inventory, turning a standard unguided 2.75-inch (70 millimeter) rocket into a precision laser-guided rocket. The weapon may be aimed at India's attack helicopter fleet inventories.
    BAE Systems begins negotiations for 20 more Hawks - SP’s Exculsive
     
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    Re: BAE submits quotes for new Indian Hawk deal to equip Surya Kiran d

    After that absurd situation where they lost the papers on this deal it needs to start moving! It is tragic the Surya Kiran team has been out of action for this long.....
     

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