‘Why should Manipur remain in India?’ - Times of India

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    Tarun Vijay, 17 May 2010, 09:47 PM IST
    Kamminlung Singson was sitting next to me on a four-hour hopping flight from Delhi to Imphal. He had one year of training in a short-term programme of Indian Army and was on his way back home to Churachandpur, about 60km from Imphal. He was supposed to travel by train up to Guwahati and then take a bus, but the highways to his hometown, NH 39 and NH 53, had been blocked by Naga rebels for almost 30 days at that time, so he had to somehow arrange for an air ticket. Not many Manipuris can afford an air ticket, he said sadly.

    He was casual, in a cotton bermuda with blue strips and a brown, wrinkled T-shirt. I looked at his footwear - he was wearing coloured slippers. He was looking out of the scratched window pane when the plane took off. We started chatting.

    How’s is the situation, I asked?

    Very bad. UGs are ruling and people are suffering. Imphal to Churachand Pur ticket has gone up to Rs 150 per person, which was just 40 rupees a few months back, he said.

    UGs? Who are they? Underground rebels, he grinned at my ignorance. There is a severe food scarcity and no petrol or diesel is available. One has to be in a queue for one or two days to get 20 or 40 litres of oil. He stared at me as if asking who the hell you are so oblivious of the facts that are tearing apart the lives of Manipuris.

    I know some of it, I said sheepishly, hence on my way to Imphal. OK, now that you have taken an armed training with the Army, would you be serving the Indian forces or join the other side? I collected myself and asked.

    It was a mischievous question, just to poke him and get him speaking on his motherland. He opened up.

    I will fight for India, that’s my motherland. But not many in my village think so. They feel India doesn’t care for them. He showed me a news clipping from a south-based daily which made horrendous reading - it was about the death of a Manipuri woman due to starvation. I didn’t find it mentioned in any other newspaper or channel.

    The correspondent of the newspaper Iboyaima Laithangbam had filed an Imphal-datelined report:

    IMPHAL: Takhellambam Komberei (70), a diabetic, died of starvation and lack of Medicare owing to the ongoing protest by tribal students in Manipur. While going to her home at Jiribam from here on May 5, the bus in which she was travelling was stranded on Highway 53 as a result of economic blockade. She and other passengers managed to buy rice at an exorbitant price of Rs 200 a kg from the nearby village. But soon nothing was available in the village market and they started eating roots, herbs and green bananas found on the mountain slopes. The old woman then started trekking up, but collapsed and died by the roadside.( http://www.hindu.com/2010/05/13/stories/2010051358060900.htm)

    Why was Takhellambam Komberei’s death, a painful end, ignored by a Muthalik-obsessed media? A Mulayam prank or a Lalu joke and statue devis and the Hindu terror talk to please the Arab variety of secularism overwhelms the media, but nothing on the pains and anguish of those who are living under a constant threat from anti-national ultras, have yet to see a railway station after six decades of independence, bad roads, almost negligible infrastructure, 38 insurgent terror groups always breathing down their necks to extort money and yet proud to be an Indian?

    Kamminlung tried to be as nice as possible 30,000 feet above the ground level. But I could see it was difficult to control emotions for him.

    How many Indians would be caring for Manipur or Arunachal or Nagaland, inspite of all those patriotic songs? How many of us would be able to tell what kind of name a Naga, a Mizo or a Manipuri love to wear? Or distinguish their faces and not to call them all as ‘chinkies’?

    How many of our elitist or government schools tell the children about India beyond Kolkata and the culture, names, social dynamics and problems of our border region and northeast in particular?

    How many newspapers from mainland India sent their correspondents to report what’s happening to a people who have been cut off from the rest of India, except through the air route, for the last one month? It’s our hypocrisy and a sham nationalism that makes distant areas like Manipur feel distanced from our hearts too.

    Manipur faces a crisis that’s communal in its colour and anti-national in its import.

    Insurgents, blatantly anti-Indian, control the social and political life. They work on unhindered communal hatred. In Kashmir, Hindus were driven out by Islamist jihadis and nothing happened? In Nagaland and Manipur it’s the Christian and jihadi insurgents stifling the Hindu masses and their voices. The real fight is to get maximum number of non-Christians either converted or annihilated. It’s as simple as that. It’s a foreign-aided political colonialism in the garb of religious fervor.

    Manipur is on their target for its Vaishnav traditions. And how? The China-fixed insurgent group Peoples’ Liberation Army (PLA) has given notices to all non-Manipuri Hindus to leave the state by May 31. Its slogan is – unless they sever all ties with “Hindus, Hindi and Hindi speaking people’’ their target to have an independent Manipur can’t be achieved. The best protection for a non-Manipuri resident is to display Islamic half-skull cap, because none of the Muslims have ever been targeted or asked to leave, no matter which state they come from. Thousands of Bangladeshi infiltrators have entered Manipur, but these so-called puritan rebel terrorist groups, one of them an Islamic one Peoples’ United Liberation Front, having its headquarters in Hebron, Nagaland, with NSCN-IM have kept mum about them.

    The entire north east is in the grip of an unprecedented wave of Christianization with the help of foreign money. Recently on May 5, a huge Jesus statue was unveiled in Arunachal Pradesh said to be the tallest in Asia, in a region where Christian population is less than 5%. But still Kohima can’t have a Gandhi statue as the NSCN opposes any Indian icons in their region. So is true about Manipur where under threats from insurgents, neither can the national anthem be sung in schools nor can it be published in school textbooks. Even Republic and Independence Day celebrations are held only in government offices under tight security and wrapped up in minimum possible time. No school or private institution is allowed to have a function on such occasions leave aside hoisting the tricolor. The government employees, traders and politicians have to pay a part of their income to insurgents as a routine manner. Even the government contract funds must be shared with them and almost 20% of each such contract is distributed in cash to various anti-national outfits. What a joke of governance: terror groups are sustained on state funds!

    Surely, there is an answer to ‘why Manipur should remain in India’- why shouldn’t it? Manipur is quintessentially India and India is incomplete without its hoary Radha Krishna traditions, tribal richness and Meitei culture. But the inconvenient situation demands self-introspection as an Indian people and state.

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    Though i agree with most of what he says about Manipur being neglected, I don't like the fact that he's trying to communalise the entire issue by talking about Christians and "Muslim Jihadis" and talking about the sufferings of Hindus by the non-Hindus. I mean come on...Muslims and Christians in this country have suffered quite a lot, many a times at the hands of Hindu extremists.

    Then again, What else can be expected of an RSS-follower like Tarun Vijay?
     
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    Basically the separatists have a distorted sense of history and erroneous beliefs. They think they were distinct from India ergo they are a separate "nation". The need of the hour is education and proper dissemination of actual history.

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    The need of the hour is moving the security forces out of the state, bringing actual democratic institutions, scrapping draconian laws and development.
     
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    @mehwish92^^^So where is the balance in your assertion here? Minorities becoming majority in a particular demography doest have right to justify discrimination they are doing on now minority cause they were doing the same before (only claimed so far not proved) when were in majority.

    When a minority can influence the constitution for last 60 years by many means then so called majority has right to outcry their concerns by all means with a same tone.
     
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    For All these 6 decades northeast india has been given step-motherly treatment by the power dispensation in New delhi.Nehru was more worried about the plain of north india then the north east.Even today ask about the idea of india to people in north they would say its north and northwest india.the psychology behind this is for centuries plains of north were attacked by foreigners coming across from the northwest.
     
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    but the fact is that rest of india is so disconnected from north east. their culture is quite different from rest of indian culture in many ways. Also keep in mind that Manipur was never really a part of any Indian empire (as far as i know). It was the british who brought it into the Indian dominion. But none of that matters anyway. Manipur is a part of India now. But we must start to treat Manipuris like Indians. Indian textbooks say very little about north-east india and its inhabitants - as if they did not contribute anything to indian culture. As a result Indians treat North-easterners like foreigners. India needs to do more to connect north east with rest of india and do more to develop the region.

    i myself know little about northeast india so forgive me if i said anything wrong.
     
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    Have you noticed many people in our sorroundings blatantly term people from North-East or even from Darjeeling as Chinese. Many people do not even know that some Indians too (from N-E) have mongoloid features.........
     
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    thats not what i was trying to say. from tarun's post, it seems like he likes to pretend hindu extremism does not exist. point number one.

    point number two, it seems (according to how i interpret it) like he's trying to blame the separatist movement (at least partly) on the fact that there is massive christianization going on in manipur. Thats like saying that you can only be an indian patriot if you are Hindu. I dont think that is the problem at all. It has more to do with the lack of development.
     
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    Mehwish,
    Its depends on how one look at the idea of india.For that matter when india was constituted was it the present day india wihch was made by the efforts of sardar pale or was it the india which was made by british or for that matters mughals or the cholas or the guptas or the mauryas.Is it the physical boundaries which ever defind the idea of india or is it the cultural identity.if its the physical boundries then there was never such a place called india.coz indian boundaries kept on changing over time centuries and who ever was the bigger bull in south asia was constituted its name with local identity lke the nanda of magdha kindom before mauryas came into being.....


    Thats true northeast was always given the step-motherly treatment but its also true that once bought into the peoples mind things do change in india.We saw that happening in case of Tawang last year when it was in news for the whole of 2 months and we have seen people as deep as from south visiting that place.we also saw that when the google map mistake was projected in media indian suddenly got woke up to its neglect and becoming conscious of its boundaries.Tawang a sleepy town saw record visitors after that s the result of people's consciousness of indian boundaries.As you yourself say that you 've little knowledge about northeast ..same was the case with the tawang last year but then once people wake up,it sure comes into their conciousness.It just that Indians are to be reminded just like hanuman was reminded of his powers by jambvant.;-)
     
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    this is not case of but communalism ,but terrorist are using such tactic to throw out india supporting peoples. we should blame nehru for their condition ,but all politicians are like nehru , funds are coming from nehru mehwish92 as tarun is bringing the facts before us .Our innocent jawans are paying for it like in assam due to these nehruites.
     
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    till 1990s all people from south were known as madrasi north and people from north india were known as hindi wala to southerners.but with the economic migration north-south consciousness has somewhat reduced you can see that effect in south movie song which freely use hindi words these days along with in their songs...what india need s is economic migration and integration which to great extent reduces the mis-information about other people/culture.today indias economic integration is very uneven.it has to be equal in all 4 directions of the country.thats the best way to spread the idea of india or indian-ness.If people remain like frog in well then only such situations arises as mehwish says not many indians know about northeast
     
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    Which democratic institution?
    India suddenly has tilted towards more capitalist politics and has jettisoned its socialist reformist ideology. The corrupt politician is winning a vote on socialist slogans but implicating capitalist principles. Manipur situation has many similarities with current Maoist problem. The only reform is happening to families, touts and well wishers of politicians. The way both side of politics has shown musical chair show in Jarkhand at times when the whole state is struggling is one good example to observe what they are up to.

    The stubborn insensitive state machinery is only interested in garbing or ruling the land. At this very information age every body seek equality but democratic institutions unaware of the information influx to the minds of masses, are busy dictating the same way they were doing post independence.

    Our pan capitalist approach has made people to pay heavily for what ever reforms this govt. has done so far in more developed area and same is expected from these neglected areas where bureaucracy is dictating the terms heavily. India can not treat all different demography with same policy. Our idiopathic allergy to word 'socialism' has done this damage, we could have find the balance between both socialist and capitalist reforms to reduce this inequality.

    There is a contradiction, when an Indian with centuries old mentality is asked to change the way he thinks for sake of changing India into either China or USA. We have to work hard to work out that balance ASAP by any mean rather trusting on scandalous democracy for the time being.
     
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    There was a report on one of the news channels 2 days ago, that rice is selling for close to Rs 100 per kilo. Imagine if that was the case in Delhi or mumbai, our 'National' media would go into hyperdrive, but since this is happening in NE, it barely makes news. It's either mentioned as a pssing news or sometimes shown only in news-tickers.

    Where is the outrage that an entire state is being starved by one single group?

    I wish our media would show atleast a fraction of the outrage they showed when Pakistanis were denied IPL spot. Remember the hoopla surrounding that, it was almost like the sky has fallen, but today there is nothing.
     
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    Manipur's or for that matter most of the seven sister's states is multi-pronged....communal,,ethnic problem between manipuri and nagas, Bangladeshi illeagal migration(most of the states in northeast which shares borders with suffers from it), Long periods of millitancy and rule under arm.Chinese support to local militant groups.ISI support to Bangladeshi terror groups and ofcourse neglect by delhi for long.
     
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    negelct is what leads to a vaccuum which can be filled by our enemies (i.e. ISI). Has the China hand ever been proven in supporting militancy in NE India, or is it just a suspicion? One hears the same allegation when it comes to Maoists, but the Indian gov't denies that.

    Before blaming the ISI or China, we must blame ourselves, for it is us who are giving them a chance to foment problems in our lands.
     
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    Sorry I wasn't posting in context to the article but nitpicking one of your lines. However you have cleared it very well but the question is why their should be a black mail to a such extent that the geographic integrity of India has to be challenged ultimately by any majority (most of the time by non Hindu majority to be blunt,[prove me wrong]).

    There is extreme in our selfish political decision making, one is we want not to address (prolong) the problem(Kashmir, naxalism) and second we are acting only at times when we have to curb such blackmail by unleashing dirty, discriminating power (Punjab).
    A democratic institution could have solved those issues with a balanced approach and had punished both minority or majority threatening its integrity promptly to set an example for these present threats. But unfortunately we have not set any example for others to trust in democratic institution's ideal decision making. Our So called democratic institutions are functional in good times or for to claim credit but not when challenged to solve, the way it should be.
     
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    problim lies with in but to solve problem you have to take action on both at internal and external fronts.BTW china's hand has been well documented.Last i heared about the ULFA chief's secret visits to china and the chitagong arms shipment case which were actually meant for north east group.so discounting external factors gonna harm india only and no indians are not paronoid about china or pakistan when they find foreign hand in northeast militancy.

    If indians are paranoid then sure 26/11 was false flag by RAW mossad and cia to blame pakistan....coz main conspirator headely is usa citizen=xD
     
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    manipur should remain in india for only reason other states are in indian union. why such questions like--- should manipur remain in india? or is it the time that kashmir should be freedom from india? are asked in india...if manipur and kashmir can be secede from india then why not other states too????why indian media is so immature and irresponsible to ask such a rhetoric questions.if they want to raise issues raise it in proper ambit of idea of indian union without feeding to the secessionist.With 90% of the time media busy in bollywood and cricket glitz that suddenly they wake up one day to tawang or manipur or kashmir to show off their irresponsibility on the serious issues plaguing india.Jst like they did in aarushi murder case.
     
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    PLA must be culled period nothing will solve this problem.Talks with Muviah is a serious mistake.
    Oracle what do u think is good solution
     
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    Firstly, the title is inappropriate. While Mr. Kamminlung Singson grieved at the apathy of the GoI towards Manipur, he did not make any such demand as the author would want us to believe. Yellow journalism.

    Secondly, the issues discussed in this blog are true, but does not rest with Manipur only, it's true for the whole N-E India. Manipur came into the highlight because of the road blockage by Nagas and NSCM cadres. Otherwise I have seen people retort 'Manipur - the capital of Shillong, right?'
     

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