Australian parliament debates 1984 Sikh anti-riots

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    Sikhs petition Parliament in an Australian first
    THE nation’s Sikh community has enlisted the help of Federal MP Warren Entsch to have Australia recognise the November 1984 killings of more than 37,000 Sikhs in India as genocide.

    Up to 300 Sikhs from around the country will pack Parliament’s public gallery this Thursday, when Mr Entsch (Member for Leichhardt) will table a petition of 4453 signatures - the first time the issue has been raised in the Australian Parliament.

    The petition calls for the Australian Government to recognise that an organised campaign of horrific violence took place against Sikhs in November 1984, and that these killings were ‘genocide’ as per the UN Convention on the Prevention and Punishment of the Crime of Genocide.

    It also calls on the Australian government to urge the Indian government to take “all reasonable measures” to bring those responsible to justice, not only for the 1984 violence but also for the ongoing persecution of Sikhs in the Punjab.

    For Cairns man Daljit Singh, who first raised the issue with Mr Entsch and organised the petition, there are hopes that this event will promote recognition of a dark chapter in Sikh history.

    “Every person on this planet who believes in equality and peace for mankind should support this,” Daljit Singh said. “Justice delayed is justice denied.”

    Mr Entsch said he decided to support the petition as, after learning about the events of the last century, he was “horrified” at the way Sikhs had been treated and at what is still going on today.

    “What drove me to act in particular was that the United Nations and world leaders - including the Australian Parliament in February this year – have recognised an act of genocide in Srebrenica, Bosnia, in 1995, when 7000 men and boys were massacred due to their Muslim faith,” the North Queensland MP explained.

    “I thought to myself, if something of that nature could be recognised so quickly by the world community, it seems unreasonable that the Sikh community has had to wait for so long.

    “I hope this step will serve to raise awareness, and maybe one day there will be the same level of justice for the Sikh community as for the other groups that have been recognised.”

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  3. Daredevil

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    The number 37000 is wrong. Its around 3000 killed in the riots. All the perpetrators of the riots are protected and rewarded by the Congress party. Its a wonder that Sikhs never thrown out Congress party from Punjab.
     
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    Apples and oranges. India is a country of a billion+ people with a far greater population density than Bosnia, so while 7000 may be a large number there, 3000 is comparatively small in Indian terms. If the riots against Sikhs are to be termed a "genocide", why not the anti-Brahmin riots across Maharashtra that occurred after Gandhiji's assassination?
     
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    The exact numbers might never be known, but 3000 is too less. The riots happened across India, and most affected were Kanpur and Delhi.
     
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    I also think 3000, 7000 or even 37000 are so few in Indian terms. Likely this don't counts nor 1% of Sikh population.

    To be considered as genocide is necessary that there an aim to exterminate the ethnic group on issue. There was at that time an aim by Indian government to clean out the Sikh community of the country?

    If not, then the killings can not be considered a genocide technically.
     
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    37,000 people killed, and as usual the Australian govt like all western govt's will not take the time to research and verify the number of people killed the number which has been quoted by the petitioners are imaginative and fictitious. The Australian govt is being advised by extremist elements and as in the case of U.K have succumbed to appeasement politics, there should be a counter petition on the number of Hindu's killed by the terrorist as again no one talks about that part of the story justice has also been denied to the family's of the victims of terrorism in Punjab. Siege mentality all i can say. :tsk:
     
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Any of the Congress' member was killed ?? If no then how can you call it riots ?? Sikhs didn't retaliate I guess,even a large number of sikhs remained present to show their sympathy when IG's body was being moved after she declared dead.
     
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    You are right, it wasn't a riot but a pogrom.
     
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    But sadly pogrom word is reserved for one and only modi
    by secular indian media
     
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    India should express solidarity and concern for the hundreds of thousands of native Australians or Aborogines who have been slaughtered and displaced from their hikes and habitat by "whites"
     
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+1 You're right.
But I think Oz PM a few years ago publically said "SORRY" to the native people of Oz.But what better could have been done is a big question.
     
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    In terms of statistics, then 3000 or 30,000 or even 300,000 dead is just a small blimp.

    If you look at the population of Sikhs, then its a different matter.

    And its about the principle, in India the need of the hour is a truth and reconciliation commission, which should bare out all the gory details of what happened for the public. People like to brush things under the carpet, which is a bad precedent and potentially dangerous for a vibrant democracy.

    Iirc a lot of people were urging that the full extent of historical crimes of the medieval mughal/muslim rulers to be researched, a member iirc asking for crimes by upper caste to be taught etc, how about informing us about the injustices carried out under democracy ?
     
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    It's a question of sau khoon karke billi Haj ko chali. All these countries have been part of pogroms all over the world in their "heydays" of colonial power.
    They starved the native population and plundered their wealth and today show concern for the millions of naked and hungry populations of their erstwhile colonies.

    India should not even issue any displeasure or anything and ignore such comments from countries on their way down.
     
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    Pointification by Australia might seem hypocritical. These nations have indeed been guilty of crimes on the indigenous/native peoples and for some they haven't even apologised.

    But how can you equate this to what a democratic government does to its own people and refuses to acknowledge or talk about it ? If Australia wants to talk about it, I don't care two hoots, but why weren't people hanged in my country ?
     
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    my heart bleeds for them :(
     
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    Thats the failure of the entire political and justice system and there is no doubt about it. Yes the Sikh community has been failed by the system. It has been discussed at length over the years in various forums. I mean not just online forums but media at large. Its a shame that there is still no closure for those affected by the riots.
    Still, the Aussies have no business in talking about what happens in India.
     
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    Yeah indian hearts bleeds for the Baloch, Sindhis, Ahmadis, Bohras, Pak Hindus, Christians and various other minorities which are under hardship in Pakistan.
     
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    The issue is not only the Sikhs but all Indians have been failed. Personally, I feel corruption scandals have killed more people than all riots and law and order failures. And we are nowhere on that front either.

    Not much will come out of it.
     
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    take them to your Super power country than
     
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    No we will just break apart your country just like we did with Bangladesh.
     

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