Australia snubs India, refuses to lift ban on Uranium sale

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    http://www.indianexpress.com/news/australia-snubs-india-refuses-to-lift-ban-on-uranium-sale/739923/0

    Australia on Thursday refused to concede to India's repeated requests for revoking a ban on Uranium sale to it, saying Canberra remains steadfast on its policy of not selling the yellow metal to Non-Proliferation Treaty (NPT) non-signatories.

    External Affairs Minister S M Krishna raised the issue of Uranium sale with Australia for a second day during his meeting with his Australian counterpart Kevin Rudd but the latter said his country's stand remains unchanged.

    He had yesterday taken up the issue with Australia's Resource, Energy and Tourism Minister Martin Ferguson.

    Rudd acknowledged India's clean record on nuclear proliferation, but maintained it was Australia's national policy to not sell the yellow metal to NPT non-signatories.

    Rudd said "Australia fundamentally respects India's long standing credentials on the non-proliferation question".

    Addressing a joint press conference here along with the visiting Krishna, Rudd acknowledged that India has not been responsible for a single act of nuclear weapons proliferation anywhere in the world.

    "Something which we place on record again as being our views of India's public policy posture and operational behaviour for a very long period of time," he said.

    Australia is unwilling to sell uranium to India because it has not signed the Nuclear Non-Proliferation Treaty.

    Rudd said the issue, however, has not damaged ties between the countries.

    "However, Australia's stands on NPT remains. We continue to discuss these matters as friends do," he said emphasising on the strategic partnership that the two countries shared.

    "There is a huge amount underway in the Australia-India relationship at the political, security and economic levels... There's sufficient ballast in this relationship to deal with areas of periodic disagreement as there are in all relationships," he said.

    Commenting on the issue, Krishna said he has pleaded with the Australian government to change the policy, stressing that nuclear energy as a clean energy source was crucial to the rising energy demands of India.

    "If you have to have clean energy, then according to India the only option is to have nuclear energy, and if you have to have nuclear energy, then you certainly need uranium," he said.

    On the question of the security of Indian students in Australia, Rudd gave his full assurance to his counterpart.

    He said as the Foreign Minister he takes the issue of security of any guest including international students 'fundamentally and seriously'.

    "I take the responsibility and that is our job," he said after holding the seventh ministerial dialogue with Krishna at a joint press conference here today.

    "Any student from any part of the world who runs into

    any security issue is one two many," Rudd said.

    Appreciating the steps taken by the Australian government, Krishna said Indian students were now feeling confident and secure despite the fact that the number of enrolments had dropped by almost half.

    Krishna said when he visited the country in 2009 he was carrying an "anguish and worry" in the backdrop of a series of racial attacks on students in the country.

    "But on this visit that worry is missing, that anguish has disappeared," Krishna said.

    "Indian students feel quite secure and feel quite confident, and they feel they can pursue their studies without any anxiety," he said.

    He said though the drop in enrolment of Indian students has been given as 80 per cent, however according to his understanding the drop was by 40 per cent.

    On the economic ties between the two countries, Krishna said a Free Trade Agreement joint feasibility study was already complete and the trade imbalance with Australia was the second largest that India had with any of its trading partners.

    He urged greater flexibility and requested early action on issues that impacted on India's exports to Australia.

    Krishna also urged Australia to give consideration to the situation of Indian students who had suffered after the revision in skills criteria for permanent residency by the government.

    Rudd on his part highlighted that there were generous transition arrangements for most holders of international student visa programme announced last year and said Australian residency to any new immigrant was never a full guarantee.
     
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    Change in leadership hasn't made any difference. Howard was better in this regard. If he was re-elected back then, india would have already got some yellow cake by now from australia.
    India has to just bide time before australia comes around. If not sooner, it most certainly will later. India will be an NPT member with nukes in the future, that is if NPT lasts that long.
     
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    I just don't get it: हम क्यों बार बार अपना माथा उनके दर पे मारते हैं जब पता है कि वो नहीं मानेंगे?"

    Do we have to show as if we are begging them? They are suck-ups to China guys! China saved their economy in last 3 years. Think about it: even the most adamant countries like Switzerland, Ireland and Kiwis agreed and moved on but Australia didn't. You think there's no reason for this?

    Let's see how many countries are ready to supply us as much as we want:

    - Russia
    - Canada
    - France
    - Kazakhstan
    - Namibia
    - Mongolia
    - Congo
    - USA
    - South Korea
    - Japan
    - South Africa

    And possibly another 2 dozen countries more than eager to do this business especially in Africa where this would mean big bucks for their economies. Australia has vast resources of Uranium agreed. But they aren't the only ones and hence we don't need to beg those racist losers.
     
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    india is not begging them but negotiating with them for trade. Yes we have a basket of suppliers but the Aussie ore is superior to others. Also india quickly wants to build a strategic uranium reserve for rainy days. We need to lay our hands on all the ore we can find.
     
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    Then तो forget it. Without strategic intentions and with guarantee of civil energy only use the OZ are so paranoid and refusing. Imagine if they even get a whiff of our intentions again. LOL! They would scream "Mummy!" and run to US for complaining to the Kissinger Brigade.

    Aussie ore might be terrific quality but we are also moving to Thorium reactors. Remember there are a lot of African countries that might have equal quality that we have not discovered. Africa is blessed with the best of everything except sensible governments (or else entire continent would be like Japanese and Europe today).

    We should focus on African countries more now.
     
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    Strategic uranium reserve not for our weapons program but our civil program. Just like you have a strategic oil reserve. Remember how sanctions screwed tarapur as there was no fuel.
     
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    you have to respect a uniformity of policy. One may not like it that an exception is not made in this case, but if that's their national policy- then that's their national policy. It's not like they don't cooperate with India in other places...

    Btw, I seem to forget- why did India not want to be part of the NPT?
     
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    You are kidding right?
     
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    :D no i forgot and was being lazy about refreshing the reasons as to why_ through Google. I have not passed any judgment on it- I simply forgot the reasons.
     
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    Agreed!

    We have 2 nuclear armed countries in our neighborhood and we have gone to war with one of them several times, and once with the other. They itself have become the definition of what we know as rouge states, covertly and overtly being engaged in the Proliferation of Nuclear Technology. India's record OTOH is clean enough for the most powerful country in the world to land us a Civil Nuclear Deal, instead of India not signing NPT as well as CTBT. This where India stands.

    Also, we have reserved the right to use processed nuclear fuel as when where we need it. Read more in here mate!
     
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    Lol. India is not a party to NPT as it didn't want to be party to a discriminatory treaty that formed an exclusive club of nuke weapons haves while the rest could not, with china breathing down our necks, there was no way we could do that.
     
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    You might also like to add Pakistan, and Chinese proliferation of nuclear technology to it.
     
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    Chinese proliferation started later on. Actually if india had conducted a nuke test before the turn of the seventies, it could have been a member of NPT as a nuke state.
     
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    Yeah! We were 4 years late! Does not matter too much though :)
     
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    again showing my total laziness- did china and pak sign the NPT agreement? and how does saying that we will not proliferate (NPT) equate to we will not build nuclear weapons?
     
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    China signed NPT in 1992, Pakistan has not. Non proliferation means not supplying nuclear missiles, technology, fuel to non nuclear weapons states.
     
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    Do we really need to buy from Australia?? Kazakstan,France,Canada,USA and Russia and our own indigenous inventory should be more than enough.
     
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    I think lal bahadur shashtri dilly dallied on testing. He was tipped off by soviets to do so.
     
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    China signed in 92 after so many years of the treaty being in force. It did so till the time it finished helping pakistan build its bomb so that no one blames it for violating any treaty obligation. NPT is a useless treaty.
     
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    My thoughts in my earlier posts in this thread.
     

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