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  1. nrupatunga

    nrupatunga Senior Member Senior Member

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    Opening a thread for australia, nz.
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    Starting with election results for australia

    Australia's conservative opposition wins election with landslide victory

    So the conservative party wrest back power from labour party. IIRC kevin rudd was against selling uranium to india, hopefully the new government has more positive appraoch towards india.

    Off-topic: Tony blair is now a catholic, australia has elected a catholic now, it seems catholicism is gaining in UK, australia
     
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    Australian election: Ten things
     
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    [Obligatory vote: Every Australian citizen (18 years or older) is required by law to vote. If an enrolled citizen fails to vote and is unable to provide a valid reason, a penalty is imposed. If the penalty is not paid the matter is taken to court, if found guilty a fine of up to A$170 (£100) plus court costs may be imposed.]

    very happy to hear such laws.India too should implement this law to make educated idiots to cast their votes
     
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    Religion plays no part in Australian culture. As for Aussie finally getting it right is a great achievement for common sense. I voted for Abbott so I have no complaints

    I just hope rudd the stud stays out of the way

    Worst figures in over 100 years? Lol says it all
     
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    We donkey vote, means put a blank form in the box if we don't like any of them
     
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    Though aussies follow uncle sam mainly when it comes to foreign policy, heard that china is making huge inroads by becoming a big trading partner. How is china percieved down under there?? Was china a talking point in elections??
     
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    I saw an interesting debate on a foreign channel (Can't remember which?) that had a vote.

    Surprisingly, the majority was not in favour of any alliance with the US.

    Most surprising to say the least.

    There was also talk on Reliance and not Alliance!

    But with the new Govt, let us see how Australia tilts and what it means for India.

    Commentaries indicate the infighting in the Labour is what ruined their chances.
     
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    Aussies don't in general accept Asians. Only rudd in his stupid idea we should become apart of China, our trading ties. Rudd lost leadership in the first place by pushing China. BTW Aussies hate the USA as a rule.
    Fact is Australia is the leader of the Asia Pacific rim, but more independent than first thought. We have the only weapons grade uranium. Gives a massive shift of power to Australia. Our military alliance to the USA overs over 150 years so China is aware Australia is like a street whore, will say and smile at anyone but is well owned by the USA as her pimp.
     
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    Don't you feel that line in red contradicts the line in blue here???
     
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    This article says the following on tony abott, the new aussie pm.

     
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    Lol no. Just because u are an independent nation doesn't mean u can't be sold out by your government for their agenda. Fact is our political leaders are still accountable to the people.
    Do we rely on the USA to live? Is no. But we are military allies which we take serious.
    trade with China is higher on the economic agenda for us.
    but fact is we are able to easily survive without the import or exports from both countries.
    But doesn't stop political dumbasses trying to prosecute our resources out for more international influence.
    in a nutshell Australia wants world approval where it doesn't need it.
    Is that a lil clearer?

    And BTW what our political leaders say have lil to nothing to do with the real country.
     
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    Roman Catholic has been the largest Christian group for ages now, in Australia. Situation is very different in the UK.

    This was Australian, the channel you watched? And this was an Australian- US military alliance that the majority wasn't in favour of?

    Australia has had also sorts of, very binding, alliances with the USA since forever. If you were watching an Australian show were the majority of the audience was opposed to military alliances with America you must have been watching the "crazy hippy" channel. Particulary, if they started talking about military reliance, not alliance. For the Australian military to be properly self reliant, the military budget would have to be massively increased, which I guess the crazy hippies wouldn't appreciate


    Where on Earth are you from? You've gotten Australian citizenship with your standard of English? How did you get to vote in NZ?

    What do you mean by "don't accept Asians"? There were more than one reason why Rudd was sacked, and I wouldn't say China was particularly important in regards to "Kevin707" losing the PM-ship. Is massively incorrect to say "Aussies hate the USA".

    Australia is not the leader of the Asia- Pacific Rim. That would be the USA or Japan. If "Asia Pacific Rim" was actually a meaningful concept, China, S. Korea and Russia would be higher in the leadership stakes than OZ.

    Australia, USA, Russia and China all have weapons grades uranium, which is a totally irrelevant point to Australia as we don't use nuclear weapons or power.

    As to the whores and pimps... Are you Hello10? That would make sense.
     
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    "Apple what you smoking? Catholics are not dominant Christian, last study should Aussies say no religion.
    Rudd sold us out to the Chinese hence why he could not kept leadership
    And u can't understand Aussie? Really with username of apple? Your Chinese.
    As u know Australia leads China follows.
    Most Aussies are racist. Last study showed 8 out of 10 Australians are racist.
    As for the natural resources here....hellloooo!
    Really come on lmao!
     
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    OK Hmm can't edit my post but apple really wtf? All Aussies vote even if we are Expats. Its the law! We put in an international postal vote or vote via ec website ....
     
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    Australia’s refugee stance sets ‘alarming global precedent’
     
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    Boom and bust in Australia's coal country
     
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    2011 census reported that a quarter of Australians considered themselves Roman Catholic, while 22% stated they had no religion. While it's, perhaps, useful to describe Australians as having no religion, to foreigners, as it plays (comparitively) little part in our society compared to other parts of the world, it's not the whole truth. Particularly in regards to politics. Abbott must the first Catholic to be the leader of the Liberal Party... coincidence?

    Australian English is my first language, it annoys me to see a (alledged) Australian citizen screw it up. But, congratulations on this post, it's not so incorrect as your earlier posts.

    And no, I'm not Chinese. What is it with you and the Chinese. Saw your post on NZ saying Chinese exchange students are prostitutes...

    China's not leading Australia, they pay cash for our goods.

    Which study showed 8/10 Australia's being racist? A study by the Islamic, disabled, Aboriginal, lesbian Socialist Collective?

    That's been changed then. I'll give you the benefit of the doubt and wont claim you're lying. Last time I tried to vote overseas, I had to provide a witness, who was an Australian citizen, who had personally known me for over five years for my vote to be eligible.

    Find it very difficult to believe (actually, I will claim you lying about this part) that you can "vote via ec website" sic.

    That's the way selling resources go. Didn't know they were mining coal in Mackay, which is quite a big town, nor that the price of coal had gone down. But, when the mine shuts, the coal stays in the ground to be sold at a later date. Most mines are located in the middle of no where, so the boom/ bust cycle doesn't really affect the local community as there is no (or very little of a) local community to affect.
     
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    Dump middle-power tag - Australia carries bigger stick than that
     
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    Lamb Island residents see chance of nationhood arrive
    Barton and Margaret Bulwinkel could be monarchs, as island of 400 inhabitants off Brisbane votes on secession from Australia
    Paul Farrell
    theguardian.com, Friday 18 October 2013 08.00 BST


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    Starting a new country is no easy feat, but this Saturday a small Australian island will take a vote that may change the course of its future.

    The residents of Lamb Island, which sits off the coast of Brisbane, will on Saturday take a vote to decide whether or not they will secede from Australia and become an independent constitutional monarchy called Independent Republic of Nguduroodistan, the name of the island in native language.

    “It started out as a sitting on a deck with a friend of mine and just having a general gripe about lack of provision of services and then I thought, ‘why don't we secede?’” says Tony Gilson, the Lamb Island resident who initiated the vote and runs the island’s convenience store.

    Gilson says the main reasons for taking the vote are slow police response times and a sense that the local council, Redlands City, has not paid enough attention to the island, which has a population of just over 400.

    “Lamb Island is a fantastic community and the residents here should all be proud of themselves,” he says.

    If successful, the new monarchs will be King Barton Bulwinkel, 89, and Queen Margaret Bulwinkel, 86, the island’s longest-term residents, who have lived there for 53 years. A new currency will also be created and a subsequent plebiscite will be called to decide on the exact form of the constitution.

    Gilson wants to stress that while the issues the island has faced are real, the vote is also about having fun and will not jeopardise the island’s residents. The new state’s relationship with Australia will remain amicable and will not affect residents access to pensions and other provisions.

    If they become a republic they will need to nominate official and secondary languages, and Klingon and Elvish have been flagged as possibilities.

    Gilson has also been lobbying hard to try and gain support overseas to help the fledgling nation. He emailed George Takei to invite him to hold Star Trek conventions on the island if it becomes a successful republic, although Takei has not responded. He also tried to contact Angelina Jolie to see if she would stop by while she was in Australia for her latest film.

    There are also positive plans for government on Lamb Island that Gilson says could be an example for the prime minister, Tony Abbott’s leadership. There will be portfolios for social justice and equity, climate change, and a minister for women.

    “I even sent out a message to Kevin Rudd saying foreign affairs was available if he wanted it,” he says.

    And as an island nation in control of their own borders, Gilson says they will not be turning or towing back any boats that land on their shores.

    “We’re a very diverse community, very tolerant and we pride ourselves on inclusiveness,” he says.

    If Lamb Island decides to secede, it will become the latest of a number of principalities that have decided to break away from the mainland.

    The Principality of Hutt River located within Western Australia was established on 21 April 1972. It briefly declared war on Australia in 1977 after repeated requests from the Australian Tax Office to pay taxes, but the crisis was resolved and the war ended bloodlessly shortly after.

    The Principality of Wy is in Mosman, Sydney and is led by Prince Paul Delprat, who seceded after a local council dispute on 15 November 2004.

    Gilson says he is hopeful that the Lamb Island vote will also succeed. The vote is scheduled for this Saturday between 10am and 2pm, to coincide with the island’s bowls and recreation club Oktoberfest celebrations.

    Lamb Island residents see chance of nationhood arrive | World news | theguardian.com
     
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    what is happening.

    scotland wants secession.now some islands from australia.???
    why are the developed countries breaking apart??
     

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