Australia a nation once "roamed by rascals and outlaws", claims China

Discussion in 'China' started by Ray, Jul 16, 2014.

  1. Ray

    Ray The Chairman Defence Professionals Moderator

    Joined:
    Apr 17, 2009
    Messages:
    43,118
    Likes Received:
    23,543
    Location:
    Somewhere
    China, realising that it can do damn all against Australia, is venting its frustration in the typical Chinese juvenile style - Australia, once "roamed by rascals and outlaws from Europe", is in no position to criticise China.

    It maybe that Australia initially was flooded by social malcontent of England, but is it the case now? What is the relation of who were the immigrants to Australia criticising China today?

    Totally idiotic, mindless and juvenile an argument to say the least!

    The Chinese being brutal hegemonic lot cannot understand the higher esoteric issues such as appreciating valour, even of the enemy. India appreciates as I have repeatedly showed with links. What is wrong in this - "We admired the skill and the sense of honour that they brought to their task although we disagreed with what they did,"

    China to its neighbours is a demonic and most disagreeable and even detested nation. But if one praises their progress, does it mean that is incorrect or an outrage?

    It is most humorous and even ludicrous of the Chinese to state - The Chinese-language version referred to Australia's "filthy record of violating the human rights of Aboriginals". They are so arrogant that they fail to realise that their human rights record is the pits. Ask the Tibetans, the Uighurs, the Christians, the Mongols, the Muslims, or even the Han themselves. What the dickens are the Laogais all about - freedom and justice? What about the cultural Revolution massacres? What about the Tienanmen Square massacres?

    The Chinese double talk and eyes closed blindness to their own faults stinks when they spew with pious platitudinous bilge.

    What Bishop said: "China doesn't respect weakness" and Australia must "hope for the best and manage for the worst" in its relations with China is true. Get tough with them and then they lose their balance as this article indicates where they mindless, with childlike anger foam at the bit! Act tough with them and then whimper in impotent rage!

    If as the Chinese claim that Bishop is an 'idiot', then the Chinese requires tons to brain to even reach the level of being termed as idiots. They are way below being labelled cretins, let alone being labelled idiots.
     
    TrueSpirit1 likes this.
  2.  
  3. Srinivas_K

    Srinivas_K Senior Member Senior Member

    Joined:
    Jun 17, 2009
    Messages:
    4,674
    Likes Received:
    3,351
    Re: Australia a nation once "roamed by rascals and outlaws", claims Ch

    Chinese think their rise has no limits and they can do what ever they want in their vicinity.

    China defied economic laws, Chinese miracle of the century , Chinese policies ....... enough of it.

    Chinese are made rich to spend and fuel global growth and also keep the western hegemony in tact.
     
  4. Ray

    Ray The Chairman Defence Professionals Moderator

    Joined:
    Apr 17, 2009
    Messages:
    43,118
    Likes Received:
    23,543
    Location:
    Somewhere
    Re: Australia a nation once "roamed by rascals and outlaws", claims Ch

    I wonder what @apple has to say of this.
     
    Last edited by a moderator: May 10, 2015
  5. roma

    roma NRI in Europe Senior Member

    Joined:
    Aug 10, 2009
    Messages:
    3,247
    Likes Received:
    1,861
    Re: Australia a nation once "roamed by rascals and outlaws", claims Ch

    Regarding the title, I was in a quandary about the inclusion of the word "once" ?

    Nevertheless the Aussies do from time to time show some signs of acquiring (even) human intelligence
    ( i hope ), and inviting the Japanese to join forces, as they have now newly done,
    is certainly a movement in the RIGHT direction .

    Please keep improving, Australia !
     
    Last edited: Jul 16, 2014
    hit&run and angeldude13 like this.
  6. angeldude13

    angeldude13 Lestat De Lioncourt Senior Member

    Joined:
    Dec 18, 2010
    Messages:
    1,746
    Likes Received:
    1,287
    Re: Australia a nation once "roamed by rascals and outlaws", claims Ch

    :rofl: :rofl: :rofl:
     
  7. Ashutosh Lokhande

    Ashutosh Lokhande Senior Member Senior Member

    Joined:
    May 28, 2014
    Messages:
    1,285
    Likes Received:
    561
    Location:
    Mumbai, Maharashtra, India, India
    Re: Australia a nation once "roamed by rascals and outlaws", claims Ch

    China a nation still roamed by slight eyed dog eaters :)
     
  8. anupamsurey

    anupamsurey Regular Member

    Joined:
    Jun 19, 2014
    Messages:
    986
    Likes Received:
    396
    Location:
    karnataka
    Re: Australia a nation once "roamed by rascals and outlaws", claims Ch

    look who is talking, have chinese forgotten injustice to tibetian, what about tinamen, do muzzies, christians, buddhist live peacefully in china?
     
  9. apple

    apple Tihar Jail Banned

    Joined:
    Mar 15, 2011
    Messages:
    612
    Likes Received:
    171
    Re: Australia a nation once "roamed by rascals and outlaws", claims Ch

    It reminds me of when the Indian cricket team try to sledge.

    It's either massively over the top, typically involving large doses of racism i.e.
    / Harby calling Symonds a monkey, delivered with such aggressive, hate filled stupidity as to be totally inappropriate and easy to walk away from.

    Or, it's not offensive at all i.e. when the Indian team kept calling the Australian team "convict descendants", which makes the vehemance of its delivery somewhat confusing and the whole situation is pretty amusing.

    These comments are nothing compared to what appears in the Indian press. Malaysia and Indonesia come up with some good stories too.

    I can see plenty wrong with that. Was, until he got to be Prime Minister, rather neutral about Abbott but he's really beginning to piss me off. I am not part of Abbott's "we", but as he used admire in the past tense, presume he's referring to the post WW2 generation. In which case he's being massively misleading i.e. his statement is a lie.

    Diplomatically, I can't see how he thought it would be useful.

    While no one took him seriously and everyone knew his own party was going to stab him in the back, sooner rather than later, ex PM Rudd was greatly respected for his knowledge of Asia, in particular China. Another controversial ex PM, Paul Keating, also deeply involved himself in Asia and suspect Abbott wants to follow in the legacy of these two. Unfortunately for Abbott, Rudd was a subject matter expert, while Keating was a hard bastard, and both of them could handle themselves in the world of international diplomacy while Abbott continues to prove himself an embarrassment. First a purely domestic embarrassment, he's now gone international.
     
    Last edited by a moderator: May 10, 2015
  10. Voldemort

    Voldemort Senior Member Senior Member

    Joined:
    Dec 25, 2013
    Messages:
    1,051
    Likes Received:
    608
    Location:
    Kolkata
    Re: Australia a nation once "roamed by rascals and outlaws", claims Ch

    @apple Few years back, there were a large number of racist attacks on Indian students and cabbies. And Harbhajan Singh was cleared of any wrongdoing in the episode you speak of.
     
    Last edited by a moderator: May 10, 2015
  11. apple

    apple Tihar Jail Banned

    Joined:
    Mar 15, 2011
    Messages:
    612
    Likes Received:
    171
    Re: Australia a nation once "roamed by rascals and outlaws", claims Ch

    Yeah, I know... while the "racist attacks" is a big subject, can certainly understand how that situation would generate bad press. And I think I might follow a strict policy of not mentioning Monkeygate anymore.

    I wasn't trying to make throw any mud or make any judgements on anyone, or on their nation's press. Was just stating some (from my perspective) facts.

    That Chinese newspaper's story is probably trying to be offensive but I don't find it that bad, just a bit weird... I wish I could be more of a rascal. While stories I've seen in other nations newspapers I have found immensively offensive.
     
    Last edited by a moderator: May 10, 2015
  12. p2prada

    p2prada Stars and Ambassadors Stars and Ambassadors

    Joined:
    May 25, 2009
    Messages:
    10,233
    Likes Received:
    3,896
    Location:
    Holy Hell
    Re: Australia a nation once "roamed by rascals and outlaws", claims Ch

    @apple

    I don't follow cricket, but the Indian player did not call Symonds a monkey. "Maa ki" is a common Indian slur and we can understand why Symonds mistook it for monkey, and he obviously took it personally. As a matter of fact, I can't imagine any adult Indian using monkey as a slur in any situation. It simply does not fit. More so when we know Singh was from Punjab and most likely to use the slur Maa Ki rather than monkey.

    Hell, you can ask the Pakistanis and even they will tell you the same.
     
    Last edited by a moderator: May 10, 2015
  13. roma

    roma NRI in Europe Senior Member

    Joined:
    Aug 10, 2009
    Messages:
    3,247
    Likes Received:
    1,861
    Re: Australia a nation once "roamed by rascals and outlaws", claims Ch

    great "opportunity " to link with reasonably developed Chin frends
    ( as there doesnt exist a word between friends and fiends )

    and at the same time use SAMURAI (!) to control frends from the back ? :laugh:
    :laugh:
     
  14. Ray

    Ray The Chairman Defence Professionals Moderator

    Joined:
    Apr 17, 2009
    Messages:
    43,118
    Likes Received:
    23,543
    Location:
    Somewhere
    Re: Australia a nation once "roamed by rascals and outlaws", claims Ch

    Actually, Harbhajan did not call him 'monkey'.

    He had said - "Teri Ma ki", which was incorrectly understood as 'monkey'.

    Of course, the media does go berserk at times, but then Global Times, is a part of The Peoples' Daily and thus the media of the CCP and hence of the Chinese Govt. That is where the difference lies. Nothing in Global Times can be printed with the official go ahead.



    You PM is a liar?

    I understand why the PM has pissed you off too!

    I reckon the diplomatic spin off was possibly because Australia is finding the Chinese aggressive and unending encroachment to the South in the SCS a trifle alarming and so the Australian PM was merely shoring up the flanks and cautioning China thus far and no further.

    Rudd was an expert on Asia? Since when?

    All he was an expert in is Manadrin (at least by Australian standards) and Mandarin is surely not Asia!

    How is Abbot an embarrassment. He has done many good legislations from the Australian domestic standpoint such as repealing the Carbon Tax, commencing Operation Sovereign Borders, which received strong public support, the yeoman's service for the Aboriginal people and so on.

    How's his statement on recognising valour an international embarrassment?

    If it were so, then is it not also an embarrassment that the West recognised and lauds the military prowess of many German Generals, who masterminded tactics and plans that killed thousand of American, British, Australian, Indian troops in WWI & II?

    Or the West's acknowledgement of Mao and Che as great exponent of Guerilla Warfare?
     
  15. Blackwater

    Blackwater Veteran Member Veteran Member

    Joined:
    Jan 9, 2012
    Messages:
    20,983
    Likes Received:
    11,810
    Location:
    Akhand Bharat
    Re: Australia a nation once "roamed by rascals and outlaws", claims Ch

    Australia a nation once "roamed by rascals and outlaws", claims China


    In 2014 its pakistan:laugh::laugh::laugh::laugh:
     
    Last edited: Jul 17, 2014
    Ashutosh Lokhande, p2prada and Ray like this.
  16. apple

    apple Tihar Jail Banned

    Joined:
    Mar 15, 2011
    Messages:
    612
    Likes Received:
    171
    Re: Australia a nation once "roamed by rascals and outlaws", claims Ch

    The repeal of the Carbon Tax and border control have received strong support from his voter base and strengthened his position with- in his own party. But they weren't universally appreciated and exist amongst a plethora of stupid plans, and statements, of his. Don't think he's won over many new supporters and his support within his own party is slipping.

    Don't like using the term "The West", in general. Particularly on this forum.

    For example, I "represent" the West. I consider Rommel an incompetent, unreformed Nazi, with the blood of millions of innocents on his hands and I sincerely hope that he's not enjoying burning in hell. The only thing great about Che was his beard, and Mao was a coward, who only came to power because Chinese society of the time was such a failure.

    What??? There also doesn't "exist a word" between racist and troll.

    As with Roma's comment... What?

    In 1479 its Tree green Derrida :laugh::laugh:
     
    Last edited: Jul 17, 2014
  17. ladder

    ladder Senior Member Senior Member

    Joined:
    Mar 28, 2013
    Messages:
    4,751
    Likes Received:
    2,666
    Location:
    India
    Re: Australia a nation once "roamed by rascals and outlaws", claims Ch

    Can you possibly provide a link to when Harbajan Singh as admitted to the use of the word 'Monkey'?
     
  18. thethinker

    thethinker Senior Member Senior Member

    Joined:
    Dec 18, 2013
    Messages:
    2,196
    Likes Received:
    2,791
    Location:
    India
    Re: Australia a nation once "roamed by rascals and outlaws", claims Ch

    Aussie cricket team has a history of sledging violent threats.How can such a team take offense to something they perceive as racial is confusing. When you threaten other players with serious bodily injuries, Harbhajan's maaki abuse seems pale.

    Some notable sleges :

    12th Man Sledge

    Players involved: Ravi Shastri and Mike Whitney
    Series: Second Test in Melbourne 1991/92 vs India
    What happened: Not one known for his mental resoluteness, Ravi Shastri was batting when the 12th man for Australia Mike Whitney was called on as a substitute fielder. Shastri attempted to pinch a quick single to Whitney at mid-off who yelled out at the 80-Test veteran, "If you leave your crease I will break your f---ing head."

    Without flinching, Shastri replied angrily, "Hey! If you could bat or bowl as well as you could talk, you wouldn't be f---ing twelfth man!"

    Recent series :

    Michael Clarke's verbal barrage at England's last man standing James Anderson has well and truly brought to life this summer's Ashes series, as both sides prepare to dish it out during the next four Tests.

    Clarke was heard through the stump microphone on the field telling Anderson that he should "get ready for a broken f----ing arm."
     
  19. Ray

    Ray The Chairman Defence Professionals Moderator

    Joined:
    Apr 17, 2009
    Messages:
    43,118
    Likes Received:
    23,543
    Location:
    Somewhere
    Re: Australia a nation once "roamed by rascals and outlaws", claims Ch

    I wonder how he could admit to something he never said and what he said was misinterpreted by a person, whose self guilt of looking like a monkey must have irked him.

    [​IMG]

    [​IMG]
     
  20. apple

    apple Tihar Jail Banned

    Joined:
    Mar 15, 2011
    Messages:
    612
    Likes Received:
    171
    Re: Australia a nation once "roamed by rascals and outlaws", claims Ch

    Thought he'd admitted it when the crowds in Wankhede, etc... started the monkey chants for Symonds in 2007. But, it would seem he never publically acknowledged he'd said that word. Sorry about that, although I'm even more sorry I mentioned his name in the first place and brought this subject up as it's not that relevant.

    Cultural differences, which actually maybe has some relevance to this thread. Threatening someone with violence, while frowned on, wouldn't lead to any sanction in any western professional sport. Well, except maybe golf or billiards or something.

    Likewise, I strongly suspect that Chinese article was attempting to be extremely offensive to Australia. But, I'm not sure whether the article can be judged on intent and I'm not really sure what the intent was...

    Is an awkward situation, but I guess a common one in International Relations.
     
    Last edited: Jul 17, 2014
  21. Ray

    Ray The Chairman Defence Professionals Moderator

    Joined:
    Apr 17, 2009
    Messages:
    43,118
    Likes Received:
    23,543
    Location:
    Somewhere
    Re: Australia a nation once "roamed by rascals and outlaws", claims Ch

    Peoples' Daily is the more restrained views of the Govt of China.

    The Global Times is the unrestrained view of the Govt of China spouting on behalf of the Govt of China what they don';t want to say upfront.

     

Share This Page