There's absolutely zero logic in your post.I think its a great idea, with Russia turning into some sort of Tsar Putin Empire and their poor supply of weapons and cheating us on the Gorshkov deal etc., I think the time has come we moved away from an dead ally who no longer is an Ally by sprite but only because of monetary benefits. It would make good sense to keep China under the shield with their growing support to Pakistan.
Remember the USA did not play imperialistic games with us it was only Britian and so we should not punish the Americans for the ills of Britian. Not to mention China and Pakistan have invaded us.
No way, India is not Pakistan to play such a cheap game and Russia is not China to become a copy cat...Get the damn thing free of cost from US and pass it to Russia. Problem solved.
Should India support a country which arms our arch enemy for the past 6 decades, gives a blind eye on all of our enemy's terrorist action on our country, which sent a CWG to attack us during our war with our terrorist neighbour and sanctioned us with the maximum number of times in the history of our country?I think its a great idea, with Russia turning into some sort of Tsar Putin Empire and their poor supply of weapons and cheating us on the Gorshkov deal etc., I think the time has come we moved away from an dead ally who no longer is an Ally by sprite but only because of monetary benefits. It would make good sense to keep China under the shield with their growing support to Pakistan.
Remember the USA did not play imperialistic games with us it was only Britian and so we should not punish the Americans for the ills of Britian. Not to mention China and Pakistan have invaded us.
fixedmy vote:
Against prc? Sure.
Against russia? never ever.
It is nonsense only to Westerners.I'm getting a little tired of this 'why should we receive or give help to America because of Pakistan' nonsense.
Because we are a somewhat important country now. Everyone, including America, is trying to get India on their side, because we apparently matter. We have economic, military and strategic clout today that we did not have pre-1990s.I guess with an equal response, someone should ask the question 'why is it the Americans are only helping India more so now than before?'
I don't think you understand. Pakistan was created by the British for the primary reason of being a pro-Western country in South Asia. The Indian National Congress in general, and Nehru in particular, were determined to follow a neutral foreign policy, which was a noble but (at the time) naive policy. On the other hand, Jinnah was more than willing to ally his country with the West, and so the British gave the green light for the creation of Pakistan. India was destined to become part of the Soviet camp starting in 1947 itself, due to Western unwillingness to lose their influence in the region, and limit Soviet influence in the same.Perhaps the answer could be found by asking why the Nehru/Gandhi politicians cozied up to the USSR as early as the 1950s, and their co-founding of the NAM. Why didn't they instead approach the US in the beginning?
In international arena there are no permant friends and enemies, there are just intrest and the party benificial for our intrest is our friend and party which is a hinderance for our intrest is our enemy.No way that India is going to accept this plan by the US. We are good friends of Russia and the friendship will remain forever and this relationship is good for India. This another plan of US to bring down India.
No mate, India tried to maintain equal relationship with USA and USSR at one point. But, since USA armed Pakistan to fight USSR in Afghanistan and Pakistan used that situation very well against India, we are forced to side with USSR for support.I'm getting a little tired of this 'why should we receive or give help to America because of Pakistan' nonsense. I guess with an equal response, someone should ask the question 'why is it the Americans are only helping India more so now than before?' Perhaps the answer could be found by asking why the Nehru/Gandhi politicians cozied up to the USSR as early as the 1950s, and their co-founding of the NAM. Why didn't they instead approach the US in the beginning? We'll never find the answer to that question.
Doesn't Russia supports China in all ways and exploits us in all possible was.Should India support a country which arms our arch enemy for the past 6 decades, gives a blind eye on all of our enemy's terrorist action on our country, which sent a CWG to attack us during our war with our terrorist neighbour and sanctioned us with the maximum number of times in the history of our country?
And should India go against a country which supports us for the past 6 decades, which supports us in every difficult situation even by employing it's Veto power, which opposed any sanctions against us in any known situation, which provides us with the arms and technology which any other country is not ready to provide us, and which sent war ships and nuclear submarines to save us from USN's CWG attack?
USA is trying to develop a relation with India only because our country is getting stronger economically, militarily and gaining influence in this world. It is Russia( and it was USSR) which helps us starting from the very beginning of our journey as a country in 1947 and provided us with help in economy, technology and defence.
Hell no mate...
This is our fault for not joining SCO.Doesn't Russia supports China in all ways and exploits us in all possible was.
USSR did that when it was powerful enough to deter USN's CWG from attacking us during 1971 war and also USSR deterred china from attacking when India was in war with Pakistan.Doesn't Russia supports China in all ways and exploits us in all possible was.
As for your remaining post stop living in past, this is not 1971 it is 2011. Today if USN sends a CBG against us will Russia help us - No because it won't be in there intrest. The only reason they helped us was that it was in there intrest.
They sell us weapons because we pay them, they don't give anything for free.
US relations generally started with Pakistan after Nehru gained favor with Kruschev, despite the fact that during Chinas border war with India in 1962, John F Kennedy vowed to go to war with China, even going to the nuclear level if they re-opened that conflict. Sadly he was assassinated by an extreme left wing Soviet Union sympathizer, and India continued its capitulation and support of the NAM; a club of tyrants and mass murders, and all the while becoming friendlier to the USSR. There was no push for India to gain ties with the Soviet Union originally, Nehru willingly made those diplomatic ties. Pakistan is perhaps the only country that adopted a friendlier stance to the west in the beginning and the 1971 war would not have seen the US on Pakistans side if not for these facts.No mate, India tried to maintain equal relationship with USA and USSR at one point. But, since USA armed Pakistan to fight USSR in Afghanistan and Pakistan used that situation very well against India, we are forced to side with USSR for support.
Not responding to the overall gist of the comment above, rather to the bolded specifics.US relations generally started with Pakistan after Nehru gained favor with Kruschev, despite the fact that during Chinas border war with India in 1962, John F Kennedy vowed to go to war with China, even going to the nuclear level if they re-opened that conflict. Sadly he was assassinated by an extreme left wing Soviet Union sympathizer, and India continued its capitulation and support of the NAM; a club of tyrants and mass murders, and all the while becoming friendlier to the USSR. There was no push for India to gain ties with the Soviet Union originally, Nehru willingly made those diplomatic ties. Pakistan is perhaps the only country that adopted a friendlier stance to the west in the beginning and the 1971 war would not have seen the US on Pakistans side if not for these facts.
As for Afganistan; the US supported the Afghan mujahideen with the help of Pakistan against the homicidal Soviet invasion which led to the deaths and displacement of millions of people. India did not have to side with anyone in that conflict as it had little to do with them, but they chose to side with Russians yet again, largely due to the NAM nonsense.
If NAM was a club of tyrants and murderers, members of NATO, CEATO and SENTO were no saints either!support of the NAM; a club of tyrants and mass murders
Nehru was a Socialist to start with. But the tilt of India as a nation took place later.Nehru willingly made those diplomatic ties.
This is exactly how the west ended up supporting numerous tyrants and mass murderers.Pakistan is perhaps the only country that adopted a friendlier stance to the west in the beginning
India's choice to support the Russians or rather not to support the US and Pakistanis, in this particular instance, IMO should be a no-brainer!India did not have to side with anyone in that conflict as it had little to do with them, but they chose to side with Russians yet again,