Ask India to Stop Iran's Bomb

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    Ask India to Stop Iran's Bomb

    In the Israeli newspaper Haaretz today, Kapil Komireddi argues that mining the historically respectful relationship between India and Iran may be the best way to talk Iran out of a nuclear weapon:

    Israel and its supporters in the West are agitated by India’s engagement with Iran, a country they regard as an irredeemable rogue state. Washington's decision to exempt India from financial sanctions on Iranian oil imports, just over a week ago, means that New Delhi continues to have a significant trading relationship with Tehran. But far from being an obstacle to peace, India’s friendship with Tehran can benefit Israel—and avert a war.
    In the current staring contest in which U.S.-Iranian talks can't do enough and an invasion is far too costly, India's position as a trusted Israeli/American and Iranian partner could be key in forging a deal:
    The spectrum of ideas in dealing with Iran cannot be stuck between sanctions and strikes. The results of Israel relying wholly on its traditional Western allies in its effort to stem Iran’s march are plain to see, and disappointing to say the least. Israel must now start conscripting new friends to take its cause forward. At the very least, India can be a more effective peace broker than the EU. Israelis display an almost inexplicable reluctance to push India to do anything. But it’s time they realised that, as India’s reliable friends, they have earned the right to demand assistance.
     
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    Israel, use India to pressure Iran
    Israel has a tremendous fund of goodwill in India, a country that has arguably more leverage with Iran than the European powers that Israel is expending so much effort to cultivate as mediators. Israel should be more forthright in cultivating India as a major influencer on Iran to halt its nuclear ambitions.

    Israel and its supporters in the West are agitated by India’s engagement with Iran, a country they regard as an irredeemable rogue state. Washington's decision to exempt India from financial sanctions on Iranian oil imports, just over a week ago, means that New Delhi continues to have a significant trading relationship with Tehran. But far from being an obstacle to peace, India’s friendship with Tehran can benefit Israel – and avert a war. Here’s how.

    For over four decades, India and Israel, two of Asia’s most resilient democracies, found themselves on the opposing sides of every debate. Eager to placate Arab opinion in its contest against Islamic Pakistan, India refused to establish full diplomatic relations with Israel until 1992. Israeli diplomats considered Mumbai, where they had a tiny consulate, “the loneliest post in the world”. India had no presence in Israel at all. The 35,000 or so Israelis of Indian origin were forced to obtain visas to travel to India through third countries.

    Astonishingly, not only were Israelis unmindful of India’s shabby treatment of them – they conducted themselves as New Delhi’s allies whenever India got into trouble. In 1962, when Mao’s China waged war against India, Israel offered clandestine support to India. This trend continued through India’s wars with Pakistan in 1965 and 1971. But it was only after the 1999 conflict with Pakistan over Kargil that India openly acknowledged Israel’s support.

    Today, India is Israel’s closest eastern ally and its largest arms market. Annual non-military trade between the two countries exceeds $4.5bn. Israel’s tenacity in dealing with its adversaries has many admirers in India. A survey by the Israeli foreign ministry in 2009 found India – once a bastion of anti-Israeli sentiment – to be the most pro-Israeli country on earth, well above the United States.

    Israel has a tremendous fund of goodwill in India. And India arguably has more leverage with Tehran than all the powers presently gathered in Moscow. Yet Israel chooses to mediate with Iran through Europe’s decaying powers, players that Tehran is adept at hoodwinking, while delegating the task of influencing Indian policy on Tehran to the United States.

    This approach is bound to fail for two reasons. First, after having armed, financed and indulged Pakistan for five decades, Washington’s lectures on global responsibility sound risible to Indian ears. Second, despite its recent alignment with the West, India is fiercely protective of its independence – and nothing irks Indians more than being told what to do. As the Indian author MJ Akbar once wrote, “Indians do not make good stenographers. They simply do not like taking dictation”.

    But where American advances yield resentment, Israeli appeals can generate genuine sympathy. Indians can readily identify with a fellow democracy that is a victim of terrorism and fears nuclear annihilation at the hands of a neighbouring theocracy devoted to its destruction. Besides, India has a personal interest in keeping nuclear weapons out of Iran’s reach. A successful launch by Iran will prompt other powers to go nuclear. Saudi Arabia will almost certainly buy an off-the-shelf bomb from Pakistan. The current turmoil in West Asia makes it impossible to predict the nature of the regimes that lie ahead. A deeply unstable region with multiplying nuclear states threatens India’s future as severely as it does Israel’s. This is the case Israel must make to New Delhi.

    Israel must remain mindful of the fact that though India may share its fears, it cannot and will not support military action against Iran, a country with which India shares strong civilizational bonds. (Iran to many Indians is roughly what England is to Americans: the source of high culture, language and religion.)

    But New Delhi has enough leverage with Tehran to effect an honest negotiation. India has gone out of its way to protect Iran’s reputation after Iranian agents carried out a terrorist attack against Israeli diplomats stationed in New Delhi. Critics of Iran balk at the idea of further talks. It is difficult to fault their stance because, as they rightly point out, Tehran has often used negotiations to buy more time for its weapons programme.

    Still, the spectrum of ideas in dealing with Iran cannot be stuck between sanctions and strikes. The results of Israel relying wholly on its traditional Western allies in its effort to stem Iran’s march are plain to see, and disappointing to say the least. Israel must now start conscripting new friends to take its cause forward. At the very least, India can be a more effective peace broker than the EU. Israelis display an almost inexplicable reluctance to push India to do anything. But it’s time they realised that, as India’s reliable friends, they have earned the right to demand assistance.

    Kapil Komireddi is an Indian writer.
     
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    I don't think anyone can impress Ahmedinajad.
     
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    It's high time Israel should launch surgical attack on Iran before it's too late. We don't need another country having nuke.

    One thing is sure, a tiny country Israel is more than enough for whole Middle-east! :rofl:
     
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    the demand of stopping Irans nuclear programme is naive at best....it is actually causing a rise in national pride even among moderates in Iran...

    a way India can help Iran is to enrich uranium in India...tarapur is best for it....its a win win situation for both....but as u rightly pointed out....impressing Ahmadinejad is a daunting task...!!
     
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    Finally someone realizes that India can be a good mediator. First step taken. Let's get a concerted effort here and get some results.
     
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    They are lucky to have a very powerful ally watching their back!

    I daresay if India was as lucky, there would be no pakistani headache!
     
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    What would happen if Iran were to get nukes?
     
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    This Ziodrama will never end. Let the Israelis deal with their own issues, they're the ones instigating the entire conflict. This shit has nothing to do with India, and india is no position to persuade Iran from pursuing civilian nuclear energy when Iran has already tolerated so many crippling sanctions.

    Iran has every right to civilian nuclear energy, theocracy or democracy.
     
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    Its an Indian writers opinion peice. No one has realized jack. Why would Israel trust India, when we ourselves dont have the spine to confront our problems?

    The solution in Iran depends on whether the tollahs can be replaced by sane citizens of that country. But of course this would be detrimental to India Iran relations as the removal of the tollahs means another American stooge in the gulf.
     
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    First of all, let's not kid ourselves. Even if Iran actually had nukes and the means to deliver them, they are not going to launch them on Israel.

    Secondly, it is high time India started putting pressure on Iran to give up its nukes, but then, how will India assure Iran that they will not be invaded by Israel or the US? Iran does have a lot of oil. Israel or no Israel, I do not see why Iran should not seek to build its deterrence, given what happened to Iraq and Libya. Saudi Arabia is also complicit in funding armed gangs and bandits in Syria, a key ally of Iran, and the West is trying to intervene there as well. Iran's fears are not unfounded.

    This is all a mess. I don't see any solution. Best is Iran and Israel both have their nukes, and peace shall prevail.
     
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    If Iran will get nuke then they will rise their nuke everytime to israel, ksa etc.. same as paki, they will find all the time reason to fire their nuke.
     
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    I don't understand what you're trying to say, sorry.


    The ideal scenario is that no one in the world has nukes. But since that scenario is basically impossible, the next best scenario is that every regional power has nukes to maintain global stability. Iran doesn't want a repeat of Iraq on its own territory.
     
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    If Iran were to get a device, they would not talk about it. They would put together at least 10 devices before testing one. Else the minute they test, the Israelis will take out all their facilities. So they would want a few warheads to warn Israel off any strike.
    After the initial round of sanctions and the dust settles, Iran will then get Syria as well as Hezbollah/Hamas to step up proxy attacks on Israel, all the while putting together more warheads until a time when they are convinced that full scale conventional war can be waged against Israel by Lebanon, Syria, Egypt and Iran. Israel will not be able to go nuclear considering even 15 warheads will absolutely demolish them and they are just plain outnumbered and perhaps outgunned this time around. Unkil always has a say in this matter but whatever the outcome, Israel will suffer the most as it is just too small.

    All of this is considering status quo of the Iranian leadership.
     
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    what happens if Iran gets nuclear bomb??

    may be it can pass the necessary technology to every friendly Muslim country.this puts Israel at a grave danger and america will loose its superiority in this region.
     
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    That is exactly why Israel is in panic mode. They can't afford to let the situation escalate. Specially after seeing that Iran has been playing well at stalling the International community's pressure.

    Regards,
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    KSA and her Arab allies from GCC will have sleepless night. They are next door neighbours. KSA King tried to twist Iran's President arm but did not succeed.
    The year was 2007 during his haj pilgrimage.
     

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