Army warns PM: China can deploy 500,000 troops on LAC

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    Army warns PM: China can deploy 500,000 troops on LAC
    China now has the capability to deploy and sustain more than half-a-million troops for over a month on the Line of Actual Control (LAC) in case of a high threat scenario with India.
    Combining deft defence diplomacy with India’s neighbours and major infrastructure upgradation in restive Xinjiang and Tibet, Beijing is expected to be increasingly assertive towards New Delhi and may put pressure on Arunachal Pradesh in near future.
    This threat perception and assessment in the form of a presentation in South Block was given to Prime Minister Manmohan Singh, Defence Minister A K Antony, National Security Adviser S S Menon, Principal Secretary T K Nair and Defence Secretary Pradeep Kumar by the Indian military brass last month.
    While the government is tight-lipped about the presentation, the military brass told the PM that Chinese PLA has acquired the capability to deploy 34 troop divisions (one division has 23,000 troops) along the LAC in case of a high threat scenario by pulling out troops from Chengdu and Lanzhou military regions. When compared to the Indian strength of nine holding divisions along the northern borders, the PLA with a defence budget estimated at $150 billion holds overwhelming advantage.
     
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    ^^^^^

    Link please?
     
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    Sorry for that. Link is added now.
     
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    Thank you SHASH2K2...
     
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    nitesh Mob Control Manager Stars and Ambassadors

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    But how much time it will take to station all those troops in the area? Will they all be assimilated to the conditions?
     
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    This figure of Chinese army is awesome and bad news for us. We have no reason to doubt on the capability of PLA. PLA can do so with the kind of infrastructure they have developed over a period of time with the armored personnel carriers & military air transport assets in good numbers.

    Numbers in terms of personnel & weapon system has always been the strength of PLA. Now the question is how are we going to counter them. We can not match them by numbers.
     
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    15,000 a troops a day. Once C-17's arrive we should be able to exceed this number. This may be put out to make the sale.
     
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    After stride 2009 it was established that China have big airlift capability,China wont continuously deploy such a big force on LAC,their immediate priorities dont lie here,there force will only swing in the hour of need.
     
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    The Chinese are not going to invade India. These articles are designed to keep the Indians focused on some enemy while the economy falls apart and food prices goes through the roof. To make these paranoid people sleep better at night, if they were really serious about invading India, you will see massive growth in its navy and transports. Neither has happened because China is not interested getting stuck in India for a decade of nation building while blowing things up at the same time. The US was brought down by 3 trillion of debt in less than a decade and other costs as high as 4-5 trillion. I expect fewer wars in the future because as Gates famously said any secretary of defense needs to have head examined if he talks any more about land wars.
     
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    Please allow me to ask a question: what can china gain from this deployment? Some rocks?

    Neither side wants to fight in this area in a mass scale. Can't these indian experts get something else to do?
     
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    No, you will not gain anything, stop living in dream world
     
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    where is AGNI-5 when we need it?
     
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    I can tell you the poor of this country won't even have time or bother to read what's happening at the border and afaik we in India do not play the paranoia game like in USA...
    Everyone here knows politicians are the scum of the earth,but i believe that India with its peaceful dogma has long sabotaged itself its high time to build a strong force to counter and deter potential enemies.
    As the saying goes "let him who desire peace prepare for war"
     
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    Communists are taught to use organised propaganda. chinese would do everything possible to scare india to commit economic resources for defense against china. china dont want india to match with her in terms of economical growth and wants herself to be the only player in the neighbourhood.

    having a war with india would be damaging to both china and india, so china will play to the limit and not commit to the actual war.

    when china has pakistan to counter weigh india, why china needs to commit itself to the dirty game?
     
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    I agree. But the IA, Government and strategists have to identify the fine line between the real needs of minimum defense and the paranoia created to prompt unneccesary spending. Another thing which holes into the national pockets in the name of defense is the trend of importing/buying almost everything that is required by the armed forces. It leads to massive corruption. Very obvious that our ministers and babus are always looking for ways to setup huge import deals and have their cut. Its a dangerous trend.


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    This is a classic textbook case of yellow journalism.

    Unfortunately, such articles are necessary, because otherwise our babus won't be bothered to do anything about border infrastructure and military modernization, among other things.
     
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    Army presents three-point plan to counter China



    Army chief General V.K. Singh has presented a three-pronged strategy to counter China's growing presence in the Tibet Autonomous Region and its recent activities in Pakistan-occupied Kashmir (PoK).

    The proposal came at a recent meeting with Prime Minister Manmohan Singh that was attended by the army chief as well as top bosses of the security establishment.

    Singh pitched for a dedicated mountain strike corps, significant enhancement in the army's tactical airlift capability and improvement in the border infrastructure.

    The army had long been pushing for the proposal, which were caught in a bureaucratic cobweb. The move follows inputs from intelligence agencies that China has continued upgrading its border infrastructure.

    The army wants the proposals cleared soon as it is concerned over the growing nexus between Pakistan and China in the northern areas of Gilgit and Baltistan.

    After strengthening its position on the line of actual control, China is now trying to develop a commanding presence closer to the line of control between India and Pakistan in Jammu and Kashmir. China has been given access to PoK by Islamabad to take up infrastructure projects in a big way. China's capacity to swiftly deploy a large number of troops at the border has forced the government to draw up a counter strategy.

    The army's plan to form a mountain strike corps would be in addition to two new divisions already coming up in the north east. The three existing strike corps are based in the plains and focused on Pakistan.

    Sources said the proposal could cost the government around Rs 12,000 crore. The focus will be on developing highly agile and flexible formations which could be mobilised rapidly.

    The urgency to get the proposal cleared is greater as it would take years for the formation to take shape.

    The army has also sought approval to strengthen its tactical airlift capability. It wants to have its own transport helicopters in addition to that of the Indian Air Force. Sources said the army was unimpressed with the performance of homemade advanced light helicopters.

    The proposal also stressed the need to speed up existing border infrastructure projects and to take up new programmes like adding more airports in the north east and preparing advanced landing grounds. The Border Roads Organisation has undertaken 39 projects on the Sino-Indian border to increase connectivity.
     
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    You know what all this would be good I'd we had our own advanced military industrial complex. We would jot go bankrupt but instead create a big industry with a lot of allied industries taking shape, jobs etc.

    Unfortunately to arm ourselves to defend, we have to rely on imports which does not do any good for our economy.
     
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    Army warns PM about China- PM quietly fiddles humming 'Aaal iiiz bhailll'
     
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    Ray The Chairman Defence Professionals Moderator

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    India should concentrate on the insurgencies with China to offset their numerical advantage and tie up half their forces when the time comes.

    War is not merely fighting on the frontlines.
     
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