Army suspects role of Pak's Special Services Group in LoC attack

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  1. Abhijeet Dey

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    Army suspects role of Pak's Special Services Group in LoC attack
    Press Trust of India, 8 Aug 2013

    NEW DELHI: The audacious attack on Indian troops in the Poonch sector on the line of control (LoC) in which five jawans were killed is likely to have been carried out by Pakistan's Special Services Group (SSG) along with terrorists.

    The operatives of the Musa company of the SSG, which is tasked for carrying out such 'hit' operations, may have carried out the attack, Army sources said on Thursday.

    In his fresh statement in Parliament on Thursday, defence minister AK Antony said that as per the information available with the Army "specialist troops" of the Pakistan army were involved in the attack.

    According to the Indian Army, the SSG comprises seven battalions along with four company level formations. Musa company specializes in amphibious operations and tasks in riverine areas.

    In the January attack in which one Indian Army jawan was beheaded by the Pakistan army teams, SSG troops had taken part in the operations along with LeT terrorists.

    The SSG leads the Border Action Teams of Pakistan army which also includes terrorist elements.
     
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    @Ray

    Sir, have the Pak. Navy's SSG been used in such type of ops.

    How radical,anti-India are the PN,PAF compared to the PA?
     
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    I would not be surprised if they are being used.

    That the Pakistanis are radical is obvious.
     
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    Does it mean that they also helped train Ajmal Kasab and other terrorists (26/11 Mumbai attacks) for amphibious operations? There is also a SSG (Navy) section.
     
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    They did but indirectly. Two brothers Captain Khurram Ashiq and Major Haroon Ashiq both who were in the SSG, left the service after the PA siding with the US after 9/11. Khurram joined LeT after 2003 and previously was an Assault commander in the "Zarrar" Counter-Terrorism unit of the SSG. He himself said to a Pakistani journalist that another soldier(not an officer) from the SSG post retirement changed the urban warfare part of Lashkar training, which was later used in the attack in Kalu Chak massacre in 2002.

    While Khurram died in 2007 in Helmand,Afghanistan, Haroon was close to Zaki-ur-Rahman Lakhvi and Iliyas Kashmiri. They had known of an ISI plan for some proxy attack in India via the LeT but it remained in the pipeline and was later dropped off, the plan was later given life again by Kashmiri and it was Haroon's plan to hijack an Indian fishing trawler to reach Mumbai. Haroon was also part of the group that killed former SSG Head, Maj. Gen. Amir Faisal Alvi.

    I read about all this in Syed Saleem Shahzad's book, it seems the trend in the PA,ISI etc is that if you want to side with the jihadis do not directly,leave and join them. This way the people are in no way connected directly to the military,ISI and some sort of support can be received.

    These two links may also help:
    http://www.atimes.com/atimes/South_Asia/NC21Df02.html
    http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Ameer_Faisal_Alavi
     
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    So Pakistan Army has deployed SSG commandos for terrorist operations against India. What if we deploy Indian Army Para Commandos along the LOC?

    I have heard Indian Navy's MARCOS are deployed near Jhelum River and Wular Lake in J&K to stop infiltration.
     
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    Para(SF) has been deployed in that area, the Hindu has reported that "sources" have told them about cross border Indian SF raids. Yesterday in our Paki counterpart forum, one of the sane Paki members did say "Indian Army has a habit of settling the score quickly and with interest", he also mentioned something about Salala.

    MARCOS had and have this role in the Wular area, it may have been expanded but not much is known due to the secrecy surrounding both Army SF and MARCOS
    operations in Kashmir.

    The terrorists are from what I have been told, very afraid of both SF units especially the Army SF.

    Now coming back to the SSG part, like I said its very unclear because:

    1)Either its SSG+Terrorists combined in the LOC area, mostly when one of theirs(any PA soldier) goes down when they themselves commit ceasefire violations.
    2)Either its these ex-SSG's in terrorist ranks.
    3)Could also be all of the above.

    The Naval SSG role is quite unclear, the Army SSG is what seems to be the supreme SF in the Pak. arsenal. The Army SSG has units that conduct amphibious ops like the SSG(N).
     
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    Foreign level Training with Pakistan SSG

    1. SSG conducts bi-annual "Ataturk" series exercises with the Turkish Special Forces.

    2. During the 1980s and then into the 1990s, SSG held many similar training exercises with US Special Forces called "Inspired Venture".

    3. The SSG also conducts exercises with Chinese special forces.

    4. SSG has also been reported to train with the Jordanian Royal Special Forces and Iranian Quds Force and conducts training for special forces of other Middle Eastern countries at Cherat Hill Station of Khyber-Pakhtunkhwa in Pakistan.

    5. It is thought that a number of SSG operators are stationed in Saudi Arabia for the protection of the Saudi royal family.
     
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    farhan_9909 Tihar Jail Banned

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    SSG has much more to do than killing a couple of indian soldiers

    at best even if let say PA is involved than must be the foot soldiers only
     
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    u still think PA is not involved? u think even a bird can fly on LOC without pak army knowledge or help
     
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    26/11 Mumbai attackers used small boats to infiltrate Mumbai. Next time I think they may use Pakistani submarines such as Agosta class to sneak in would-be Kasabs to India given the radicalization of Pak forces nowadays.
     
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    farhan_9909 Tihar Jail Banned

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    Agosta90b cost pre 2000 when the deal was signed was 3 for 1.2billion dollars or 400million each

    well indians lives are not worth 400million dollars.your simply over rating them.
     

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