Army rushes more troops as Pakistan intensifies cross-border shelling

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    Army rushes more troops as Pakistan intensifies cross-border shelling in Jammu & Kashmir - The Times of India

    NEW DELHI/JAMMU: ​The Indian Army has rushed more troops towards the line of control and the international border as Pakistani troops have intensified cross-border shelling in Jammu & Kashmir, Times Now reported. The report also said senior generals are also visiting area to oversee the redeployment of troops in affected areas.

    Earlier on Saturday, defence minister Arun Jaitley said ceasefire violations by Pakistan in Jammu & Kashmir across the international border (IB) and the line of control (LoC) have increased in recent months.

    He also said Indian forces are responding effectively to protect the country's interests. According to Times Now, there have been over 20 ceasefire violations in the past two weeks.

    Talking to reporters in Visakhapatnam at the commissioning function of antisubmarine warfare corvette INS Kamorta into the Navy, Jaitley said, "This is a fact that of late, these ceasefire violations by Pakistan have increased. But let everybody be assured that both our Army and BSF, who are respectively guarding the line of control and the international border, are fully vigilant."

    "They effectively respond to each violation and I have full faith and the country must have full faith that they are effectively protecting both our territory and national interest," he added.

    His comments come on a day when Pakistani troops indulged in heavy "unprovoked" shelling and firing on 22 border outposts and 13 villages, killing two civilians and injuring six others including a Border Security force jawan along the international border in Jammu sector.

    Ceasefire violation by Pakistan kills 2 civilians

    The BSF said Pakistan Rangers opened a heavy round of fire in the early hours of Saturday morning and targeted at least 22 Border Security Forces posts in Arnia and RS Pura sector in Jammu district.

    "Pakistan Rangers resorted to heavy mortar shelling and firing of automatic weaponry on at least 22 border outposts (BoPs) and also civilian areas along IB in Arnia and Ranbir Singh Pura sub-sectors of Jammu district from 12.30am (0030hrs) hours today (Saturday). Initially, the BSF observed restrain but later heavy firing prompted retaliation using similar calibre of arsenal and exchange of fire lasted till 7am (0700hrs)," a BSF official said.

    "The fire from heavy to medium machine gun and mortar shelling injured six people including one BSF constable while a father and his minor son died when a mortar shell exploded on the roof of their hutment in Jora farm locality near the India-Pakistan Border, the BSF official added.

    The deceased have been identified namely as Akram Hussain, s/o Shah Din and his minor son Aslam, while three other family members namely Kari Bibi mother of Akram, Bibi, w/o Akarm and son Yunus, 3, were injured when a Pakistani shell exploded inside their house at Jora farm, official sources said adding, "One BSF constable namely Shri Krishan, s/o Hem Singh of Uttrakhand presently posted with 192 BSF bn also sustained bullet injuries."

    The injured were rushed to Government Medical College & Hospital (GMC&H) Jammu where they are being treated.

    This was the heaviest unprovoked and indiscriminate firing and shelling by Pakistan Rangers this year along the IB in Jammu frontier in violation of the ceasefire agreement November 2003. Prior to this, Pakistan also violated the ceasefire on August 17/18 in Arnia Subsector and RS Pura Sector along the IB in Jammu targeting at least 20 Indian posts by heavy firing using small arms, automatics and mortars in which a civilian got injured while two houses damaged and two cattle were killed and six injured in Trewa village of Arnia.

    Heavy Pakistan firing at forward posts and civilian areas along International Border has triggered panic among the people living there and Saturday's shelling left people adversely affected in forward villages of Sia, Jora farm, Treva, Nikowal, Abdullian, Korotana, Korotana Khurd, Vidhipur and Vidhipur Jattan.

    When contacted, divisional commissioner, Jammu, Shant Manu said, "People from three/four villages numbering thousands have been shifted to safer places while many of the youth and males preferred to live at their respective places."

    He said they (people) have been evacuated by the district administration in view of their safety and were housed in safe shelters and government buildings identified by the district administration to protect civilians from Pakistani firing as a part of the contingency plan.

    He also added that the administration and police official were camping in RS Pura and have made arrangements for accommodating the border villagers.

    Fear of cross-border tunnel near LoC?

    The Indian Army found a secret tunnel dug about 50 metres in the forward area of Chakla along Munawar Tawi in Pallanwalla sector of Jammu district after land caved in during the recent heavy rain in the area.

    Sources said the tunnel was found some 50 metres inside the Indian side cutting across the border from Pakistan and it was detected during routine patrolling. Sources, however, added that the Army has cordoned off the area and even has not allowed senior police officials there.

    However, Army authorities denied reports about the tunnel saying that no such tunnel was detected. "It was an ordinary ditch along (Bundh) the embankment, which had been washed away due to recent flash floods," they added.

    Meanwhile, sources said, "This seems to be the new strategy adopted by Pakistan for facilitating the infiltration of militants because of alert troops along the LoC and IB successfully thwarting infiltration bids by intruders."

    This is not the first instance that such a secret tunnel was exposed in the forward areas of Jammu region. A couple of years back, a tunnel dug about 500 metres inside the Indian territory from Pakistan was detected in Chichwal of Hiranagar sector.

    On May 4, this year, the Border Security Force (BSF) authorities handed over a protest note to Pakistan Rangers over the tunnel issue which was detected in Samba District, near the International Border (IB), which is the latest alignment point of the 400-metre-long cross-border tunnel which was found in July 2012.

    Past tunnels

    A caved-in portion of a 3X3 tunnel in Chillyari border belt in Samba District was found 23 metres away, inside Indian territory, from pillar number 170 on "Zero Line" at the international border when BSF took up clearing of the thick and tall bushes along the Zero-line.

    This was believed to be the latest alignment point of the 400-metre-long cross-border tunnel which was found along the International Border in 2012.

    Pertinent to mention here is the fact that a joint team of Geological Survey of India and BSF, during excavation, had unearthed total length of about 540 metres of tunnel, dug into the Indian side, cutting across Pakistan from the Zero Line on August 8, 2012.

    This secret tunnel hit the media limelight after a local farmer detected it on the evening of July 27, 2012, while working in his field at Chichwal when he saw the land sunk at three straight points due to monsoon rains.

    Before this, the Army had also detected a secret tunnel in August 4, 2009, when heavy rain led to caving in of this tunnel along the LoC in Pallanwala sector of Akhnoor.

    This tunnel in J&K was believed to aid the infiltration of militants and the transport of ammunition from across the border and was intersecting the vicinity of Pakistan's Mango Post and the PP2 Post on the Indian side. The existence of the tunnel was discovered when interrogating a Lashkar terrorist captured from Kupwara.

    If recalled, the commander of 16 Corps, Lieutenant General KH Singh had recently stated that about 150 to 200 militants were planning to infiltrate into the Indian territory from the LoC.
     
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    Re: Army rushes more troops as Pakistan intensifies cross-border shell

    Bakistani story

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    Pakistan suggests urgent DGMOs meeting to India after ceasefire violation: Aziz - Pakistan - DAWN.COM

    ISLAMABAD: While strongly rejecting Indian allegations of ceasefire violations, Pakistan on Saturday suggested India to hold an urgent meeting of the two countries' Director General Military Operations (DGMOs) in order to discuss the situation and halt firing along the working boundary and the Line of Control (LoC).

    Earlier today, firing by Indian Border Security Forces (BSF) personnel along the working boundary killed at least two people, including a woman, and injured four others in Sialkot.

    In Charwa and Chaparral sectors of Sialkot, heavy weapons and mortar shells were fired early in the morning. Chenab Rangers retaliated and the exchange of fire continued till 7am.

    Official sources said unprovoked firing by Indian troops on the working boundary near Sialkot has been continuing for the past many weeks.

    "Today (Saturday) again, Indian BSF personnel resorted to unprovoked firing in Chaparral and Harpal sectors on the working boundary near Sialkot which resulted in the death of two civilians, a woman and a 60-year-old-man," a Pakistani military official said.

    “Intermittent exchange of fire is still continuing at this moment,” the official said.

    A woman named Nazia was killed while her two daughters were severely injured in the attack. Several houses were also damaged and a number of livestock were killed.

    Ceasefire violations along the Line of Control (LoC) and working boundary between Pakistan and India continue intermittently, with casualties reported on both sides.

    "DGMOs of both countries should meet immediately discuss ways and means to stop the current spate of firing along the working boundary and Pakistan is also sending a proposal to India for the meeting,” Adviser on National Security and Foreign Affairs Sartaj Aziz told Dawn.

    Expressing concern over what he called unprovoked Indian firing by BSF personnel, Aziz said the issue was affecting bilateral ties and peace in the region.

    Rejecting Indian allegations of sending militants via the tunnel operating from the Pakistani side, Aziz said if India has any evidence, it should share that with Pakistan as indulging in blame games wouldn’t help.

    Aziz recalled that the last meeting of DGMOs between the two countries helped in normalising the situation along the LoC and the working boundary and would be helpful again.
     
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    Re: Army rushes more troops as Pakistan intensifies cross-border shell

    It is time for India to bomb these bastards and put an end to ongoing violations of cease fire. I hope Modi does walk the talk as soon as possible.
     
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    Re: Army rushes more troops as Pakistan intensifies cross-border shell

    Pretty interesting stuff, isn't it?

    India calls off talks with Pakistan, and now this shelling, and the usual blame game.

    I say, India should constantly keep the artillery barrage against Pakistan. They cannot exhaust India in terms of manpower and war materiel, but we can exhaust them, and their resources. This is also going to be good practise for our artillery troops. Make life hell for the Pakistani Rangers, and give them "1000 years" of continued artillery bombardment.
     
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    Re: Army rushes more troops as Pakistan intensifies cross-border shell

    Pakistaniyo ka in punjabi we say" makhu thapao""
     
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    Re: Army rushes more troops as Pakistan intensifies cross-border shell

    Shelling didn't start all of sudden, it's been going on from both ends for two months now. Several civilians have died at our side of the border in Sialkot sector.
    It is not yet an intensified conflict, both parties can go on like this for a very long time.
     
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    Re: Army rushes more troops as Pakistan intensifies cross-border shell

    Civilians getting hurt or killed is really unfortunate.

    I would not comment on who started this. India, AFAIAC, has no choice but to continue to discourage covering fire or shelling that Pakistan uses to help infiltrators move into territory under Indian control.
     
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    Re: Army rushes more troops as Pakistan intensifies cross-border shell

    Why would Pakistan use a heavily militarised sector to provoke India? We don't want war, neither of us can afford to have one.
     
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    Re: Army rushes more troops as Pakistan intensifies cross-border shell

    Indian govt. took the right step by cancelling the talks... I am glad India is in safe hands of dedicated, selfless nation loving patriotic leaders ...As for Pakistan...it seems they are on a slow motion suicide path...the infighting is unprecedented and any day it can get out of control...then what? ..DEJA VU...
    another miltary General comes on Pak TV and declares himself "CEO" of Pakistan. India needs to watch out for another "Kargil" stabbing in the back. History keeps repeating itself.
     
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    Re: Army rushes more troops as Pakistan intensifies cross-border shell

    Can you back your claims with some proof of civilians dieng in your area?
    (Recent and not years before)
     
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    Re: Army rushes more troops as Pakistan intensifies cross-border shell

    We can afford a war unlike pakistan. We have a strong economy and much powerful and strong ARMED FORCES than pakistan. So, please don't include us with you........
     
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    Re: Army rushes more troops as Pakistan intensifies cross-border shell

    Indian BSF BOMBS all the pakistani posts which are along the border.......

    No casualties from the Indian side, BSF has no information about the other side of the border.........

    Poor pakistani army is begging for DGMO talks......:pound: :pound: :pound: :pound: :pound:
     
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    Re: Army rushes more troops as Pakistan intensifies cross-border shell

    Pakistan violates ceasefire again, targets 25 BSF posts in J&K - The Times of India

    JAMMU: The Pakistan rangers today continued to use long range weapons to target the Border Security Force (BSF) posts and villages in RS Pura and Arnia sectors near the international border in Jammu district, police said.

    "Pakistan rangers used long range weapons to target almost all the BSF border outposts in RS Pura and Arnia in addition to villages close to the border in these areas," a senior police officer said.

    "Pakistan firing started at 10pm last night and continued intermittently during the night. They fired at 12 BSF outposts in RS Pura and 10 in Arnia sectors," he added.

    "Since Pakistan rangers are using long range weapons, 28 villages in these areas are directly in the line of Pakistan fire."

    "BSF troops are effectively retaliating and intermittent firing is still on," he said.

    Jammu divisional commissioner Shantmanu said the administration is prepared to accommodate at safer places possible migrants from border villages in these areas.

    "We are ready to meet any eventuality. Our contingency plans are in place to provide all possible relief to people who might move out of their villages if tensions escalate," the official said.

    Although the state government says only 1,000 villagers have so far moved out to safer accommodations, eye-witnesses in these areas say over 3,000 villagers have taken shelter at safe places out of villages in RS Pura and Arnia areas in Jammu.
     
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    Re: Army rushes more troops as Pakistan intensifies cross-border shell

    India can definately afford war unlike pak; but we gotta keep in mind we cant afford its consequences. Thers just too much to loose in full scaled war. I would rather prefer continous ceasefire voilations and proxy wars from our end.
     
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    Re: Army rushes more troops as Pakistan intensifies cross-border shell

    It's ur army who has evil plans to take control of Pakistan . They need India excuse again to fool ur jahil awaam. Ur civil govt is falling and soft or hard coup means end of aid from world over.
     
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    Re: Army rushes more troops as Pakistan intensifies cross-border shell

    the political situation in pakistan is quite conducive for another coup, many things might play spoilsport for its nacent democracy.
    what with tahir quadri and Imran khan (they might have backing of military establishments or ISI atleast).
    the current ceasefire on IB and LOC are just to divert the minds of naive pakis (who are easily distracted, as the History has shown) away from crisis at home.
    and it may be a plan to bring India to dialogue after Indian Govt cancelled the bilateral talks.
    but the current tension at boder is mostly due to pakis crisis at home, either Nawaj shariff or Pak army wants to score browny points on fight against India
     
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    Lathon kaa bhooth bathonko nahi mantha, please continue with Gun, mortars, indian field gun etc. BSF is given free hand from home ministry

    India should not engage on any talk till pakistan stops ceasefire violation
     
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