Army Coup in Pakistan just around the corner ?

[Arunpillai]

Kayani and Pasha has very little options right now.. A Coup is definitely not a option.. Nobody will support it nor US nor Saudi nor Britain and neither is support of public or political parties in favour.. And with Americans in ground in AfPak , controlling Pak's credit lines and openly supporting Gilani and Zardari., Kayani's best option right now is Pakistan Supreme Court.

 

[bhramos]

Pak army 'will not cooperate' with new defence secretary

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n what could add to the growing confrontation between Pakistan's civilian and military leadership, army officials have warned that the army will "notcooperate" with the new defence secretary who was appointed by Prime Minister Yousuf Raza Gilani after he sacked Lt Gen (retd) Naeem Khalid Lodhi."The army will not react violently, but it will not cooperate with the new secretary defence," a military officer was quoted as saying in a ​

New York Times report.The report said military officials have warned that the army would be likely to refuse to work with the newly-appointed Defence Secretary Nargis Sethi, "signaling the possibility of a serious rupture between the army and the civilian government".

Pak army 'will not cooperate' with new defence secretary - Rediff.com News

 

[bhramos]

[h=1]'Firing Lodhi a desperate measure by Pak govt'[/h]

Pakistani analysts said in the report that the firing of Lodhi could be a potentially ominous sign that the festering conflict between the army and the civilian government had reached a critical stage.

"It is a desperate measure," said Ikram Sehgal, a defence analyst and former army officer. "They want the army to react and to make a coup".In a day of fast paced developments in Pakistan, the army warned Gilani of "grievous consequences" for his recent criticism of the military and the Inter-Services Intelligence even as the prime minister sacked the defence secretary over the memo scandal.

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Image: Lt Gen (retd) Naeem Khalid Lodhi was sacked by Pak PM Gilani on Wednesday

Pak army 'will not cooperate' with new defence secretary - Rediff.com News

 

[Daredevil]

Now this gets interesting

Asif Ali Zardari leaves for Dubai: Reports

Pakistani President Asif Ali Zardari left for Dubai on a scheduled one-day trip on Thursday, local television stations reported, amid growing tension over a memo seeking US help in preventing a coup by Pakistan's powerful military.

 

[Daredevil]

Even more interesting...

No assurances against military coup in Pakistan: US

Amid growing tension between the civilian and military leadership in Pakistan, US has said it had not sought or received any assurances from the Pakistani army that it would not stage a coup. "I'm not aware that we've sought any assurances, and I don't think we're aware that we've been given any. This is a matter for Pakistani officials and the government leaders there, military and civilian, to work out," said Navy Capt John Kirby, a Pentagon spokesman.

Meanwhile, Pentagon Press Secretary George Little said US chairman of the Joint Chiefs of Staff, Gen Martin E Dempsey, has spoken to Pakistani Army chief Gen Ashfaq Parvez Kayani.

 

[Singh]

Coups in Pakistan not easy anymore ?

Mr. Razarumi seems to think different.

[h=1]Coups Are Not Easy Anymore[/h]
The civil-militacensoredry faultlcensoredine has been compoucensorednded by the additicensoredon of two new power-brokercensoreds – the courts and the media.


Pakistan has perhaps moved on from 1990s when military takeovers were easier

If there is one phrase that would summarise the events of Wednesday it would be 'media frenzy' caused by the new players in Pakistani politics: The ubiquitous news channels, hyper-imaginative TV anchors and the social media. By early evening, rumours of an impending coup had gripped Pakistani imagination; and many people were led to believe that the end of the government was nigh. The source of this storm was an ISPR press release that expressed military's objection to the contents of Prime Minister Gilani's interview with a Chinese news agency. The PM had implied that the army and intelligence chiefs had acted
unconstitutionally in the memo affair by submitting affidavits directly to the Court. "There can be no allegation more serious than what the honorable prime minister has leveled," stated the ISPR with reference to Gilani's remarks. Further, the ISPR announced that this "has very serious ramifications with potentially grievous consequences for the country."



Shortly thereafter the PM dismissed the Defence Secretary, reportedly close to military leadership, for "gross misconduct and illegal action". The Secretary apparently had bypassed government channels. Most media discussions based on a wild guessing game suggested that the PM might dismiss the ISI and military chiefs. Concurrently, the posting of a new head for the infamous 111 brigade – the coup instrument – by the military was interpreted as a signal that military establishment would react in case of such an eventuality. Thus the stand off between Islamabad and Rawalpindi was detectable. Sections of local media fuelled the tensions and by the evening most international news sources were 'breaking' stories on the heightened civil-military rift in Pakistan. Even the diplomatic missions issued statements making the usual noises about supporting Pakistan's democracy yet vowing not to interfere in its internal affairs.


The widening rift between Zardari led coalition and the Army is not new. It has intensified with the hearing of a petition filed against the memo (asking for US help to prevent a coup) allegedly authored by Pakistan's former Ambassador to the US. The recent verdicts of the Supreme Court on forming a judicial commission to probe the memo affair and more importantly the 6-options laid out for the government to implement its 2010 NRO judgment have made the government jittery.


By the late evening, tensions were somewhat defused as PPP's senior Ministers assured that Gen Kayani would complete his tenure; and the PM talking to media remarked that Kayani had spoken to him before the ISPR press release was issued! Such convenient shifts in positions would seem surreal in any other country but Pakistan's governance patterns are neither rule based nor predictable.


Observers have noted that President Zardari and the government have been playing a game of chess with the Court. That may now be coming to a closure as the hearing on January 16 will be critical given that one of the options is to initiate judicial proceedingss with implied disqualification of senior officials for not complying with court orders. It seems that the government with regard to the military has adopted a similar strategy.


Also on Wednesday, the Chief Justice reiterated his support for democratic system while talking to a delegation. The Judiciary, media and international opinion are aligned against a coup and the government knows it. After dismissing the Defence Secretary it backtracked from the brink. PM Gilani has done it before as well. After his strong remarks against the military in late December he retreated. Both sides have shown the cards they have: the military has the traditional authority, which it has enjoyed since 1950s; and the civilian government is ready to be 'martyred'. The judicature has emerged as an arbiter of sorts.


The government would need to make concessions before the Court for its survival. Wednesday's events suggest that Pakistan has perhaps moved on from 1990s when military takeovers were easier. At the same time, the civil-military faultline has been compounded by the addition of two new power-brokers – the courts and the media. Politicians and the khakis are becoming cognizant of this new reality.


Situationer: Coups are not easy anymore – The Express Tribune

 

[rock127]

Asif Ali Zardari leaves for Dubai

 

[Blackwater]

Asif Ali Zardari leaves for Dubai

not only zardari but few council minister also. No wonder dual citizenship will work now..

 

[lcatejas]

If army will rule the pak.. fark itna padega ki pahle gilani aur zardari bhikh mangte the .. ab kayani magega ...

 

[Mr.Ryu]

Damn it's a pain in ass for every pakistani to see their democratically elected govt run before their 5yr term

 

[Mikkis]

There will be no coup, PPP will complete its term and they will announce election in this yea, probably around August.
PPP and army are on the same page. Even PML Q are with them with MQM and ANP...
Trust on that.
Famous najam sethi also said that.

 

[Blackwater]

Bheeekh is the new word in pak dictionary. In today's parliament session gilani spoke bheekh word at-least 20 times.

From today every child (IF) go to school will learn first word BHEEKH:taunt1::taunt1:

 

[Blackwater]

There will be no coup, PPP will complete its term and they will announce election in this yea, probably around August.
PPP and army are on the same page. Even PML Q are with them with MQM and ANP...
Trust on that.
Famous najam sethi also said that.

yeah ,Who wants to be a captain of sinking and stinking ship

 

[Ray]

Gilani is said to have made up with the military.

Zardari has not flown the coop. He is merely visiting Dubai.

I am sure the US will guide them as usual to a happy end!

 

[Blackwater]

Gilani is said to have made up with the military.

Zardari has not flown the coop. He is merely visiting Dubai.

I am sure the US will guide them as usual to a happy end!

In the end Sam papa helped not chini papa

 

[Ray]

One can't blame the Chinese.

It is there policy not to interfere in the internal affairs of another country.

It is a clever policy since it leaves the option to negotiate and work with anyone who comes to power.

 

[Blackwater]

One can't blame the Chinese.

It is there policy not to interfere in the internal affairs of another country.

It is a clever policy since it leaves the option to negotiate and work with anyone who comes to power.

Sir, It's the army who always be in power...for 65 yrs

 

[Bhadra]

One can't blame the Chinese.

It is there policy not to interfere in the internal affairs of another country.

It is a clever policy since it leaves the option to negotiate and work with anyone who comes to power.

This time around they have (the Chini) clearly supported the Pakistani Military rather than Pakistani Aya Ram and Gaya Ram..

 

[Ray]

China knows that PMs will come and go, but the power with the Pak Army remains forever?!

Is that the reason?

 

[Sikh_warrior]

by taking over, the pak army has more to loose among its people and in the world.

pak army already has lots of headaches and it dont want to take on the running of the country directly!

its happy running the country by remote control, so why take over?

nothing is going to happen between the army and the govt, everything would be sorted out peacefully.

pakistan's taqdeer is such that it will always walk by limping but would never be able to run and be a developed and peacfull country. the political and army systems dont let the country function in a normal way.

the egos of army and govt are too big and often surpass the national interest.

pakistan will never break up on its own, because army and govt benefits from the non functional status of the country and the upper/ruling class makes money and live lavishly.

pakistan should be broken up and de-nuked, and few smaller states carved out of pakistan would benefit the world and the region itself.