Arms seized from Terrorists in J&K in last 22 years enough to raise a large army

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    Arms seized from Terrorists in J&K in last 22 years enough to raise a large army

    SRINAGAR: The quantity of arms and ammunition recovered by security forces from militants in Jammu and Kashmir over the past 22 years is enough to raise an army larger than that of 150 member countries of the United Nations, officials said.

    According to state home department officials, security forces have seized nearly 31,000 AK rifles of various series from the militants and their hideouts in the state since the eruption of militancy in 1990. The security forces have also seized nearly 11,500 pistols, 1,027 universal machine guns, 79 carbines, 219 light machine guns, 69 general purpose machine guns, 295 rifles of .303 make and nearly 400 sniper rifles over the past 22 years. A senior official of the security grid in the state said the arms seized from militants in JK over the years was enough to raise an army of more than 50,000 active personnel.

    "The variety in the arms and ammunition seized in the state - rifles, light and heavy machine guns, carbines, snipers, rockets and launchers - is good enough to raise an army of over 50,000 personnel," he said. According to information posted on Wikipedia, an online encyclopedia, of the total 193 member countries of the UN, only around 40 nations have a regular army strength of over 50,000 personnel.

    The weapons seized from militants in JK also included 2,262 rocket projectile guns, 2,830 rocket boosters, 70,071 AK magazines, 11,055 pistol magazines, 1321 UMG magazines, 150 LMG magazines, 31 carbine magazines and 32 telescopes, used on rifles for better aim, the official said.

    A massive quantity of ammunition for these weapons was also recovered during the counter-insurgency operations which included nearly 40 lakh AK rounds, 2.20 lakh pistol rounds, 1.27 lakh UMG rounds and 1.22 lakh belted ammunition rounds.The security forces also seized tonnes of explosives including nearly 13 ton RDX, over 6,000 IEDs, more than 63,000 grenades and nearly 70,000 detonators.

    Over 43,000 people - 21,500 militants, 16,400 civilians and 5,400 security force personnel - were killed during the past 22 years of turmoil in the state.
     
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    It must be 400 GPMG and 69 sniper rifles, rest is fine..
     
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    Sufficient for Baluch Freedom Fighters.
     
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    Isn't there another thread on this same Subject in the same section?plz merge both..
     
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    Why the army and paramilitary
    Are holding most these massive inventory in their strong rooms?why couldn't they just circulate them to those illequipped state police forces who are battling maoist guerillas still with boltactioned .303s and semiautomatic SLRs?Eventhough the kalshnikovs may be of built in the Fata and MGs were produces in the norinco factory( both of which has a bad reputation ) they are way better than what the police forces are using today..
     
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    Imagine the amount of money that the ISI have snitched from the Saudis.

    But then zakat money is also funneled for terrorist organisation through 'Charitable Trusts' like the ones of Hafeez Saeed.
     
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    0. Most Arms are unreliable.

    1. Army is lacking GPMG and captured PKMs are just doing fine here for few RR units and PARA SF in valley....

    2. Its not in army decision to distribute but from MOD, Its a question for MOD and other..

    3. Army is responsible for Village Defense community and they are using caputed Arms and Ammo ( The good once )..
     
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    I suppose these captured material is very well utilised. Our MHA is importing worth crores of Barettas from Italy !! If thse captured ones are given to CPOs then how will they import?? Still CRPF in valley is using these....
     
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    Eventhough off topic why could't MOD import belt fed GPMGs as they are better than both brens and insas Lmg in CT ops? Why they are still relying on tango to provide a pkm?its the old British military doctrine which forbids military top brass from going in favour of belt fed ones in bipoods citing bekt feds are prone to dust than those with mags.The irony is that British military had altered their military doctrine and are fielding belt fed M240s..
     
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    Importing berettas for BSF and micro tavors for CRPF (most men in both these forces doesnkt even had a better BPJs or good helmets nor hands free commn.eqpmnt)are not going to make any drastic increase in the lethality of their capabilities.but only it is going to increase the bank balance of some people behind these deals.
     
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    Plenty 7.62M43.. :D
     
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    are we gonna use it or not
     
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    I had read some where that majority of these captured m43 ammos are substandard and the gas produced as a result of firing will corrode the barrels of aks.Is that correct? Plus why are army going to replace insas very swiftly as it was introduces only 12 years before and all the small arms has an active service life much more than that.
     
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    well we can use that for them
     
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    There is a serious lack of 7.62m43 ammo in some places, the ammo does work there or atleast at firing range, GRSQ never issued nor Excalibur was chosen for Regulars as its not as per GRSQ, and further no plans for up-gradation of Insas every told by army via GRSQ so ultimately they want whole new system..
     

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