Armored Lion Lt Gen retd Tariq Khan

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  1. Zarvan

    Zarvan Regular Member

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    Copied from post by Lt Gen retd Tariq Khan on WhatsApp:


    The Indians keep talking of having got hold of damning evidence in the Dinanagar Case. Let's examine it and I do not think our intelligence needs me to defend them. First, it is obvious that it is not in Pakistan's interest to escalate matters now but it is in India's interest to create some sort of a confusion for the following reasons:

    1. Pakistan is about to take the India to the cleaners in the Baluchistan matter in the Security Council.

    2. Apparently some progress was being made in the Afghan reconciliation which at its conclusion is not likely to allow an Indian role in Afghanistan.

    3. The CPEC and it's effects.

    4. The uprising of the Sikhs in Punjab.

    5. The MQM factor and stabilisation of Karachi.

    These are some of the major points to consider whereas more can also be proffered. Some questions for the Indians to consider:

    1. Claiming they have irrefutable GPS data seems to look as if these jokers have seen a GPS for the first time. Data can be added and the GPS could also be planted, which in this case is probable. After all, they are so smart and we so foolish that we infiltrate into enemy territory with a sign posted to say, 'I am from Pakistan' and of all people they discover it.

    2. How did these infiltrators cross the River Ravi when it's in full flood, spanning 1000 meters with a massive discharge of water?

    3. If the fence is so ineffective why spend so much on it. It maybe preferable to spend it on the thousands starving in the nude on Delhi's streets

    This brings me to the threats: I think we have heard enough from these bastards, they should put their money where their mouth is; ' come and get it', we have never threatened them, so what's stopping this declared terrorist who is their PM to come and get his backside massaged from us.

    As for Kashmir, it shall never be their's and the matter will be resolved. To the Indians I would say it's a question of time. Our own weaknesses and internal bickering has delayed the matter; when we are ready I can promise you we shall come to get what's ours. Hopefully you will not have to wait too long.

    Leaving aside the war that they won by supporting a separatist movement in EastPakistan, they, who are 8 times are size have nothing to brag about. In 1948 we got most of our Kashmir by the Pushtuns alone, in '65 we got the rest of what we have through Gen Akhtar Malik's offensive. Have they forgotten Ran of Kutch? Sialkot was the largest tank battle after world war two and they got thrashed; must have been the largest thrashing in military history by that equation and that too by one regiment alone, 25 Cavalry? ???
    Do they remember M. M Alam, in case they need a reference they need to look at the Guinness book of records, a Pakistani fighter pilot who took out 5 Indian hijras in one engagement. So, yes, I for one would welcome an Indian adventure, haven't been to India and would love to see the monuments attributed to our forefathers in Delhi and Agra etc.

    The other issue is of the waters that the Indians are trying to choke off. Well I would welcome any investment in dams and other such projects. We have never been good at these but since we are likely to inherit these structures I would request that we should closely supervise them for good quality and not cutting edges here and there.

    Last of all; every dog has his day and we will come for you Indians. You will have to destroy us if you do not want that to happen.
    We are not an ordinary Army, we have our moments of glory too. We moved 3.5 million people out of Swat and relocated them. Cleared the Valley of militants in 3 months and moved the people back to their homes. Unprecedented in military history and the closest to this was the international community trying to move 3 million Afghan refugees back to Afghanistan and failing even after 30 years. We are the Army that has cleared 3500 kms of road in the conflict zone and control our lines of communications unlike the Coalition of 35 countries, hunkered down in static garrisons, whimpering, frightened and awaiting relief every six months while they paid the Taliban goodwill money not to attack them. They, the conquerors of Afghanistan have now run with their tail between their legs while we are here to stay. What of the Cambrian Patrol where our Army was pitched against the best, UK, USA, Russia, Canada, South Africa, Australia, Germany, Italy and you, India. We stood first in the world. No we are not an ordinary Army and rue the day when you the Indians have to face us again.

    I would request for maximum sharing. Some may think I am India centric, well yes I am and proud of it. I have considered them to be my enemy for 35 years and was paid to do so. I have no other way of looking at it. I am neither a politician or a diplomat and thus am liberated from the pseudo intellectual debate of 'how it would benefit both of us to improve relations'. This is an enemy state and this ambiguity mustbe addressed, we work against each other'sinterests and who ever does it better, wins. QED.
     
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  3. Brood Father

    Brood Father Regular Member

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    All rhetoric and no facts , a true Pakistani at his best
    You guys don't even had a clue that OBL is hiding at you backyard and now you talk about defeating India
    And please I don't even want to go into details of what this idiot has written becuase history will always remember that Pakistan lost all the 3 wars
    And BTW did this lion(or loin) also surrendered in 1971 ...
     
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    blueblood Senior Member Senior Member

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    Bravo!!!

    Another gem of an article from gem of a general.

    General Tariq sahab, Indians did actually forgot a lot but they'll never forget the glorious victory of Pakistan in Dhaka and the surrender ceremony of Indians.

    The day when 90000 timid Indians were reduced to cattle and herded on to trains to spend their days rotting in Pakistani jails. With its military's prestige, honour and dignity reduced to rubble.

    The day when pious warriors of Islam lost a war in less than a fortnight. Please don't humiliate us anymore.

    THE THEN LARGEST SURRENDER AFTER WW2 WAS A HUMILIATING EXPERIENCE FOR US.


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    MAY PAKISTAN BE BLESSED WITH MORE SUCH ARMOURED LIONS.

    INSHAALLAH!!!
     
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    thethinker Senior Member Senior Member

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    We already know. Except that you wear a uniform while your comrades wear sherwani and are non-state actors.

    Kuch to naya batao except same old rhetorics. :crazy:
     
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    thethinker Senior Member Senior Member

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    Look no further than this thread for the Pakiness to be visible in all it's glory.

    Aman ki asha y'all! :biggrin2:
     
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    blueblood Senior Member Senior Member

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    Boys, I found something which cannot be explained by mere words so I am going to open a new thread for it.
     
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    thethinker Senior Member Senior Member

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    Now that Zaid Hamid is detained by his fellow brothers in Saudi, this Lt Gen here is a good source for Pakistani idiotic musings thread.

    Thanks @Zarvan. :)
     
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    thethinker Senior Member Senior Member

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    I've updated the Paki idiotic musings thread.

    Request @Zarvan to post all the Lt.Gen saab's Whatsapp messages to that thread to avoid opening new threads.

    Thanks!
     
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  10. Rowdy

    Rowdy Co ja kurwa czytam! Senior Member

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    Nice. Good Point's by the dear General.
    Please dear General ... we are innocent vegetarian Hindu's ... please leave us alone .... :(
     
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    Rowdy Co ja kurwa czytam! Senior Member

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    General should also know it is Chaiwala in command ... so it's easy pickings for him
     
  12. Zarvan

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    Zaid Hamid is being released. Saudis found nothing against him
     
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    These are facts with local tribals we took lot of Kashmir and Gilgit Baltistan and in 1965 you were humiliated and defeated. Yes we lost in 1971, as for Kargil despite being most ill planned operation we still have two peaks in that region. In 2002 you ran away after 11 month stand off and loosing 2000 soldiers.
     
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    Nothing new with above Gibberish.

    Pakistanis are going to masturbate on this made in China dildo of CPEC for many years to come.

    India on the other hand has made the record straight on its objection at highest Chinese leadership of it passing through Indian territory; which Pakistanis themselves call it disputed territory. Anything that is disputed is anyone's claim going by Pakistanis logic.

    Everyone knows who is giving money to jobless Khalistanis to protest on the streets of western countries along with Pakistanis. Pig like Hameed Gul is even inciting porn actress Sunny Leoney to fight for Khalistan on twitter. This is the desperation of these fagots who are having wet dreams of Khalistani insurgency in India.

    Khalistan is defunct in Punjab even if there are random political protests in Punjab; they pose no strategic impediment.

    Pakistanis have forgot last time they tried to fuck around Indian Punjab; that Khusra look like daughter of that clown Zulfikar Ali Bhutto, Benazir had to give information of all the Khalistani snakes she was sponsoring.

    MQM and Karachi. ......hu.... Karchi is whore house of militant Political group for ages, the icing on the cake came after WOT when AQ and later TTP started visiting this whore house rather made it its permanent brothel.

    This is not the first time Pakistan army is doing operation in Karachi, last time was Operation clean up in 1992. Pakistan is doing this operation for its own sake but some how a useless General like they have many ranting on TV channels has brought out a conspiracy theory right from his rear to some how connect it with India.
     
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  15. Brood Father

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    Again you are ill informed , in 1947 yes local tribes took gilgit and pok but that was from Raja hari Singh moment Indian army took control everything changed and till now you cannot take your beloved kasmir
    And BTW do nishan e haider is given to non army personal ? If no then why it was given to Raja sarwar ...hence your army was also part of this , so please do not do tribal gibberish again
    Now in 1965 you were hell confident that you will take kashmir back , it was now or never type situation ,yes you attacked and probably won some battles but bhaijaan you lost the war
    You talk about chwinda , what about asal uttar which became graveyard of Patton tanks
    You had better equipments , aligned with CENTO , better trained personal and you were pretty sure that you will win on the other hand India came out of humiliating defeat by china , our leader was dead and the replacement according to you was weak and could not handle pressure situation and lastly one mujahid is always equal to 10 baniya (your martian mathematical equation) but instead of taking kashmir you end up defending Lahore and if you consider that as win then my friend I am sorry you have very low criteria of winning
    65 was a start of 71 , so bhajaan irrespective of what do you say India won the war , I can give you this that yes we lost some battles but in totality the victory was ours
     
  16. Brood Father

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    Kargil was not ill planned it was master stroke , see the point is to displace somebody from elevated position you need a lot of effort , ratio is 3:1 , and in such harsh condition ratio increases
    The idea was since you guys cannot displace indians from high peaks of siachin similarly Indians will not be able to displace you from kargil , but it failed badly.
    You talk about point 5353 , do you seriously think that if we can occupy tiger hill , this peak would have been a challenge ? The point is LOC passes through this peak so out of utter confusion the operation underway was called off and please take that as a consolation prize for your hard work and we can take it anytime we want so no problem there
    Coming to operation parakram where we lost lot of soldiers while mobilizing , fine we learned some bitter lessons but worry not that paved the path of cold start (you heard that name right which is always in you news channels )
     
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    OT but since the Paki Lt.Gen wishes to chest thump by bringing in Cambrian patrol and trying to depict that only Paki army can come out on top while others are rank amateurs, here is some heartbreaking news for all the Pakis out there :

    This was of 2014. Happened before in 2010 too IIRC.

    Modi Applauds Army Contingent for Emerging Victorious in Cambrian Patrol
    By Express News Service

    Published: 05th November 2014 05:00 AM

    http://www.newindianexpress.com/nat...Cambrian-Patrol/2014/11/05/article2507798.ece

    NEW DELHI: After making a surprise visit to the world’s highest battlefield in Siachen, Prime Minister Narendra Modi applauded the Army contingent for winning the gold medal in the prestigious Cambrian Patrol held in the UK, beating more than 140 participants.

    The team from 8 Garhwal Rifles won a gold medal in the competition held from October 17-26.

    During his 20 minute-long chat show, ‘Mann Ki Baat’, aired last Sunday (November 2) on All India Radio, the Prime Minister made a mention of the Army’s achievement.

    “You will be pleased to hear that our Army team has won a gold medal, beating 140 countries in the prestigious Cambrian Patrol held in Britain. I give my heartiest wishes to these jawans,” the Prime Minister had said. He also mentioned the Army jawans who are working in the harsh inhospitable terrain of Siachen to protect the sovereignty of the country.

    Exercise Cambrian Patrol is an annual international military patrolling event that makes its participating units cover a 80-km course in less than 48 hours, while performing numerous types of military exercises, across the rugged terrain of Cambrian Mountains and swamp lands of Mid-Wales in the UK.

    Cambrian Patrol was first started more than 40 years ago, by a group of Welsh Territorial Army soldiers, who designed the training event to feature long-distance marching across the Cambrian Mountains culminating in a shooting match.

    The aim of the exercise is to test leadership, self-discipline, courage, physical endurance and determination of the participants.

    The competition consists of teams of eight men patrolling across some of the most unforgiving terrains.

    The tests are held over two days, with no sleep or rest. Some tests which are undertaken include - firing of personal weapons, hurdle-crossing, first aid and casualty evacuation, recognition of aircraft vehicles and equipment, artillery target indication, patrol techniques, handling prisoners of war, tactical river/stream crossing and ambush/anti ambush drills, among others.

    Many of the teams that enter dropout. Those that do, earn one of four distinctions -- gold medal, silver medal, bronze medal or passing, a statement by the Army said.

    An Army team from 4/9 Gorkha Rifles had won the gold medal in 2010.
     
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    Really . Is he coming straight to Delhi or panipat , I need to get ready and greet him , pls let me know does he need horse or car to travel to Lal qila delhi also I need to call all India radio to vacate their office at once as from tommarow it will be radio Pakistan Delhi

    Ohhh man so much work to do
     
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    can u explain ???


    yes ur tribals took half of Kashmir clearly show who were the aggressor and illegal occupier of Kashmir.

    now you are doing zarb-a-ajab against the same tribals .what a irony:biggrin2::biggrin2::biggrin2:

    the fact is u can take Kashmir either military and diplomatically:bounce::bounce:
     
  20. Zarvan

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    Yes they took Kashmir and saved that from your state oppression and terrorism being conducted by Indian Forces
     
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    The lion who surrendered with 90k soldiers.
    Well this guy is not a lion this guy is a pussy cat.
    And what's with the CPEC thing?? Corridors are made all around the world and afaik nobody exaggerate it to the point Pakis are doing.
    It's a good thing that you are now thinking about your economy but that doesn't mean you'll get rich over night because of CPEC.
     
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