Arjun Main Battle Tank (MBT) Mark I

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  1. shuvo@y2k10

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    The picture of early arjun prototype isn't very clear. But in my opinion this is the frontal view of the prototype whose side view was shown previously:
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    In other words both seems is the same tank.
    DRDO it seems experimented with 2-3 types of turret design including a semi -sloped one and then on recommendation of the army finally settled for the boxy type turret design which bears a close resemblance with Leopard 2a4. However unlike the leopard whose subsequent versions 2a5 and 2a6 featured frontal arrow shaped wedged shaped turret, arjun continues with the boxy type turret design of the mk1 with ERA panels attached in the frontal 60 degree giving it a T-90 type turret profile .
     
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    Thier hatred is amazing. Look at the delusion they live in. From where are those members exactly?
     
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    Don't know, just found that forum today.

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    Ignore those idiots. We as Indian's tend to get carried away by emotions which casts aspersions on our indegeneous abilities. I am following the arjun mbt programme for the last 10-12 years on the net and have seen these type of idiots all around.
    The fact of the matter is :
    1. Foreign products (rifles, planes, tanks) tend to fail in trials in Indian conditions and fall way short of the IA GSQR.
    2. Arjun mbt is the only MBT which is desdigned as per GSQR.
    3. Arjun MBT mk 2 today is as good as its western counterparts if not better.
    4. Comparitive trials with Arjun mbt with FRCV counterparts in Indian conditions will most likely result in the clear victory of Arjun. Remember the T-90 vs Arjun trials just 10 years ago.
    5. The superiority of Arjun is also certified by Israeli experts (who worked on Merkava) as third party auditors.
    6. Most of the FRCV RFI parameters including 1200 mm+ frontal armour protection is already acheived in Arjun mk 2.
    7. Developement of 1500HP engine is well on track(I have previously posted some info on this based on CVRDE publications).
    8. Developement of 120 mm smoothbore is also on track.

    Hence it is needless to assume that Arjun Mbt is a world beater in the hands of IA and whatever the pakis and chinkis can throw at it including Al-khalid, t-80,type 96,type 99m or even imported M1A2 from USA in the hands of pakis, the arjun mbt will emerge as the winner.
     
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    Its amazing that FRCV want with all the requirements of GSQR for Arjun in 48 tons +- 15% which is Arjun MK1 weight class, best part T90s (72BU) dont fulfill that, still T-72(s) in service and arjun only in token numbers.
     
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    ridiculous bashing forum so funny
     
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    Just Edgy teenage white cuckolds who can't deal with the fact that they r gonna be extinct.
     
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    They have dedicated threads only to bash particular defence product. They just put a point and bash it like," you kidding me, how can they use this in Arjun" without backing up with facts, lies and only lies. They want to form a team to do same bashing here on DFI. Please aholes, do that, we are waiting for you.
     
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    Don't bother reading such biased forums. Honestly, the same westerners scoffed and mocked our space program and missile program. Now look at us, and them.

    They (W. Europe) are struggling to find funds to maintain their militaries. UK is scrapping its Amphib forces, while no RN ship is on op deployment at the moment.

    They look to us to evacuate their citizens from Yemen, and turn around and call our systems defunct and worthless.

    Next time a war breaks out, we'll see who does better.

    PS: professional soldiers from all across the Western nations know and understand the significant capabilities that the Indian military possesses. Why do you think so the JMSDF and the USN conduct joint ASW ex with us, and the Australians can't wait to jump in as well.
     
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    Folks, I did go through the thread and have few questions...

    I am a layman and please guide me

    One of the most puzzling things is about APFSDS rounds. In the forum, they have discussed about DRDO's APFSDS rounds... Our rounds have the capability to penetration 300mm armor at 2km. We don't know that penetration of 300mm armor is with ERA or Without ERA. I don't think this penetration is sufficient to destroy enemy tanks. Moreover, we don't have any smooth bore gun to test sabot rounds, then how did we get the test results for our sabot rounds.

    Thanks in advance
     
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    300 mm APFDS was a thing of the past. 600 mm is inducted since 2013 and work is on to develop 650 mm+.
    Also in a problem statement army has released requirement of 800 mm+ for T-72 tank which will form a requirement of FRCV and it will be worked on in DMRL as we speak.
    DMRL is currently developing several heavy tungsten alloys WHA through powder metallurgy routes to improve its penetration capabilities and also researching on introducing self sharpening capabilities in tungsten by optimising the alloy composition. This will make it at par with advanced DU based rounds.
     
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    About FSAPDS penetration figures, they're generally against pure RHA plates. ERA and Composite armor can have rough RHA "equivalent" values. Like if a armored vehicle has 150mm base armor, and on top of that 100mm equivalent of composite arrays and 50mm equivalent of ERA arrays, then it is said to be able to resist 300mm of penetration.

    But since there are different types of anti tank ammo, and even a single type doesn't have the same dynamics in the middle of ERA explosion or rubber/ceramic layer in Composite plates, as it has in steel, this method of extracting equivalency isn't exactly scientifically accurate.
     
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