Are nukes over-rated?

[LETHALFORCE]

India's Nuclear Ambitions Boosted by Joining Liability Pact

http://www.bloomberg.com/news/artic...r-ambitions-boosted-by-joining-liability-pact

India’s decision to join a global treaty on nuclear accident liability may help it woo reactor suppliers, including Westinghouse Electric Co. and General Electric Co., that have been reluctant to sell technology to the nation.

The country ratified the Convention on Supplementary Compensation for Nuclear Damage, also known as CSC, the International Atomic Energy Agency said on Thursday. India’s current law allows operators to hold suppliers responsible for accidents, making international equipment makers hesitant to sign deals as the nation seeks to expand nuclear power capacity more than 10-fold by 2032.

“This is important for foreign firms to be able to provide needed investments in India power plants,” Lake Barrett, a former official with the U.S. Nuclear Regulatory Commission, said by e-mail. “This is a very positive step for India and the global community as well. India’s electricity needs are huge.”


The country’s liability law, enacted in 2010, is a legacy of the 1984 Union Carbide chemical accident at Bhopal that killed more than 10,000 people. General Electric won’t risk building a nuclear plant in the country, Chairman Jeffrey Immelt said last year, citing the liability issue.

‘Conclusive Step’
Westinghouse Electric expects to reach a deal with India by the end of this year to provide at least six nuclear reactors, Chief Executive Officer Daniel Roderick said in December. France’s Areva SA signed an accord in 2009 to build six 1,650-megawatt reactors at Jaitapur, a coastal town in India’s western province of Maharashtra.

The CSC will take effect on May 4 and “marks a conclusive step in the addressing of issues related to civil nuclear liability in India,” the country’s foreign affairs ministry said in a statement shortly after IAEA’s announcement on Thursday.

General Electric, Areva and Westinghouse Electric, as well as its parent company Toshiba Corp., didn’t immediately respond to requests for comment outside normal business hours.

Reactors have been separated between civilian and military. The nuclear reactors affected by the liability pact will be on the civilian side.
Countries have already struck deals with Indian on civilian side. This liability pact may specifically help India /USA/Japan deadlock to be broken?

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[Kshatriya87]

Reactors have been separated between civilian and military. The nuclear reactors affected by the liability pact will be on the civilian side.
Countries have already struck deals with Indian on civilian side. This liability pact may specifically help India /USA/Japan deadlock to be broken?

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I think other countries now won't fear supplying nuclear fuel and countries already supplying fuel won't hesitate to renew contracts.

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[sorcerer]

@roma
Nukes are kinda useless in current situation..but its a VERY must for power projection...and the Awesome thing in our arsenal.

Nukes give any nation the power to do everything else which is NOT nuclear in war. India should evolve out into more strategic tactics.

India knows that pak can be sent wholesale to 72 virgins with the current nuke offensive capacity we have..But
Geo-politically..china is dependent on pak for its survival in the ME as a possible power broker for many terrorist organizations that could hurt chinese economic interests in the region.

With china in the picture..china wont hesitate to show off with the nukes when we have any skirmish with pak. It will be a classic chinese bluff. We have to combine that chines bluff it with the west paid pressstitutes in India who will hyperventilate and bat for the chinese..pak and west..This eventuality will put enough and more pressure on GoI to "NORMALIZE" the situation.
Meaning..forget pakistan...we should have real world capacity to surpass chinese bluff.

We should have world class capacity when it comes to nukes to be even and to call their bluff and of other nations.

 

[Bahamut]

It is not the warhead but the technology you develop for the warhead and the delivery system that have true value.It is also act as public moral boaster and has huge value if you are against a enemy is superior to you in quality and quantity and it also make sure that no country (assuming that the leader on both side have brain) declare a full scale war on you because of MAD.

 

[Panjab47]

@roma china pak already test through north korea.

SJha1618 said: India can destroy China 5 largest industrial centres. They can brag about it being spread but, economy of scale = concentration.

We don’t care about barbie doll factories.

 

[sorcerer]

Design and Engineering of Agni VI missile is finished

 

[no smoking]

@roma china pak already test through north korea.

SJha1618 said: India can destroy China 5 largest industrial centres. They can brag about it being spread but, economy of scale = concentration.

We don’t care about barbie doll factories.

On the contrary, as a country had been preparing itself against 2 nuclear superpowers, her weapon manufacturing factories were built up to survive in the attack of more than 1000 nuclear warheads, which is far beyond above India can dream to have in near future.

The 5 largest industrial centres you talk about are consists of civilian factories.

So, that is exact what you will destroy: doll factories.

 

[sorcerer]

^^

her weapon manufacturing factories were built up to survive in the attack of more than 1000 nuclear warheads,

Yes...very possible by Respawn mode!!!!!!!!
Ladies and Gentlemen.... Its confirmed Afghan weed has arrived in china via pakistan

 

[Kshatriya87]

manufacturing factories were built up to survive in the attack of more than 1000 nuclear warheads,

Simultaneous attack or back to back? How was the engineering done? Because I'm an engineer and I haven't come across any metal structure which can be designed to withstand so much heat / pressure & shock waves. Maybe China has evolved into an era Star Trek !!

 

[Kshatriya87]

Design and Engineering of Agni VI missile is finished

This link leads to a thread which says nothing about Agni VI. Only Agni V.

 

[sorcerer]

This link leads to a thread which says nothing about Agni VI. Only Agni V.

There is a post on "The Importance of Agni-V to India’s Security" which talks about nuclear warheads and vehicles..
oh well!!

 

[Kshatriya87]

There is a post on "The Importance of Agni-V to India’s Security" which talks about nuclear warheads and vehicles..
oh well!!

Agni V, yes. Nothing about design/engineering of Agni VI. Besides, there is a confusion. Are both V & VI - MIRVs? Or just Agni VI?

 

[sorcerer]

Agni V, yes. Nothing about design/engineering of Agni VI. Besides, there is a confusion. Are both V & VI - MIRVs? Or just Agni VI?

With the puke rant pakis will be the first one to find it out.

According to Wiki :A"gni-V is expected to feature Multiple independently targetable reentry vehicle "

 

[no smoking]

Simultaneous attack or back to back? How was the engineering done? Because I'm an engineer and I haven't come across any metal structure which can be designed to withstand so much heat / pressure & shock waves. Maybe China has evolved into an era Star Trek !!

Well, there is nothing new involve here:
1. build them within the cave/tunnels of mountains covering by thousands of metres rocks, or at least underground;
2.Spread them all over the country;
3. Build replicate systems in various provinces.

This doesn't need star Trek technologies, simply money and labours will do.
By the way, all P5 did that.

 

[garg_bharat]

India is against a nuclear war. There is no benefit in fighting a nuclear war.

India's weapons are according to its doctrine, which is published by official sources.

India has decided to not be the first one to fire a nuclear weapon in anger.

This is clear that a nuclear war can have damaging consequences for Indian society and economy. What the war does to an enemy is hard to quantify.

 

[garg_bharat]

The discussion about missiles and MIRV capability is largely useless. The capability exists but its purpose is not to scare or engage in an arms race

 

[garg_bharat]

India has always tried to have good relations with China on a platform of equality. The two civilizations have existed side by side for thousands of years, and there is no reason to believe that they can't do that now.

I believe that asian nations should work Together. There is no benefit in playing second fiddle to the anglo-american plan.

 

[garg_bharat]

The Chinese thinking of 'China being the last man standing' in an all consuming nuclear war' will fail. Any nuclear war will leave China weak and fragmented.

 

[Indx TechStyle]

By the way, all P5 did that.

So, what do you wanna say man. India can't do so?
We have done many things similar to these supa dupa powa full P5, so can't do that even.
A very large infrastructural network and enough tech. Who can stop us?
Here's, the case of thermo nukes, we need just some sanction free time. Which we can get at war very easily.
Moreover, we have mastered many of techs in civil nuclear sector.
Trying to build fusion reactors now. So, if you think we will have much difficulty, please kill the thought.

 

[Kshatriya87]

Well, there is nothing new involve here:
1. build them within the cave/tunnels of mountains covering by thousands of metres rocks, or at least underground;
2.Spread them all over the country;
3. Build replicate systems in various provinces.

This doesn't need star Trek technologies, simply money and labours will do.
By the way, all P5 did that.

1000s of metres of rock? How many thousand? 7? Wouldn't that be equal to Mt. Everest? Don't tell me you have a manufacturing factory below the Mt. Everest.