Are Indians behaving like Pakistanis towards Minority?

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  1. blank_quest

    blank_quest Senior Member Senior Member

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    I have some questions I had in my head.
    may be it will not be liked by any! if so PLZ IGNORE THIS THREAD!:namaste:


    Why are Hindu's aggrieved by "radical" stances -provocative speeches- of some "minority leaders".?

    Is that natural reaction or it is unnatural exaggerated response?

    Will this be the same response of "hindus" if some "radical Hindu" leader says something similar against minority?

    What view does Indian Hindu have for Treatment of Pakistani Hindus?

    Are Indian Hindus leading to the same path in treating Indian minority as Paki Muslims did?

    What view does Indian minority have for Treatment of Pakistani Hindus?

    What views does Indian Minority have about Indian Hindus reacting to such "radical stances" of "minority leader"?

    What are the views about radicalization in community? <---- Ques for both
     
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  3. Yusuf

    Yusuf GUARDIAN Administrator

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    Some want to create a " Pakistan" the very country they detest. Its a very minority that wants this and the true secular fabric of the nation will never allow that.
     
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    civfanatic Retired Moderator

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    It seems to me like many Hindutvadis or pseudo-nationalists are hell-bent on creating a Hindu version of Pakistan.
     
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    Here is how I have seen it. A person who harbours hate for others, no matter who that person is, and no matter against whom that hate is targeted, they will all come across as the same, and so will their tactics be as well. The difference could be in the intensity of expression, one could be slightly milder, the other way over zealous.
     
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    Because those minority leaders are traitors. Calling Spade a Spade is not "radical" or "Communalism". Unfortunately, we are still living in Nehru defined secularism. There are many such Muslim leaders who have such fundamentalist nefarious design. What we we see from time to time is RESPONSE! Government also support such minority group for vote-bank politics. So, it's last option.

    Natural. History also makes a section of Hindu more vigilant towards RoP.

    Majority of Hindus condemn. You can check numerous thread here to verify. Also, Most of the time, it's Eye for an Eye. Newton's third law applicable here. To cut the iron, iron is needed.

    Mostly don't have strong emotional attachment, may be because we cannot do anything except giving some citizenship on humanitarian basis on case-to-case. However, Pakistan is an indication how Indian subcontinent Muslims behave towards Hindus when they become majority.

    No, If that would be true, Muslim population could have declined from 10% odd percentage to 2% since 1947 but it's 14% that also after two-third Hindus migrated from Pak/BD to India after 1947. Muslims are much more safe in India than Pakistan. Also, Muslims have some special privilege as per constitution. Most of the political parties believe in appeasing Muslims. Yes, A section of Hindus are unhappy with Islamist people. Recent example : 1>Assam 2> Mumbai violence. Muslim vote bank politics is also very important reason.

    Nothing, I suppose. Hindus are born to die like coward as they are inferior, Un-organised religion. Although, Some Muslims have very good opinion of Muslims of other countries including Palestine. Even some political leaders have started saying what such minority want.

    I am assuming, Indian minority means Muslims and may be Christians. They hate all Right-Wing Hindu. They hide behind secular Gandhi and Integrity of the country. However, they remain silent when Islamist attack(Ranchi, Mumbai, Hyderabad, etc.) or Burn/Kill Hindus alive (Marad, Godhra, etc.)

    Bad......but then that is what happens when one side become radical.


    P.S: I am talking about a section of Muslim/Christian/Hindu. Don't take as entire community.
     
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    rock127 Maulana Rockullah Senior Member

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    Are Hindus of Pakistan giving hate speeches and becoming jihadis involved in blasts???
     
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    No minority can live in peace by perenially irritating its majority neighbours.Indhira Gandhi is supposed to have said in 82-83
     
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    Dovah Untermensch Senior Member

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    No, not even close.
     
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    Indian is not the same a Hindu
     
  11. hit&run

    hit&run Elite Member Elite Member

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    Beg the Maths to help you.

    Count and compare the numbers of minorities both in India and Pakistan. You will get the answer.
     
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    hit&run Elite Member Elite Member

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    Tell us what Hindus should do ?

    What do you mean by exaggerated response ?

    It is Hindus who have been opposing radicals, minorities are no where in position to deter them in India.

    No one is abducting Girls from minority and converting them Hindus like Pakistanis Muslims have been doing. There are hundreds of Hindus and Sikhs left/leaving Pakistan for India. Not even a single minority as done the same from India, regardless of much propaganda by Muslims of Pakistan on mistreatment of minorities in India.

    You do not have to get your panties into twist if someone make some comments about Indian Muslims or anyone else. They are more empowered than anyone else being a minority living in a republic on this planet.

    They are here to mock dysfunctional Hindus thus to level the scores for their petty disagreements. One Indian ex army man was ridiculing Hindus for doing nothing on exodus of Kashmiri Pandits, one poster was criticizing Hindus for not being able to extend help to Pakistani Hindus in distress.

    When it happens to all it happens to non. But when it happens to few it should happen to all. But in diverse India. ''Sawari Apne samaan ke khud zimeywar hai''.

    Only loud mouth Hindus have this disease to comment on any thing and every thing. Minorities keep their comments preserve for the right time and for the good deal.

    A radical without gun and IED can only throw few bottles and pelt stones. Hindus radical has no place to hide and he will culled in no time, he is bad for no good reason (Baadh changa, Badnaam bura). But those who blast serial bombs in your metropolitan city can still find safe havens in Pakistan.
     
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    Why shouldn't they? is it not there right to be as vile as the minority? or does being a majority entail some responsibility tht one should automatically be aware of?


    It is a natural phenomenon when threatened.

    will and shalls are just rhetoric. rather experience and history has always pointed to the contrary.

    indifference. Even Indonesia has hindus.

    from 7 to 20% do the math


    Radicalization is frowned upon due to it unproductive nature. If its molded in a way in which the country and ppl benefit then radicalization is good.
     
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    Yusuf GUARDIAN Administrator

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    Care to explain how radicalization can be moulded to benefit the nation?
     
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    spikey360 Crusader Senior Member

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    Hope the answer addresses your queries.
     
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    SHURIDH Senior Member Senior Member

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    I think you need to make correction in 1951 muslims were 10.32% and 2001 its 13.43%.
    And 2011 it may be 14.2-14.3%.
    I think you did not know that.
     
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    SHURIDH Senior Member Senior Member

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    Indian muslim are more safe in india than pakistani muslim in pakistan.
    Indian minorites gets equal constitutional right and gets freedom to do practice freely.
    Indian minorities is an important part of india.
    Every indian muslim should be proud being indian.
    There has some problem but we are hopeful to overcome it.
     
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    They hate even to be compared with Pakistanis!
     
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    Don't mix everything Hindu Nationalist by large don't want to trample or convert minorities however they do believe in a politic of no appeasement which is prevailing in the country these days.
    A strong anti-terror laws,police free to do their work without NGO's crowd jumping in to play victim card and most importantly a unified civil code for each citizen not different laws
     
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    Radicalization by definition is to hold extreme view about what they think is right.

    Often radicals are the only ppl who get shit done when others are too lazy and/or unmotivated in there own meaningful lives.

    If there was no radicalization there would be no revolution and by revolution i mean change.

    Radicalization is/was/will be the the most efferent and short term way of achieving change where change is frowned upon.

    We are all Radicals against corruption ,are we not?


    i don't feel the need to go into details on how to manipulate the masses,but examples are all around.It gets a little controversial.

    Though id say this, everyone has a hole in there being tht they try to fill with something or the other tht they feel can uplift there miserable lives.

    Some do it with god ,some through nationalism and some mingle both into something even bigger. In the end molding this very instinct is the key to make or break the nation.
     
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    I dont think it is possible for Hindus to act like Muslims or even Christians as Hinduism does not have the concept of blasphemy and damnation of non-believers.
     
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