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99.9% of human DNA is probably shared with apes.99.99% of our dna is same.
99.9% of human DNA is probably shared with apes.99.99% of our dna is same.
Indians and Pakistanis are East Indians to USG; all these categories are considered for the purposes of affirmative action in some form. So if a highly educated Indian applies for a government contract, consideration is given over an economically disadvantaged caucasian.Hello Ewald - saw the us govt doc you referred us to and thanks - but the document seems to me to be a categorisation perhaps of the main larger populationed immigrant communities . One reason for my saying so is that there is no mention of the various arab ethnic communities nor israeli , iranian is also missing , it is inadequate in the present form ? So I concluded that it is a short list with some specific application and not a categorisation from a genetic point of view of the ethnicities of mankind - as such the categorisation of indian under the asian sub-grioup is faulty or rather for some other purpose ...btw even the large pakistani nation is not mentioned.
None of them. "Asian" here in the states is used for people with smaller eyes.Hi
Yeah, I was talking about my personal experience. What have you to say on the thread?
Do you consider yourself more asian or middle-eastern?
Dude, what's the point? Obviously not many people care about ethnicity here. There's already a poll somewhere on this forum on people's ethnicity here, you can check that up if you really want to know so badly. This is a pan-Indian board, no one cares about ethnicity.
Zarvin,Well the Indians I interacted with on other forums were quite proud to say they were Keralites, Punjabi etc. Maybe it's just this forum. Anyway I'm off.
Zarvin,
A state-based classification, in Indian context, like Kerala, Punjab, Gujarat, Assam etc would not be a pointer to one's 'ethnicity'. They are all in fact, a linguistic classification, mostly. Even within these states, you could have people speaking different languages as well as dialects and having different religious and cultural traditions. So there are no concrete/major ethnic classifications in India that I'm aware of. In India, such classifications may only work in smaller, isolated communities
Why would they not identify with their ancestors? Only Pakis don't identify with their ancestors. Only Pakis celebrate the rape and pillage of their Sindhi ancestors by Bin Qasim and other invaders. Only Pakis celebrate the successive raids and sackings of the great cities and universities of the Pakjab (Paki Punjab FYI) by Afghan invaders time and time again. Pakis are the ones that curse and badmouth their ancestors because they are brainwashed by an ideology that considers Kafirs fit for nothing but slaughter.Hi thanks for your post.
Regardless of where you live, I'm pretty sure many people have a view of their own ethnic background, like those people you quoted are in fact ethnic groups.
If they live in a different state or speak a different language, then it is up to them whether they are integrated enough into that community to consider a new identity or whether they still identify with their ancestors.
Unfortunatly pakistanis like to have their cake and eat it. They subscribe to being both arabic and yet still think they founded the Indus and Harappan civilisations. George Orwell in 1984 called it 'doublethink', the ability to believe 100% in two entirely contradictary thoughts at the same time.Why would they not identify with their ancestors? Only Pakis don't identify with their ancestors. Only Pakis celebrate the rape and pillage of their Sindhi ancestors by Bin Qasim and other invaders. Only Pakis celebrate the successive raids and sackings of the great cities and universities of the Pakjab (Paki Punjab FYI) by Afghan invaders time and time again. Pakis are the ones that curse and badmouth their ancestors because they are brainwashed by an ideology that considers Kafirs fit for nothing but slaughter.
Pakis are so brainwashed that they imported Urdu, a language from UP, India and made it their national language over the dead corpses of their own native languages like Punjabi.
Indians not only identify with their ancestors, they are proud of their 5000 year old civilization that started from Harappa and Mohenjo-daro and continues to this day uninterrupted. The various ethnicities and languages of India don't divide us, they unite us through our common historical experiences and shared values of secularism (part of dharmic tradition), democracy and pluralism.
Note the contradiction. Genetically - you are an Indian (If you have learnt anything on this thread so far), yet you refuse to think this thread is anything to do with you.This is not my thread to discuss myself. This is about Indians, the stage is all yours-----tell us about yourself.
Unfortunatly pakistanis like to have their cake and eat it. They subscribe to being both arabic and yet still think they founded the Indus and Harappan civilisations. George Orwell in 1984 called it 'doublethink', the ability to believe 100% in two entirely contradictary thoughts at the same time.
Well the Indians I interacted with on other forums were quite proud to say they were Keralites, Punjabi etc. Maybe it's just this forum. Anyway I'm off.
HiNote the contradiction. Genetically - you are an Indian (If you have learnt anything on this thread so far), yet you refuse to think this thread is anything to do with you.
Why dont you answer the question. Do you now consider yourself Indian?
LOL .. well saidI assure you sir . . .that its the other .001 % that really counts
This is one of the rarest places on the planet where people can celebrate their diversity and yet take pride in the all encompassing Indian unityWell the Indians I interacted with on other forums were quite proud to say they were Keralites, Punjabi etc. Maybe it's just this forum. Anyway I'm off.
I re-read Roma's original post, and actually I stand by my question - how do you as a Pakistani identify yourself? as this is the driving question and also explains why Roma's original post and title-question got you so excited.Hi
Genetically Germans and English are also similiar, genetically the whole world is the similiar, it has nothing to do with the topic.
India and Pakistan are nationalities. The question is addressed to Indians. Stop bringing in what you think Pakistanis think of themselves when I'm giving you the option to identify yourself.
PakistaniI re-read Roma's original post, and actually I stand by my question - how do you as a Pakistani identify yourself? as this is the driving question and also explains why Roma's original post and title-question got you so excited.
Agreed, but regardless of whether you've travelled outside or not, a Chinese living in China will still say he sees himself as an Asian in the mongoloid and not the middle eastern or Indian sense, he would tell you he's a Cantonese/Mandarin by ethnicity/language and any other distinction or history of the specific area where he originates.Roma's original question as you say is not one about genetics. But about regional classification - specifically about classification of people from the Indian sub-continent when they migrate abroad - commonly to the UK, US, Australia and Canada. So there is no point you asking Indians living in India how they classify themselves as they are Indian, happy to be Indian, and would have no concept of classifying themselves as anything else.
Kool Story.In the UK, originally when filling out official forms asking for ethnicity, there was only one classification - 'Indian' for people coming from the Indian sub-continent. But specifically, the Pakistani immigrants protested against this as they did not want anything with the word Indian in it (despite coming from the Indian sub-continent). Therefore, the British introduced a new classification called 'South Asian' - however the local pakistanis were still not happy as they wanted to be classified completely separatly from Indians. To an extent also, the local Indians wanted to be differentiated from the Pakistanis as there was a lot of adverse publicity arising out of Pakistani terrorist acitivities and grooming of young white girls etc. Therefore the classifications are now 'South Asian - Indian', 'South-Asian - Pakistani' etc.
Pakistani.But my whole point is, in the UK context, this whole clasification industry started because the Pakistanis had a problem with identifying themselves as from the Indian sub-continent. I am from India and happy to lable myself as from the 'Indian sub-continent' . The question is - how do you classify yourself as it is your people that caused all the problems with classification in the first place? My question stands for you to answer - now will you answer it?
A population of 1.2 billion should be called by their nationality. We look very different from both.