Anti-Pedophilia Bill Rejected In Pakistan As ‘Anti-Islamic’

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  1. FRYCRY

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    A bid to ban child marriage in Pakistan utterly failed, after the Council of Islamic Ideology declared the legislation “anti-Islamic” and “blasphemous.”

    The bill didn’t even move past the first stage in the legislative process, The Express Tribune reports. It was almost immediately pulled Thursday by Pakistan Muslim League party’s Marvi Menon following condemnation from CII, whose job it is to advise the legislature on whether bills are compliant with Sharia law. In this case, the bill clearly violated Islamic law as tradition holds marriage as acceptable when a girl hits puberty.


    After CII’s declaration, a parliamentary committee rejected the legislation solely for religious reasons and Menon subsequently pulled the legislation.


    Existing legislation in Pakistan already violates Islamic law. The Child Marriage Restraint (Amendment) Act 2014 places the legal age of marriage at 16 for women, but the recent proposal attempted to move that age up to 18 and also included serious punishment for the common practice of child marriage. That punishment would have included prison for up to two years for anyone caught engaging in child marriage.

    According to the organization Girls Not Brides, over 21 percent of the girls in Pakistan enter into marriage before the age of 18.

    CII Chairman Mohammad Khan Sheerani reiterated in 2014 that girls can be married at age nine, so long as puberty is apparent, adding that attempts to revisit the issue are pointless and unnecessary.

    “Parliament cannot create legislation that is against the teachings of the Holy Quran or Sunnah,” Sheerani said in 2014, according to The Express Tribune.

    CII was created in 1962 with the express purpose of advising parliament on Islamic law.



    CII is also known for calling to make DNA evidence inadmissible in rape cases as recently as 2013. What CII wanted instead is to bring back the old practice of bringing in four witnesses to support rape claims.

    With increasing immigration, the practice of child marriage has also spread to the West, raising alarm especially in the United Kingdom. According to data from the Home Office’s Forced Marriage Unit, there were 1,485 cases of child marriage in 2012. Another government report also foundchild marriage is increasing around the world, with the rate expected to climb to 14 million child marriages a year before 2020 hits.

    Pakistan has pledged to end child marriage by 2030 as part of a global initiative.



    Read more: http://dailycaller.com/2016/01/15/a...ed-in-pakistan-as-anti-islamic/#ixzz3xUAzzrui
     
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  3. Rowdy

    Rowdy Co ja kurwa czytam! Senior Member

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    lol...............................at least they are honest.
     
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    they follow jahiliya culture... of arab .
     
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    Thereby accepting the basic tenet of Islam.
     
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    Reply to Pakistan in there style.

    Na rahi izzat na rahi aan

    Na roti, na bijli na makaan

    Dekho yeh gaflat kar do elaan

    Band karo do Fauj/ISI ki dukkan

    Hakumat karen Beimaano kay khandaan

    Bik gaya Qadi aur Mullon ka imaan

    Fauj bani qatil gaddar hai hukamraan

    Luti gayi awaam ho gayi be-jubaan

    Qomi Zameer girvi hui , lut gayi shaan

    Pak ka naam ho gaya badnaam

    Har chowk pay hoti Izzat Nilaam

    Aap Kyon Bhool gaye asli islam

    Wahabiyon ki chaaten Karen salaam

    Dehshat failane laye Taliban

    Americano ke bane gand gulaam

    Lal topi wale Karen dallon kay kaam

    Koi na kareh Watan liye acha kaam

    Apki Riyasat bani alami Kabaristan

    "Bomb blast" har jagah - Waat lagi tamaam

    USA/Canada bhag gaye fauji afsaraan

    Barbaad apkey ho gaye dono hee jahaan

    Lekin bahut khush hai apke Abba Shaitan.

    Wah wah Quaid-e-azam tera Dooba Porkistan
     
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    saty Tihar Jail Banned

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    Yup their 54 yr old proput marries a 6yr old girl, thying&massaged till she was 9yr old and then consumed the marriage.In the modern terms he would be arrested as pedophile except Islamic republic of Pakistan,thank god they rejected the bill.
     
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    Ideally an adult Paki should pick his wife,while she is playing with toys and should be below 10, he should (try) consummate the marriage before Girl's puberty.

    It should've been included Fundamental duties and directive principle of state policy for Paki Awam.
     
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    sasum Atheist but not Communists. Senior Member

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    Child marriage is rampant even amongst Hindus, in rural areas of Rajasthan, Poorvanchal, M.P., Jharkhand, Bihar, Orissa, Waste Bengal and UP.
    Although it is officially illegal, (Khap) Panchayats turn nelson's eye.
     
  10. Sakal Gharelu Ustad

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    People like you serve as the best useful idiots for Pakis.

    India has a law against child marriage, while Pak does not. Matter closed.
     
  11. Keshav Murali

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    "Signs" of puberty at age 9?

    WTF

    Well, at least they are honest about their shamelessness.
     
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    sasum Atheist but not Communists. Senior Member

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    I have already mentioned "it is illegal" in India but still widely practiced. That makes it all the more reprehensible than Paki action. Don't act cocky. People like you make others poke fun at us. Apply mind.
     
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    ...unlike some conceited RSS types.
     
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    Widely practised- give source or just boot out.

    Yes. Condoning child marriage i.e. paedophilia openly is less reprehensible than few illegal cases!! Only self-hating morons can make such statements.
     
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    It is not even an RSS issue. It is no where written in Hindu scripture and hence there is no need to defend it unlike Mohammed consuming his marriage with Aisha when she turned 9 years old. The primary reason why this law was not passed.
     
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    sasum Atheist but not Communists. Senior Member

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    Here is the source. Do you even understand Child Marriage and Paedophilia are not same? If married children stay apart and pursue their studies etc. till they attain majority, there is no case of Paedophilia?
    https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Child_marriage_in_India#Statistics
     
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    Did you even read the link yourself that you posted? In 2011 it is less than 3.7% for marriage below 18 years. And you really want to beat everyone around using that figure and call it widespread. Even there the mean is 16.5 for those below 18: http://www.censusindia.gov.in/vital_statistics/SRS_Report/9Chap 2 - 2011.pdf

    And Pak allows marriage at 16. No matter how you want to put it, your arguments are pretty weak and just a result of your low self-esteem.

    I know enough about child marriage. In most cases girl stay with her parents and comes to boy's house after some years and the ceremony is called "gona".
     
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    sasum Atheist but not Communists. Senior Member

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    Oh! made a profound observation.. Pak wants to make it at 16 and Indian average is 16.5. As for my quoted data being of 2011, I give you the 2013 stat. 47% Indian girls are married off before 18 which in any case is child marriage. I suspect this figure is higher becoz in villages births are not always registered.
    http://www.icrw.org/child-marriage-facts-and-figures
     
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    Dude, read the figures. The latest figures come from census 2011 and not survey data. It is the best information you can get.

    Indian average is around 21. 3.7% get married below 18 and 16.5 was average for those 3.7% and not for all Indian girls. Even for the worst case in India, this figure is higher than pak's legal age 16. Read the attached PDF in my last post for full details.

    For village below 18 is around 4.4% while for urban around 1.5%.

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  20. Panjab47

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    Nothing wrong with child marriage, especially when both are young. The girl doesn’t go to her groom house until many years later. Many Gurus had marriage before 14. Who cares? Prevents premarital sex, bastard children etc.

    Going by IGS though it is wrong & I think that's problem. Everything must be judged by international gora standard first before it can be contemplated.
     
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    sasum Atheist but not Communists. Senior Member

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    I admit nothing wrong in child marriage if the girl remains at her parents' place..but calling child marriage as Paedophilia in the heading of the thread is nothing but hate-mongering. I don't care if I am banned for not toeing the line of moderators but the rustic ways of the moderators are only eroding credibility if this forum.
     

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