anti-Hindu article by a NRI Bhodrolok

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  1. Das ka das

    Das ka das Tihar Jail Banned

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    Once a year since 1950, India tries to convince the world (and itself) that it is indeed a superpower, with an epic show that takes over the grandest road in India, the Rajpath in New Delhi. The Republic Day parade celebrates India's nationhood with pomp and circumstance. This year, however, there has been a flurry of calls to boycott the event. For the first time, the Indian middle class is disassociating itself from this hoopla. The barbaric Delhi gang rape in December may have been the trigger, but, beyond that, there is widespread disappointment with law and order and the political class.

    The appeal for a boycott started on social media. It was soon labelled anti-national by traditionalists. Not surprising in a country riven down the middle, but the fault lines are not Hindu-Muslim, class or gender based; the breach is between two Hinduisms.

    Hinduism is an odd religion. It works very well as a way of life but no longer works as a faith. It's too old, too corrupt, has moved too far from its raison d'être. For the educated urban Indian, Hinduism is a cultural rather than religious identity. They embrace all that's enjoyable about the Hindu way of life: the festivals, the food, the colourful mythology, sophisticated classical music and dance. They may go through the motions of worship on occasions but have no real faith in their pantheon of gods and goddesses, some of whom are decidedly strange. Nor do they follow the proscriptions that have crept into Hinduism over the centuries. Practised thus, Hinduism is the most laidback and accommodating of religions.

    But there is the "other" Hinduism thriving in the small towns and villages of India, a harsh, religion that oppresses women and the "lower castes". The dark side of India's economic boom is that the largely uneducated adherents of this form of Hinduism are pouring into every corner of India. They are on a collision course with the laissez-faire middle-class Hindus of the cities. These often "upper caste" Hindu men of the hinterland pour into the cities in droves, where they find themselves disabused of their fondest beliefs, such as their superiority over women. That's when atrocities against women – such as the recent outrages that have shaken India – happen. And the resurgent Hindu fundamentalist parties and publicity-hungry self-styled holy men manipulate these zealots for their own ends.

    Hinduism as a way of life works; it is inclusive and fun. It could knit the nation together but, in the face of the orthodox onslaught, it lacks bite. Enter the Brahmo movement. The Brahmos were 19th-century reforming crusaders, Hindus who sought inspiration from global liberal philosophies as well as the best traditions of Christianity and Islam to weed out the corruption that had crept into Hinduism. They were monotheistic and women were at the core of their crusade. Brahmo women were ordained as priests and became literary lights in Bengal. Together with their men, they agitated successfully for an end to the funeral practice of "sati" (the burning of the widow on her husband's funeral pyre. Like all reforming movements, there was a zeal about the movement that could, if resurrected in India now, combat the rise of the uglier face of Hinduism.

    My family is a microcosm of this principle in practice. With an atheist Hindu (entirely possible in India) father and a Brahmo mother, our family prized girls: we were educated thoroughly and brought up to be equal (if not ever so slightly superior) to men. Four generations of women from our family excelled at university, learned to question everything, yet also embraced the energy and exuberance of myriad Hindu festivals.

    But Brahmos, for all their progressive qualities, were puritanical and censorious about some of the things that define India: colour, gaiety and sensuality. Stamping out all that's joyful about India would not cure its ills, but a large dollop of Brahmo liberality into the larger cauldron of Hinduism would help make it a more equitable society.

    This fusion of exuberance and tolerance has been practised for scores of years by the educated Indian middle class, but without real awareness of what's in the mix. The apathetic middle class has just begun stirring from a decades-long sleep, but if it could harness the energy of the independence-era reformers to stem the rot, could real change be far behind?

    On Republic Day, consider that India's real split is between two Hinduisms | Comment is free | guardian.co.uk
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    This was posted on the Guardian.
    So now the Delhi gangrape is blamed on Hinduism! Another three cheers for secularism!
     
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  3. Ray

    Ray The Chairman Defence Professionals Moderator

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    She is not a bhodhrolok.

    She is a bodhromohila!

    Lots of difference - gender! ;)

    Obviously she will try to distance herself from India - check the surname!
     
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    ''Shreya Sen-Handley'' the name says it all, another apologetic+ pseudo-secularist intellectual+converte,(Slave :yield:) writing another illogical amateuristic article in a English Daily,(no surprise). According to this ass of a journalist, Brahmo movement was inspired by Islam and Christianity what a piece of :bs: the entire article is an amalgamation of western stereotype of Hinduism. Just one note i have to add,''HINDUISM WAS THE FIRST AND WILL BE THE LAST OF THE FAITHS''. :dharma:
     
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    sesha_maruthi27 Senior Member Senior Member

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    This is just another plot to divide the people of INDIA. This is crap and is not worthy enough to discuss about.......
     
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    Where does secularism come in to play here OP? We have gotten into a bad habit of branding every person based on their thoughts and beliefs and more so if they are contrary to ours.
     
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    Is this the complete article or just an extract because it made no ----ing sense at all.

    Starts with an image of Ganesh.
    Something about the Republic Day and gang rape.
    Then about middle class and a way of life.
    Then how awesome her family is.
    Then how it is not that great.
    Then something about the middle class again.

    *Brits are happy with the article though(comments)*
     
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    Because secularism when defined in the Indian context is the blatant vilification of the Hindoos and cowardly appeasement of the pampered minorities.
     
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    I liked spikey360's suggestion. Lets change what is not real to real. Lets stop playing by rules set by others against us and start taking advantage of them:thumb:
     
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    Whoever wrote this wants to convey that only hindus and hinduism is responsible for rapes...
    Add picture of a hindu god..bring in caste based issues...bring in condition of women in villages and those who do not belong to India will think Hinduism is root cause of rapes in India...this is best example of pathetic journalism...
     
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    Article by a British lackey ( add her religion) who earns her 'RoZi Roti' living amongst them.

    To impress white masters there is nothing better than Hindu bashing being a vulnerable white wannabe brown.

    Enough said.
     
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    Shreya Sen-Handley -- Here's the catch

    I read the article doesn't make sense to me poor writing skills, no substance only assumptions.
     
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    I agree. This article is incoherent, and apparently the author was inundated with too many thoughts with no logical link between these thoughts. I am confused as to what the article is trying to convey.
     
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    hello_10 Tihar Jail Banned

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    people on this article are discussing about "SATI" also...... I dont have enough time but I have a standard post regarding this topic, while concerning British arrival in India by 1818, when they won over Marathas, as below. those who have time may get few key points from my post as below :-

    My Comment on SATI:

    it were the main 15 years, 1813 to 1828, of the top of SATI only, when we found around 1.3 murders per 1 million population of India every year. which was for 'only' 15 years of its peak, when British then controlled that "non-Hindu Regime" of Bengal....... and also, as most of those SATI were in fact because of "self willingness", it is more correct to call those murders, the 'suicide' cases of 1.3 per million during peak of those 15 years...

    (for 450million population of India by 1818, and on average around 550 murders due to SATI during its peak of 1818 to 1828, mainly in Bengal....)

    hence here, for example if we compare 1.3 murder per million due to SATI in between 1813 to 1828, with the financial center of Pakistan, Karachi, where we find around 6-7 'Target Killing's on average every day, means around 1000 murders per 8 million population of Financial Center of Pakistan, then it comes around 125 murders per million in today's modern time in Karachi. means around 100 times more murders than peak of SATI, due to the 'Target Killing' culture of Karachi. the SATI, which was allowed under the 'non-Maratha' regime of India, the Maratha, who controlled around 85% of India till 1819, excluding Bengal till then :ranger:

    here, SATI was limited to Bengal area only, no where else, and for a certain time period only and only for those of Bengal who believe in it. it was supported by those rulers of Bengal who were themselves not hindus while even if hindu Marathas controlled over 80% India during that time, there was no case found in their region.


    => it is because SATI isn't part of Hinduism, even the top most lords of Hindu, Ram and Sri Krishna, were against cast system. all these SATI or Cast was made by powerful people only, to feed their human mentalities to remain on top on the basis of race, which was 'social' practice not religious . (like how White Christians usually discriminated with Christian Blacks till mid 20th century.) Marathas never allowed SATI except few cases which were not known, like how the numbers were very less, almost none, in Maratha's state of India who controlled 80% Indian areas that time........


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    The Messiah Bow Before Me! Elite Member

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    if a dfi member farts in a meeting then if he is looked down upon then also he will blame secularism because afterall everyone must equally inhale his fart :pound:
     
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    Actually Brahmo Smaj was inspired by Christianity and today's many Brahmo Samjies are professing Christianity!

    Nonetheless, if she would have written something like this about the 'pious faith' then surely she would have found her head on a spike!
     
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    Shreya Sen-Handley

    Another Bobby Jindal. Duh !
     
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    They must keep writing shits! its good to become Tolerant .. it shows us the way to become more "Modern Society" :D
     
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    Would request the posters to make a dedicated thread for posting stories with anti-Hindu rants.

    All such threads have same conclusion and same answers. It would help reduce a lot of clutter on the forum.
     
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    KS Bye bye DFI Veteran Member

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    These kind of rants while whitwash our psitive aspects and hyper-exaggerate the negatives give a very negative publicity to the Western audience and reinforces the stereotypes of Hindus (and by extension Indians) as snake charmers and casteist bigots

    She is doing a great disservice to her land. But then I also understand the need to earn one's bread.
     
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    Her bread gets thicker when she gets publicity. Thus she should be ignored.
     

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