Andaman and Nicobar Command should get a fleet: CINCAN

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  1. AVERAGE INDIAN

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    KOLKATA: The Andamans and Nicobar Command (ANC) should be in control of a complete naval fleet to effectively counter any threat from China, vice admiral P K Chatterjee, commander-in-chief, Andaman and Nicobar (CINCAN), said in Kolkata on Monday. He was in the city as chief guest during the launching ceremony of a Landing Craft Utility (LCU) at the Garden Reach Shipbuilders and Engineers (GRSE). The LCU is the second in a fleet of eight such vessels being built by GRSE for ANC.

    "The ANC was created in 2001. Certain thoughts went into creating this tri-services command and these are enshrined in the policy documents. Apart from the ships that we now possess, we require Command and Control Ships and submarines. In fact, we require an entire fleet. I know that this isn't an easy task. It is important to create infrastructure to support assets. At the same time we must ensure that infrastructure doesn't lie idle. Sufficient infrastructure is required for our existing assets as well as those we host from other commands," Vice Admiral Chatterjee said.

    He pointed to the fact that over the last two years, the footprints of 'India's northern adversary' has extended into the Andamans Sea. This has been through the Malacca Strait. The situation will get critical once a canal is built through the Isthmus of Kra.

    "There are far too many interested parties and the canal through the Isthmus of Kra will certainly become a reality. Once this happens, the distance from the South China Sea to our territory will be reduced by nearly 1,300 km. The distance of the Andamans and Nicobar Island from the mainland will remain the same though. In this way, our reaction time will be comparatively reduced. I am sure that the Government of India is aware of this issue and taking necessary action. I feel things will happen," the CINCAN said.

    The Isthmus of Kra is the narrowest part of the Malay Peninsula. It is only 44 km wide and a canal through it in southern Thailand will allow ships to bypass the Malacca Strait, one of the busiest shipping channels in the world. While this canal holds a lot of promise for shipping and trade, it is fraught with danger for countries like India that would hardly get any time for preparations in case of aggressive intentions on the part of China. According to Vice Admiral Chatterjee, creating better infrastructure in the ANC wouldn't add to defence spending.

    "Just as there are 'fronts' along land borders, everybody - including the residents of the Andaman and Nicobar Islands — should consider the ANC a maritime front which needs to remain at a constant state of alert. Defence spending won't increase due to the ANC. It will all depend on how equipment is placed. Existing assets only need to be relocated. If submarines are deployed in the ANC, infrastructure will have to be created. This will take time due to several issues like land acquisition. I would say that we are stronger in the Andamans than we were five years ago. But, we shouldn't rest on our laurels," the CINCAN, who is also the country's senior-most submariner said.

    Andaman and Nicobar Command should get a fleet: CINCAN - The Times of India
     
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    This should have been done 5 years ago. AND should have a naval base that can host 10-12 capital ships and 6-8 subs including Nuke subs.
     
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    So many things to do.

    Let's hope the economy picks up and we can then afford to expand and modernise in a big way.
     
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    More important then fleet is Infrastructure >>

    1. Floating repair docks ..
    2. Infantry emplacements ( Concrete ) ..
    3. Cruise & SAM Missile batteries ..
    4. Artillery emplacements ( Concrete ) ..
    5. Gunships and Armour ( Overhaul facilities and stations ) ..
    6. Electronic Mines at vital beach landing zones ..
    7. Airstrips with Bomb proof bunkers ..
    8. Multiple surveillance radar stations ..
     
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    Fill the Andaman with bastion/Brahmos ASCM/Nirbhay ASCM systems in hardened shelters and complement that with a multi layered sir defense system consisting of multiple S-300/400class systems along with Akash and Python add super green pine radars from Israel to track incoming aircraft and ships at ranges upto 900km alongwith a Russian 29B6 providing radar coverage upto 3,000km then build hardened shelters to house at least a complete division of fully equipped troops along with light mechanized armor. Add at least four squadrons of super Sukhois and a similar number of dedicated destroyers/cruisers and SSK/SSN's and you're good to go:p

    P.S for added effect i suggest we get two Kirov class Battlecruisers and one more Akula built in Russia and station them there as well.

    Oh well my wet dream is done:D
     
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    With the Chinese plan to build the canal in the Isthmus of Kra (Thailand), the area around the Andaman and Nicobar will be chockablock full as it will the the second and more favourable conduit to the Pacific from the Indian Ocean than the Straits of Malacca.

    It will also attract much naval activities of foreign nations and some o fit would be inimical to Indian interest.

    Therefore, a full fledged triservice presence, hence Military Command, become essential in Andaman and Nicobar group of islands.

    In teh event of conflict, both the Isthmus of Kra and the Straits of Malacca would have to surveilled and hostile naval presence blocked and routed.
     
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    It would be good if we build up military relations with Malaysia and Singapore. Work towards a NATO type arrangement for surveillance and intelligence sharing with the two countries. This will reduce our logistics footprint and increase reaction time. This could easily double or triple our intelligence assets in a very short time.
     
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    Malaysia tends to be pro Chinese in its approach since their economy is Chinese Malay controlled.

    Singapore may have quite a few Chinese, but the western influence prevails.
     
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    True, but these are interesting times considering the maritime dispute.

    http://defenceforumindia.com/forum/...erious-threat-chinas-security.html#post946385

    U.S. Navy may station ships in Singapore, Philippines | Reuters

    They want American military presence in their territories. They will definitely welcome Indian support.
     
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    Without getting into details, suffice it so say that Singapore is more concerned with Malaysia and Indonesia and so the US presence.

    Malaysia has denied allowing P8 being based on its soil.
     
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    That's fine. We can work out an intelligence setup on a quid pro quo basis. We spy on everybody and let them know what Indonesia is doing, they let us know what China is up to. Their geographic location is pretty good to spy on the Chinese, while they will struggle doing the same on Indonesia. I'm not saying only we should benefit out of this relationship.

    I'm pretty sure the Americans want the same in relation with Singapore. They will spy on the Chinese and will expect Singapore to do the same.

    Then what other countries are options?

    Vietnam isn't particularly close to Kar, but any Chinese ships will have to travel past them. They can be great in providing early warning. With enough surveillance equipment delivered by Russia, they could spy on Chinese subs too. Their proximity to Hainan will be a blessing in disguise.

    Thailand is an option, they are a major non-NATO ally. And Thailand-China relations are poorer than before. They have been buying a lot of European and American equipment.

    So I guess it's only these two apart from Malaysia and Singapore.
     
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    Actually Thailand is warming up with China and getting financial aid as also assistance for her railway. They are acting cool with the US.

    Vietnam is getting anti Chinese.

    And you are right all are spying on each other.
     
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    good long range radars and sonars which are KEPT ON 24*7*365
     
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