'Ancient Indian Planes Could Travel From One Planet to Another'

[amoy]

a Chinese word "chana" often in use meaning instant or a split second actually is from Sanskrit "ksana".

 

[salute]

I know that you are excellent of showing old Indian inventions and glorious kingdoms as a proof of "Indian Greatness", but isn't this a little too much. Try to make the Tejas ready first and concentrate on these planes later. Maybe Tejas project was also actually started already that time? Talk about long development period...

its posted here to mock it and not to believe on it.

 

[Kunal Biswas]

Do improve your English for better understanding --- please.

I agree that you have inferiority issues. I think you also can grow healthy self esteem as time goes by.

 

[jouni]

You should contact Rauni-Leena, she had flewn with these intergalactic vessels and also shares a lot similar views than Indians.


Luukanen-Kilde has claimed to have been "rescued" from danger by extraterrestrials, and to have esoteric skills and knowledge as a result of her relationship with them. She maintains that there is a secret exchange program between humans and aliens that is being deliberately suppressed by "powerful Western governments", particularly the United States.[1] Luukanen-Kilde also claims there are secret military and intelligence agencies practising mind control technology on the world population using cell phones and supercomputers and that a plot to kill most of the Earth's population using the swine flu vaccine is being carried out by the WHO, Henry Kissinger, and the Bilderberg Group.[6] Her article on cybernetic implants as a means of control is widely circulated.[7] She appears in the 1999 film Revelations: The End Times, Volume 2

Rauni-Leena Luukanen-Kilde - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia

 

[Razor]

a Chinese word "chana" often in use meaning instant or a split second actually is from Sanskrit "ksana".

Yeah kshana is a very small unit of time (a tiny fraction of a second.) It can also mean as you say "instant" or "moment."

So

kshana (samskrit: moment) ==> chana (chinese: moment) and
dhyana (sanskrit: meditate) ==> Chan (chinese), zen (japanese) and
cha (chinese languages: tea) ==> Chai (Indian languages)

There are probably many more esp. relating to Buddhism.

 

[salute]

I know that you are excellent of showing old Indian inventions and glorious kingdoms as a proof of "Indian Greatness", but isn't this a little too much. Try to make the Tejas ready first and concentrate on these planes later. Maybe Tejas project was also actually started already that time? Talk about long development period...

it will be completed then AMCA stealth fighter and then FGFA stealth fighter and maybe more ahead as now india is setting up aero-space industries in both govt. and pvt.sectors.

 

[Free Karma]

Guys @Mad Indian @Peter and others interested.

I once heard the story of a princess named Revati.
The princess was so beautiful, her father decided that he will ask Lord Brahma for his advice of the best man for the princess.

When the king and the princess arrived at Brahma;s abode, Brahma was watching a celestial dance (kinda like a party), so they waited for the dance to get over.
After sometime the dance was over and the king got a chance to speak to Brahma and he said to Big B that her daughter was too good and he needed Big B's advice on which of these men (that the king had preselected) would be best for her.
Brahma started laughing and said that all these men have perished and so have their children and their grand-children. In fact even their lineages have perished. The king was astonished and saddened.
Then Brahma told him that it's okay relax, Krishna and Balarama are present on Earth now. Go quick.

Anyway the point is the idea of time dilation is discussed here and it was discussed by so called "modern" world at the time of Einstein onlee (relativity.)

Interestingly in that story when the King and Princess go back to their realm on Earth they see that mankind has actually degraded. The environment shittier, man smaller and dumber. So who knows. But atleast the princess gets Balarama. :thumb:

This story is the story of King Kakudmi Kakudmi - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia

There are many other similarities. Here is another one noted by Erwin Schrodinger, from one of his his essays

You may recall the Schrödinger's Cat paradox, which was first published in its "scientific form" in 1935 in Zeitschrift der Physick. However in his 1925 essay he recounts an ancient Sankhya Hindu paradox that, jazzed up with some technology, became the cat paradox. In that original form the paradox was cast in the form of two people, one looking at a garden, the other in a dark room. The modern equivalent would be one person looking in the box to see if the cat is alive or dead, while a second person waits out in the hall. As we discussed, in this modern form the state "collapses" for the first person while it does not collapse for the second person.

In 1925 Schrõdinger resolved that paradox the way the Vedantists did: he asserted that all consciousness is one. As he wrote:

"But it is quite easy to express the solution in words, thus: the plurality [of viewpoints] that we perceive is only "an appearance; it is not real. Vedantic philosophy, in which this is a fundamental dogma, has sought to clarify it by a number of analogies, one of the most attractive being the many-faceted crystal which, while showing hundreds of little pictures of what is in reality a single existent object, does not really multiply the object."

Here is another fragment of that essay:

"... you may suddenly come to see, in a flash, the profound rightness of the basic conviction of Vedanta: ... knowledge, feeling and choice are essentially eternal and unchangeable and numerically one in all men, nay in all sensitive beings."

Do you think that Schrödinger had such a flash of insight? Is this the sort of insight which in the Eastern traditions is sometimes called enlightenment?

Finally, Schrödinger himself makes an interesting analogy between Vedantic philosophy and modern physics:

"If finally we look back at that idea of Mach [that `the universe is not twice given'], we shall realize that it comes as near to the orthodox dogma of the Upanishads as it could possibly do without stating it expressis verbis. The external world and consciousness are one and the same thing."

In another essay he also talks about some interesting arguments between Hindus and buddhists, and the wave/particle nature of light arguments he was having with heisenberg.

In the 5th century of the current era, there was a bitter argument in India between the Sankhya Hindus and the Buddhists about the nature of Universal Flux. Debates were held which lasted for days, and would attract huge crowds. According to the Buddhists:

The phenomena consist of an infinity of discrete moments following one another almost without intervals.... There is no matter at all, flashes of energy follow one another and produce the illusion of stabilized phenomena. The universe is a staccato movement.

while according to the Hindus:

The phenomena are nothing but waves or fluctuations standing out upon the background of an eternal, all-pervading undifferentiated Matter with which they are identical. The universe represents a legato movement.

Reference: F. Theodor Stcherbatsky, Buddhist Logic, Vol I, pg 83.

Even allowing for the possibility that Schrödinger's Wave Mechanics may have been influenced by Hindu philosophy, the parallels between the Buddhist-Hindu argument and the Heisenberg-Schrödinger aesthetic clash are striking.

Development of Quantum Mechanics
A lot of these people were deeply influenced by vedantic thought.


@Peter That is Sage Kanada, he founded the school of philosophy called the Vaisheshika philosophy, there are other things he/his followers did too, apart from the early atomic theory:

With some research it is found that a few mantra written by Kanada resemble Newton's law of motion.

वेगः निमित्तविशेषात कर्मणो जायते |
Meaning : Change of motion is due to impressed force.

वेगः निमित्तापेक्षात कर्मणो जायते नियतदिक क्रियाप्रबन्धहेतु |
Meaning : Change of motion is proportional to the impressed force and is in the direction of the force.

वेगः संयोगविशेषविरोधी |
Meaning : Action and reaction are equal and opposite.

A large number of these theories currently only have the theoretical side of things, people always ask for equations etc when we talk about such things and rightfully so, because that is what science ultimately comes down to.

The problem is that these equations are quite easy to miss/mathematical calculations, due to them being encoded.

It was considered hard to remember a random bunch of numbers, and referring to a book every single time for these is again tedious. So they invented a system in which could numbers could be coded into easy to remember poetry:
Katapayadi system - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia - present in pretty much every single language. This would be one of the basic things taught to them in school and hence become near second nature to decode sentences.

Example of PI upto 32 places by applying the above system:
गोपीभाग्यमधुव्रात-श्रुग्ङिशोदधिसन्धिग ॥
खलजीवितखाताव गलहालारसंधर ॥

And here are the values of Sin (jiva) put down in the form of a poem:
Madhava's sine table - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia

 

[Peter]

This story is the story of King Kakudmi Kakudmi - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia

There are many other similarities. Here is another one noted by Erwin Schrodinger, from one of his his essays

Erwin Schrodinger and Robert J. Oppenheimer all were well versed with Indian spiritual texts like Vedas.

 

[jouni]

Erwin Schrodinger and Robert J. Oppenheimer all were well versed with Indian spiritual texts like Vedas.

Does the word "Biarmi" has any meaning in India? First laplanders were called Biarmi in ancient times. For me it sounds very Indian word.

Of the Religion of the Laplanders

 

[amoy]

The atomism theory is also fascinating.

References to the concept of atomism and its atoms are found in ancient India and ancient Greece. In India the Jain,[6][7] Ajivika and Carvaka schools of atomism may date back to the 6th century BCE.[8] The Nyaya and Vaisheshika schools later developed theories on how atoms combined into more complex objects.[9] In the West, atomism emerged in the 5th century BCE with Leucippus and Democritus.[10] Whether Indian culture influenced Greek or vice versa or whether both evolved independently is a matter of dispute.[11]

The particles of chemical matter for which chemists and other natural philosophers of the early 19th century found experimental evidence were thought to be indivisible, and therefore were given the name "atom", long used by the atomist philosophy.

Atomism - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia

 

[Free Karma]

Here is how stupid the media is

Note:Astronomy.

 

[AnantS]

Guys concept of time dilation/relativity is so beautifully hinted in Bhagwad Geeta.
sahasra-yuga-paryantam
ahar yad brahmano viduh
ratrim yuga-sahasrantam
te 'ho-ratra-vido janah
Meaning:
Those who know that a day of Brahma (in the highest realm dimension of Brahmaloka), lasts a thousand Yugas, and the night, also lasts a thousand Yugas' duration, know day and night.

Today Modern Science talks of multiverse. In Ancient Indian Scriptures they talk of multiple Brahmands. In Indian ancient literature context, "Brahmand" is the name given to universe. Notice that the name Brahmand literally means Brahma's Egg("Brahm" + "aand"). Because think they believed each universe is egg shaped.

 

[pkroyal]

Theoretically if one can manage to journey in a spacecraft that can travel at the speed of light, the ageing process will slow down ?

Any points on this??

 

[Bangalorean]

Theoretically if one can manage to journey in a spacecraft that can travel at the speed of light, the ageing process will slow down ?

Any points on this??

Let alone speed of light, if you travel at a certain speed, time slows down for you. This happens everyday to minute unmeasurable extents. In the GPS satellites, which orbit the Earth at high speeds, time passes slower. If this time slowdown is not accounted for, GPS devices will slowly go off track and keep getting more and more inaccurate.

 

[pkroyal]

Time is normally considered the fourth dimension of reality

other three being, length, width & depth ( occupying space)

Thus things on Earth exist in a Time .Space continuum.

I feel there is a fifth dimension - Consciousness(awareness of being)

If consciousness can be suspended, altered, tampered with , experimented with, extended, curtailed etc in a non linear way,the experiments repeated under controlled conditions with same results then we are on the way to breakthrough research.

It is consciousness which makes us perceive the other dimensions of being !!

 

[salute]

hollywood made a science fiction movie on 'VIMANA'

The Objective (2008) - IMDb

 

[Peter]

Theoretically if one can manage to journey in a spacecraft that can travel at the speed of light, the ageing process will slow down ?

Any points on this??

Yes the ageing process will slow down. At a speed greater than light the person will start to go back in time. However one cannot travel in a spaceship which has a speed greater than light. So such things cannot happen

Faster-than-light - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia.

 

[Barak2]

It needs to basically grow because at the end these are the things which does matter and certainly comes around with a better outcome.

 

[Sakal Gharelu Ustad]

Let alone speed of light, if you travel at a certain speed, time slows down for you. This happens everyday to minute unmeasurable extents. In the GPS satellites, which orbit the Earth at high speeds, time passes slower. If this time slowdown is not accounted for, GPS devices will slowly go off track and keep getting more and more inaccurate.

How does it matter for GPS devices? They give location and not time. Unless it screws up their orbit, I do not see why time would matter.

 

[Khagesh]

GPS signal itself is based on Time of Flight principle to calculate Time of arrival delays for the radio signal. As soon as the signal about place of a sat is given out there is embedded in it a time of making that signal also. You cannot do the difference of arrival of many different signals, to be used subsequently for calculations, unless the time is perfectly clocked for the signal itself.

Then after that you do trilateration/multilateration.

So yes GPS geolocation and time are intimately connected.

GPS receiver devices do not tell time probably because that was a problem not worth tackling for the GPS designers. GPS system can certainly tell where you were (your device was) at x point in time in the history that they maintain. That kind of data is require for SAR imaging and map making.