Ancient Astronaut Theory

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    Ancient Astronaut Theory


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    Most people believe in aliens - from ancient visitors to modern day extraterrestrials who visit Earth with an agenda. Clearly the creation myths of each ancient civilization discuss alien gods who descended from the sky for any number of reasons, some of who allegedly mated with human woman to create bloodlines, or created humans through biogenetic experiments. In the duality of physical reality, there would be good aliens and bad aliens - who would have great battles, just as we do while visiting here.

    Ancient aliens, as we envision them based on endless physical evidence found across the planet, does not actually refer to a group of extraterrestrial beings who came here once upon a time, but is more about those who create the consciousness hologram in which we experience and learn. Reality is consciousness created in the matrix of time to study emotions. As we search for the truth behind the illusion about who created humans and other sentient life forms, we look to those who came from the stars - ancient astronauts or creation gods.

    One must never forget that if there are indeed extraterrestrials who are physical beings after a fashion, and that creation continues beyond their agendas. They are a sub-routine, for lack of a better word, within our programmed reality. Call it a Grand Design, Master Plan, or whatever term comes to mind, but remember, it had a beginning and is rapidly approaching its end. Watch the signs - internal and external.

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    Zecharia Sitchin - Anunnaki Theory of Creation

    Did ancient astronauts seed the human race? If so, what was their agenda? Have these ancient astronauts used planet Earth as a place for their 'science projects', creating race after race using biogenetic manipulation, then wiping everything out and starting again?

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    According to ancient alien theorists, most of whom have researched the topic for decades, extraterrestrials with superior knowledge of science and engineering landed on Earth thousands of years ago, sharing their expertise with early civilizations and forever changing the course of human history. To this day researchers look for evidence to support this theory.

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    Ancient alien theory grew out of the centuries-old idea that life exists on other planets, and that humans and extraterrestrials have crossed paths before. The theme of human-alien interaction was thrust into the spotlight in the 1960s, driven by a wave of UFO sightings and popular films like 2001: A Space Odyssey (1968). The space program played no small part in this as well ... if mankind could travel to other planets, why couldnÕt extraterrestrials visit Earth?

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    Also in 1968, Swiss researcher and author Erich von DÅ niken published Chariots of the Gods, which became an immediate bestseller. In it, he put forth his hypothesis that, the technologies and religions of many ancient civilizations were given to them by space travelers who were welcomed as gods. He is regarded by many as the father of ancient alien theory, also known as the ancient astronaut theory. Since that time, he has written many other books and appeared in media presenting physical proof of his theories. In 2010 he appeared in the History Channel mini series, "Ancient Aliens".


    Ref: Ancient Astronaut Theory, Ancient Alien Theory - Crystalinks

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    The types of evidence von DÅ niken cites can be categorized as follows:

    The existence of structures and artifacts have been found which represent higher technological knowledge than is presumed to have existed at the times they were manufactured. DÅ niken maintains that these artifacts were produced either by extraterrestrial visitors or by humans who learned the necessary knowledge from them.

    These artifacts include the Moai of Easter Island
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    Egyptian Pyramids
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    Stonehenge
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    Submerged Cities thousands of years old
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    Humans could not have designed and constructed them

    The medieval map known as the Piri Reis Map
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    allegedly shows the Earth as it is seen from space

    Nazca Lines of Peru
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    which von DÅ niken believes was a landing strips or airfield

    Art History
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    Interpretations of ancient artwork throughout the world as depictions of astronauts, air and space vehicles, extraterrestrials, and complex technology. DÅ niken also describes elements that he believes are similar in art of unrelated cultures.


    Explanations for the origins of religions as reactions to contact with an alien race, including interpretations of the Old Testament of the Bible. According to von DÅ niken, humans considered the technology of the aliens to be supernatural and the aliens themselves to be gods. DÅ niken asks if the oral and literal traditions of most religions contain references to visitors from stars and vehicles traveling through air and space.

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    These, he says, should be interpreted as literal descriptions which have changed during the passage of time and become more obscure. Examples such as: Ezekiel's revelation in Old Testament, which he interprets as a detailed description of a landing spacecraft with angels in the likeness of man. Moses and the directions 'God' gave him to construct the Ark of the Covenant, which is assumed to be a communication device with an alien race. Lot and his extended family being ordered by human like 'angels' to go to the mountains, due to the destruction of the city of Sodom by God. His wife looked back at the possible nuclear explosion, and falling "dead on the spot". DÅ niken attempts to draw an analogy with the "cargo cults" that formed during and after World War II, when once-isolated tribes in the South Pacific mistook the advanced American and Japanese soldiers for gods.

    If aliens visited Earth in the past, could they make an appearance in the future? For ancient alien theorists, the answer is a resounding yes. They believe that, by sharing their views with the world, they can help prepare future generations for the inevitable encounter that awaits them.

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    In China we find theories about an alien race
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    called the Dropa who left behind fascinating discs.

    The Mayan - Popol Vuh, states,
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    "Men came from the stars, knowing everything, and they examined
    the four corners of the sky and the Earth's round surface."
    One has to wonder where the ancient Maya got their advanced
    knowledge in astronomy, mathematics, and other physical sciences.

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    The Mayan Chilam Balaam texts stated,
    "Beings descended from the sky in flying vessels...
    white men in flying rings, who can touch the sky."

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    Petroglyphs

    Petroglyphs found on cave and mountain walls in many parts of the world,

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    imply that ancient aliens may have visited the planet.

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    In the News ...

    Glittering, unlooted 1,200-year-old royal tomb found in Peru MSNBC - June 27, 2013
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    Images of winged beings adorn a pair of gold-and-silver ear ornaments that a high-ranking Wari woman wore to her grave. Archaeologists found the remains of 63 individuals, including three Wari queens, in the imperial tomb at El Castillo de Huarmey. Gold and silver riches from more than a millennium ago have been found in Peru, within what appears to be the first unlooted tomb of South America's Wari civilization, researchers reported Thursday. The dramatic find is being revealed at a news conference at the El Castillo de Huarmey archaeological site, 175 miles (280 kilometers) north of Lima.


    Amazingly Untouched Royal Tomb Found in Peru Live Science - June 27, 2013
    A rare, undisturbed royal tomb has been unearthed in Peru, revealing the graves of three Wari queens buried alongside gold and silver riches and possible human sacrifices. Though the surrounding site has been looted many times, this mausoleum has managed to evade grave robbers for hundreds of years, archaeologists say. Long before the Inca built Machu Picchu, the Wari empire flourished between A.D. 700 and 1000 throughout much of present-day Peru. At a time when Paris had just 25,000 residents, the Wari capital Huari was home to 40,000 people at its height, according to National Geographic, which reported the find.


    Cave Art Reveals Ancient View of Cosmos Live Science - June 27, 2013
    Some of the oldest art in the United States maps humanity's place in the cosmos, as aligned with an ancient religion. A team of scientists has uncovered a series of engravings and drawings strategically placed in open air and within caves by prehistoric groups of Native American settlers that depict their cosmological understanding of the world around them. "The subject matter of this artwork, what they were drawing pictures of, we knew all along was mythological, cosmological," Jan Simek, an archaeologist at the University of Tennessee said. They draw pictures of bird men that are important characters in their origin stories and in their hero legends, and so we knew it was a religious thing and because of that, we knew that it potentially referred to this multitiered universe that was the foundation of their cosmology.

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    Old Story

    Pope's astronomer says he would baptise an alien if it asked him
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    The Guardian, Friday 17 September 2010

    LINK: theguardian.com/science/2010/sep/17/pope-astronomer-baptise-aliens

    An alien – 'no matter how many tentacles it has' – could have a soul, says pope's astronomer

    Aliens might have souls and could choose to be baptised if humans ever met them, a Vatican scientist said today. The official also dismissed intelligent design as "bad theology" that had been "hijacked" by American creationist fundamentalists.

    Guy Consolmagno, who is one of the pope's astronomers, said he would be "delighted" if intelligent life was found among the stars. "But the odds of us finding it, of it being intelligent and us being able to communicate with it – when you add them up it's probably not a practical question."

    Speaking ahead of a talk at the British Science Festival in Birmingham tomorrow, he said that the traditional definition of a soul was to have intelligence, free will, freedom to love and freedom to make decisions. "Any entity – no matter how many tentacles it has – has a soul." Would he baptise an alien? "Only if they asked."

    Consolmagno, who became interested in science through reading science fiction, said that the Vatican was well aware of the latest goings-on in scientific research. "You'd be surprised," he said.

    The Pontifical Academy of Sciences, of which Stephen Hawking is a member, keeps the senior cardinals and the pope up-to-date with the latest scientific developments. Responding to Hawking's recent comments that the laws of physics removed the need for God, Consolmagno said: "Steven Hawking is a brilliant physicist and when it comes to theology I can say he's a brilliant physicist."

    Consolmagno curates the pope's meteorite collection and is a trained astronomer and planetary scientist at the Vatican's observatory. He dismissed the ideas of intelligent design – a pseudoscientific version of creationism. "The word has been hijacked by a narrow group of creationist fundamentalists in America to mean something it didn't originally mean at all. It's another form of the God of the gaps. It's bad theology in that it turns God once again into the pagan god of thunder and lightning."

    Consolmagno's comments came as the pope made his own remarks about science this morning at St Mary's University College in Twickenham. Speaking to pupils, he encouraged them to look at the bigger picture, over and above the subjects they studied. "The world needs good scientists, but a scientific outlook becomes dangerously narrow if it ignores the religious or ethical dimension of life, just as religion becomes narrow if it rejects the legitimate contribution of science to our understanding of the world," he said. "We need good historians and philosophers and economists, but if the account they give of human life within their particular field is too narrowly focused, they can lead us seriously astray."

    The pope's astronomer said the Vatican was keen on science and admitted that the church had got it "spectacularly wrong" over its treatment of the 17th century astronomer Galileo Galilei. Galileo confirmed that the Earth went around the sun – and not the other way around – and was charged with heresy in 1633. He spent the rest of his life under house arrest in Tuscany. Only in 1992 did Pope John Paul admit that the church's treatment of Galileo had been a mistake.

    Consolmagno said it was a "complete coincidence" that he was speaking at the British Science Festival at the same time as the papal visit.
     
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    @kseeker Have you watched Ancient Aliens on History Channel ? It is telecasted daily. There must be videos on youtube. Quite inane, I must say.
     
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    @kseeker.. No offence but Ancient Aliens reminded my of this meme guy. I think he appears on that show truespirit mentioned.

    Here's a summary of his thought process:

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    On a more serious note, that website crystalinks, I visited it a couple of times several years back. I must say I did not find it very reliable one.
     
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    The last couple of posts were hilarious memes, I used to see the ancient aliens docus on youtube...this guy did look weird.

    By the way, does anyone know of Shivkar Bapuji Talpade, who is supposed to have created a flying craft and flown it. Apparently it was attested by a high court judge and the then raja of Gwalior. His sole source of technical information was the right interpretation of the vaimanika shastra.
     
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    It's important to know that mythological stories about the cosmos and their depiction in art by our ancient cultures should/must not be fancied as truth.

    Our forefathers cannot be faulted at seeing the vast skies above them and thinking of heavens and Gods existing above the skies. It's wishful imagination, nothing more.

    If Aliens did visit us, it should be given due credibility only when we have retrieved some artifacts that could be proved beyond doubt as having extraterrestrial origins. Our own race has ensured that our artifacts have been left behind wherever we've been to, like Venus, Moon, Mars etc. Why haven't these so-called aliens done so??

    Are intergalactic space travels depicted in our films and books real? Are stories of magic and vampires and werewolves real? There are a few who believe in these too, and IMO, those who believe in Ancient Astronaut theories also belong to the same category.

    And why exactly is it that these "aliens" have to be necessarily humanoid? Why should they be thought of as wearing NASA-like space-vests? These are no different than our conditioning to view ourselves as the pinnacle of evolution, leading us to visualize 'God' too as a Humanoid entity.
     
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    Yeah, I do watch those episodes occasionally.

    I would not say that series as inane however, that made me curious !
     
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    None taken ;)
     
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    I heard about Shivkar Talpade.

    Here are some articles about him and his research.

    Ancient Vimana Aircraft

    A flight over Chowpatty that made history - Times Of India

     
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    Those are the kind of questions, Erich von Däniken tried to find answers for.

    He had written many books on those aspects as well. Few might find them as mind boggling, few might simply rule out the possibilities or the theories he has proposed and name it as absurd.
     
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    When it comes to Alien theories, there's no credible evidence anywhere ! All the articles, theories etc... are speculations in the first place.
     
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    Only problem is that Erich Von Daniken is nowhere unbiased about the subject. He willfully manipulates the scenario to suit things as he sees from his perspective.

    ALL of the supposed loose ends that point to extraterrestrial help can actually be explained in a rational manner as the work of Humans. But He sees the work of aliens everywhere. He ends up doubting every technological improvement of our forefathers as the work of aliens, which is really idiotic to say the least.

    Our forefathers were far more ingenious and resourceful than what we give them credit for today.
     
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    I agree with you to some extent ! However, one cannot simply ignore the questions he has asked and how he tried to relate them to ancient artifacts. Not everything which he says is absurd.

    If our forefathers were far more ingenious and resourceful than what we are at present, why there is such a void between their era and present era ?

    Why the knowledge was not transferred from one generation to another ? What went wrong in between that made modern humans to reinvent wheel all over again ?
     
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    It can be attributed to the really primitive approach of our forefathers towards preserving their work and to robustly document their scientific and technological progress. Also, our forefathers were sticklers for secrecy and tradition. Only a Brahmin could learn the Vedas, an Ayurveda practitioner only taught his most trusted disciple all his knowledge etc.

    Wars have played their part too. Often in the past, the technology and knowledge of a vanquished country/culture would be totally lost after conquest. There are instances of large, great libraries and Universities of old destroyed during/after conquest.

    I would not be surprised if, In future, some Nutjob started this theory that between 1800s and 2000s, Men received help from Aliens. How could a species that used to fight on horse-back with swords develop so fast as to invent things like Transistors, Nukes and ICBMs?? ALIENS!:lol:

    Even today, we have ultra-modern technology existing side-by-side in regions which still look like they're from the middle ages. Don't we?
     
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    A lot of the narrative in these videos, especially when it comes to cultures outside of Europe tends to be one of omg these guys knew about science/astronomy/math concept? before us??" not possible! hence aliens!

    I agree with @Phantom people from ages gone are kind of under estimated.in terms of abilities. For example..did you know that modern day plastic surgery was totally based of methods suggested by sisruta in 800 bc! British surgeons studied the books and replicated the same in England in the late 19th century, and from there on it evolved further.
    A lot of information is lost due to conquest and hatred You know the fate of Takshila university to islamic invaders...similar things happened all around the world, and the books and people lost basically meant starting from scratch all over again
     
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