Analysts see Pakistan terror links to Xinjiang attack

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In South Xinjiang Uigurs is a majority overwhelmingly. Among those who were killed by terrorists was a Uigur policeman. Not really a clash btwn Uigurs and Hans - what Mujahideens want is a 'pure' Islamic state without Hans, Mans or even Huis (Muslim too). Such riots happened again and again historically and in 1920-40's even got supported by Soviet Union (Red Army was directly involved) in addition to Turkey. It's really a fiasco of CCP's appeasing policies since 1979 reform including encouraging 'indigenous' culture instead of enforcing Mandarin/secular education, and allowing Saudi and Kuwait to fund Mosques. The government must get really heavy handed against terrorism under whatever flags. Or many more Hotans will be made Grozny.

In many cities there're Uigur peddlers... Recently I saw one Uigur roll out a carpet and get on his knees praying on sidewalks. And in a Moslem restaurant the owner was chanting Koran loudly... Women wearing turbans... I used to regard such phenomena as natural of pluralism... But we really need to get wary now of religious extremism creeping into their minds poisoning our lives even in coastal areas.

As for Pakistan connection in this incident so far only Indian media has alleged so. It's still subject to further identification
It's good still you can't see through the smoke; as pakistani mercenary (shameless) army says, "you will not even know, what hit you".......and you are a perfect case!
 

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You dont understand anything then, Pakistan is friends with you only because you both hate India. "Enemy of your enemy is your friend" is a good proverb only as long as the common enemy is a threat. In foreign relations there is no such thing as friendship only mutual interests as they say. Pakistan is friend of China also because they have no other options, US wont supply weapons to Pak to use against India any more, Russia wont supply weapons either, they are pals with China only out of desperation. If India was not part of Asia then Pakistan would have been your arch enemy supporting the Uygurs.

Their ideology is to fight for Islam be it against America, India or even China. Pakistan was a close friend of US long before China was but we all know how it betrays the US time and again. For a Muslims and Uygur muslim is his brother and that is why the fanatic muslims inside ISI support the Uygurs against China. All this wont sink into you now anyway.

You compare India supporting Dalia Lama to Pakistan supporting violent terrorists, then your out of your mind.
US just handed a Perry class frigate to Pakistan, is that a sign that US won't give any more arms to Pakistan? Russia is busy supplying RD-93 turbofan to be fitted on JF-17, another sign Pakistan is being isolated? There is no denying that there are elements inside the pakistani state machine that hold extreme view and are connected to the various terrorist organizations, but it is wrong to generalize this to the pakistani government as whole.

As Dalai Lama and his seperatist movement or the radical islamists, which is more dangerous, depends on where you stand. From china's point of view Dalai and his gangs pose a far greater danger to China. Relatively speaking, China is quite safe from islamists terrosist attacks for the following reasons:

1. In china, the muslim populations don't mix with the han majority who populate the more prosperous eastern part

2. uigurs look different, and han chinese generally view strangers with suspiction from onset, thus it is very difficult for them to infiltrate into the general population

3. islam has very little appear to most chinese who are usually among the least religious, even in ancient times.


BTW, uigurs are ethnically not related to the pakistanis, if they were, it would be a whole different situation.
 

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sigh~~~, I must say that this religion threats China much more than anything else. Even China and India conflict, it won't be large threat to the exist of both country. but this religion could kill BOTH Country internally. If you visit their website, you will see their ambition and plan to "Green" the whole China. China is much too soft to deal with this kind of terrist action.
 

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The people of this religion is increasing very fast. If a Han married to a muslim, no matter man or woman, he/she will be required to change their belief to muslim and their children will be 99% to be a a muslim. Hehe, perhaps,the China's muslim population will be as much as India or pakstain in the near future. And perhaps, like happened in other place, we will be driven out of the place where our civilization is founding.
 

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In South Xinjiang Uigurs is a majority overwhelmingly. Among those who were killed by terrorists was a Uigur policeman. Not really a clash btwn Uigurs and Hans - what Mujahideens want is a 'pure' Islamic state without Hans, Mans or even Huis (Muslim too). Such riots happened again and again historically and in 1920-40's even got supported by Soviet Union (Red Army was directly involved) in addition to Turkey. It's really a fiasco of CCP's appeasing policies since 1979 reform including encouraging 'indigenous' culture instead of enforcing Mandarin/secular education, and allowing Saudi and Kuwait to fund Mosques. The government must get really heavy handed against terrorism under whatever flags. Or many more Hotans will be made Grozny.

In many cities there're Uigur peddlers... Recently I saw one Uigur roll out a carpet and get on his knees praying on sidewalks. And in a Moslem restaurant the owner was chanting Koran loudly... Women wearing turbans... I used to regard such phenomena as natural of pluralism... But we really need to get wary now of religious extremism creeping into their minds poisoning our lives even in coastal areas.

As for Pakistan connection in this incident so far only Indian media has alleged so. It's still subject to further identification
still you want to continue being friends with the biggest terrorist nations of them all? your good wish.

may be you chaps wont have enough of it till the time you guys have your share of 9/11, and the investigation take you to pakistan, and the terrorist organizations and security agencies there? one hopes better sense prevails before that happens.

the source is hindu, which in many ways is a commie propaganda newspaper, anti indian national government and they are on many occasions propagating the chinese propaganda in india. had this news come from some other source would have i written it off the way you have, but coming from hindu, i am pretty sure they are talking to concerned people mentioned in the report within china.
 

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1. In china, the muslim populations don't mix with the han majority who populate the more prosperous eastern part
Tony, u are very wrong. Muslims everywhere in China! And I pinpoint Uigurs, every main city, not to mention others like Hui...

Historically Muslims mingle with non-Muslims well peacefully. But... fundamentilism is reviving fueled by petrodollars. Many short-sighted Mandarins haven't heard the buzzz
 

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1. In china, the muslim populations don't mix with the han majority who populate the more prosperous eastern part

2. uigurs look different, and han chinese generally view strangers with suspiction from onset, thus it is very difficult for them to infiltrate into the general population
So in short, Han majority, is suspicious of Uighur minority, so according to you China is for Hans, rest all should be eliminated
 

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the source is hindu, which in many ways is a commie propaganda newspaper, anti indian national government and they are on many occasions propagating the chinese propaganda in india. had this news come from some other source would have i written it off the way you have, but coming from hindu, i am pretty sure they are talking to concerned people mentioned in the report within china.
I don't think your anti-Communism remarks add no credit to the credibility of Hindu

U sound trying to tell ah, Hindu is pro-Commie, so it must be pro China, ah ha so it must have some insider info from China. Really?

Yet to see other sources outside India
 

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It's the age of islam awakening, no doubt. But China is relatively safe, for the timebeing at least. India on the other hand is not so lucky. Here is why:

India has a huge muslim population, numbering as many as 200 millions, 2nd only to Indoneisa. Most of them are probably modest, but even 1 out of 100 becomes a radical, you suddently have couple millions of jihadis to deal with.

In India muslim and hindu live side by side, and they all look alike. Thus it is quite easy for a terrorists to blend in and carry out their acts.

India was a islam colony before the brits came. Don't think the muslims have forgotten about it, for them conquering India is not about openning the new frontiers, but rather getting back lost land.

Indians are religious, thus islam have a more broad appeal to them than it would have elsewhere.

There are probably a lot more, but I just list thse few here.
 

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Tony, u are very wrong. Muslims everywhere in China! And I pinpoint Uigurs, every main city, not to mention others like Hui...

Historically Muslims mingle with non-Muslims well peacefully. But... fundamentilism is reviving fueled by petrodollars. Many short-sighted Mandarins haven't heard the buzzz
Yes, but they are tiny tiny minority, and they are not even Uigurs. In places around the Yangtze delta dnd pearl river delta, they are almost nonexistent. Blacks in Guangzhou probably pose bigger trouble than the Uirgurs do.
 

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^^^You don't sound like a Chinese, I could be wrong however.
 

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Where did I say this?
You clearly said, Hans see Uighur with suspicion, so majority of Chinese don't like the minority. In a sense they don't accept them as part of China.
 

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uigurs look different, and han chinese generally view strangers with suspiction from onset, thus it is very difficult for them to infiltrate into the general population
You are calling the minority of your society "Strangers" that are viewed with suspicion and that it is very difficult for them to mix with the "General" population.
I got it. Thanks
 

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the source is hindu, which in many ways is a commie propaganda newspaper, anti indian national government and they are on many occasions propagating the chinese propaganda in india. had this news come from some other source would have i written it off the way you have, but coming from hindu, i am pretty sure they are talking to concerned people mentioned in the report within china.
off topic but d u want to say that hindus like to have ccp style government/system functioning in india . or they are just extreme socialist and anti-capitalist and supports left parties
 

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Wise chinese donot even spare a little kid.

 
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Those terrorists were pathetic even hijacking kids for their crimes. Thanks to police hostage was saved. Born and living in a coastal city never did I hear of any terrors here. Never do we want a Grozny, or a Mumbai (ref. recent terror attack in Bombay) in China. So nip terrorism or Jihad in the bud.
 

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