An Otherworldly Discovery: Billions of Other Planets

[LETHALFORCE]

All these other worldly discoveries are meant for us to keep dreaming.

It is not relevant to us in any way.

Unless there is some sci fi type futuristic discovery like worm hole, we can never hope to reach even the nearest planetary system.

Colonizing mars? Do most people know about the weather and other planetary conditions on on mars?If we have no plans of colonizing the Sahara desert or Antarctica why would we colonize Mars?

I would rather dream of colonizing the Moon.

If we don't keep exploring we will never know the possibilities??

 

[Dovah]

It is not relevant to us in any way.

There would be no satelites if we hadn't though of venturing into space, no TV, no GPS, no cellphones.

Colonizing mars? Do most people know about the weather and other planetary conditions on on mars?If we have no plans of colonizing the Sahara desert or Antarctica why would we colonize Mars?

Artificial biospheres could be created with the advancement in technology(nano tech, biotech). This all for the future and perhaps possible then.

 

[Param]

If we don't keep exploring we will never know the possibilities??

Exploring through Telescope is oK, from an astronomy point of view.
The rest is just dreaming.

There are better things for us to explore closer to home.

 

[civfanatic]

a famous scientist Robert Zubrin said there are 3 types of civilizations
type A -controls their planet
tybe B -controls their solar system
type C-controls their galaxy

we are probably not even type A at this point in time??

It depends on what you consider to be a 'civilization'. If you consider humans as a whole to have a civilization (including all the various cultural/regional differences), then we are definitely a 'Type A' civilization. No other species comes anywhere near dominating this planet besides us.

 

[LETHALFORCE]

There would be no satelites if we hadn't though of venturing into space, no TV, no GPS, no cellphones.



Artificial biospheres could be created with the advancement in technology(nano tech, biotech). This all for the future and perhaps possible then.

There is also something called terraforming -Planetary engineering. Where maybe introducing CFC's or CO2 can heat up the planet to higher temperatures and melt ice to produce water??

 

[Dovah]

Exploring through Telescope is oK, from an astronomy point of view.
The rest is just dreaming.

There are better things for us to explore closer to home.

110 years ago we couldn't fly a plane, no we have unmanned missions to Mars. This is just 100 years, think about 1000

 

[LETHALFORCE]

It depends on what you consider to be a 'civilization'. If you consider humans as a whole to have a civilization (including all the various cultural/regional differences), then we are definitely a 'Type A' civilization. No other species comes anywhere near dominating this planet besides us.

we are a type A civilization but many things still remain -controlling weather,getting rid of disease, famine etc...

 

[Param]

There would be no satelites if we hadn't though of venturing into space, no TV, no GPS, no cellphones.

Reaching 150 kms Perigee above the surface of the Earth is different from inter Galactic travel and colonization.

Artificial biospheres could be created with the advancement in technology(nano tech, biotech). This all for the future and perhaps possible then.

Then lets create such a life supporting Biosphere in the most our deserts and waste lands first.

 

[LETHALFORCE]

Exploring through Telescope is oK, from an astronomy point of view.
The rest is just dreaming.

There are better things for us to explore closer to home.

Once you have explored everything there is to explore in your house you step outside and start exploring your block.

 

[civfanatic]

We know more about distant galaxies than we do about our own brain!

 

[Dovah]

Reaching 150 kms Perigee above the surface of the Earth is different from inter Galactic travel and colonization.

We have reached Mars

Then lets create such a life supporting Biosphere in the most our deserts and waste lands first.

But this would render the whole concept of space exploration moot. Countries do have bases in Antarctica don't they? Now think 100 years back.

 

[LETHALFORCE]

At one time it took 3 months to cross the Atlantic by boat to the new world(America). Today it is done daily in 5 hours.

 

[Param]

But this would render the whole concept of space exploration moot. Countries do have bases in Antarctica don't they? Now think 100 years back.

Man reached S.Pole a century ago on dog sedges.Like I said earlier lets find a way to permanently colonize Anatarctica and the Sahara desert for meaningful Human occupation.

Present antarctic bases are just seasonal and experimentational set ups.

 

[LETHALFORCE]

Man reached S.Pole a cemtury ago on dog sedges.Like I said earlier lets find a way to permanently colonize Anatarctica and the Sahara desert for meaningful Human occupation.

Present antarctic bases are just seasonal and experimentational set ups.

Humans are forced to keep progressing and move forward whether we want to or not. In 100 years Human population on Earth may reach 35 billion are there any other contingency plans when this happens??

 

[Dovah]

Man reached S.Pole a cemtury ago on dog sedges.Like I said earlier lets find a way to permanently colonize Anatarctica and the Sahara desert for meaningful Human occupation.

Permanent colonization could be possible if the ice caps weren't melting. Now that we have a presence on the caps we may go a step further. but what if we wouldn't have even attempted it in the first place since it was irrelevant? For human race to survive we need to explore the space.

Present antarctic bases are just seasonal and experimentational set ups.

Exactly,but they are there. Who is to say that they won't evolve into something bigger.

 

[Param]

Humans are forced to keep progressing and move forward whether we want to or not. In 100 years Human population on Earth may reach 35 billion are there any other contingency plans when this happens??

If it reachs even half that number mankind will collapse.
Population growth will eventually stabilize.

Btw settling in Mars cannot be a contingency plan. Like I have been asking for a long time if we cannot make our inhospitable wastelands suitabe for human occupation, how do we hope to do that in Mars?

Intergalactic travel is out of the question unless a worm hole is invented purely for this purpose.

 

[Dovah]

Intergalactic travel is out of the question unless a worm hole is invented purely for this purpose.

It takes energy of an exploding star to keep the wormhole open, theoretically.

 

[LETHALFORCE]

If it reachs even half that number mankind will collapse.
Population growth will eventually stabilize.

Btw settling in Mars cannot be a contingency plan. Like I have been asking for a long time if we cannot make our inhospitable wastelands suitabe for human occupation, how do we hope to do that in Mars?

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Intergalactic travel is out of the question unless a worm hole is invented purely for this purpose.

There is no economic incentive to develop many of our wastelands on Earth while there are plenty for developing Mars. Even before Mars Moon should be first.

 

[Param]

It takes energy of an exploding star to keep the wormhole open, theoretically.

That puts an end to intergalactic colonization.

 

[Nagraj]

not really . it gives us one more challenge :

That puts an end to intergalactic colonization.