An Ideal Recce aircraft for COIN?

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  1. Ray

    Ray The Chairman Defence Professionals Moderator

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    This could be an excellent recce aircraft for BSF and CRPF ops against Maoists.
     
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    so they have weaponised a guilder ,the problem is can it even survive small arms fire
     
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    Can be made as safe as a helicopter, which is the current mode for recce.
     
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    They do not need Reece aircraft but to carry out Reece themselves on their two lags and stay in jungles rather than in their cosy camps ?
     
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    Against Maoist no combat aircraft is cable enough. Even the UAVs or UCAVs. There fore the best Practice is to train more commandos and use them to infiltrate the jungles the Maoist hide and carry out jungle combat ops in long term to eliminate them.
     
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    The price seems very high even at 1/3 the cost of an Apache.
     
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    Ray The Chairman Defence Professionals Moderator

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    In India, terrorist or Maoist, use of heavy weapons and aircraft by Security Forces is not allowed.

    If it were allowed, what could stop India doing a Sri Lanka way of elimination of the LTTE?

    Aerial recce only allows pinpointing locations and movement and directing ground security forces in that direction.
     
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    That is what is the inhibitor.
     
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    HeinzGud Senior Member Senior Member

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    LTTE acted as a conventional army! thats why heavy weapons and aircraft had be used against them. If they acted as pure guerrilla army as they acted in '80s small commando/elite forces teams would've been enough to counter them in long term.

    We should also remember that even IPKF underestimated LTTE and used their conventional army and suffered a humiliating defeated.
     
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    LTTE was hardly a conventional force. They were as guerilla as guerillas can be.

    Was Mao's Long March chaps a conventional army?

    IA was not humiliated. They operated under constraints of both the Indian and the Sri Lankan Govt.
     
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    Well it's actually true but when some terrorist organization amass 1000+ cadres for raids against a well established military bases, use heavy mortars and artys, posses an elite naval arm plus aircrafts that could drop bombs it should be classified as a conventional armed force.

    well maybe close to that!
     
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    Kunal Biswas Member of the Year 2011 Moderator

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    Its a extremely good solution for recce, The flare Pod will give hi res image away from small arm fire, Operational cost of M17 and Dhruv are very high compare to this, CRPF have fewer Dhruvs and need maintenance on regular basis causing them to operate for limited Periods, And not all helos are operational at one time..

    This light recon aircraft will be a good advantage, I wonder why not to make one in India..



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    Home made aircraft with home made flair pod..

    Quick and cheap so does reliable..
     
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    Kunal Biswas Member of the Year 2011 Moderator

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    You need to stop it..
     
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    Kunal Biswas Member of the Year 2011 Moderator

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    Ideas anyone..
     
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    Ray The Chairman Defence Professionals Moderator

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    Indeed!

    Thank heavens we were not in the league of being accused of Genocide as Sri Lankans were!
     
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    How Mr. Biswas sir you justify the fact that Maoist hidden in thick jungle??? Can the flare pod be useful then??
     
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    NCC Rugged Glider Modifications ?

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    1. More power full engine
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    One can try out on this one for 100% sure..
     
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    I don't have to justify here, One need to see where and how they operate to come up with this idea..

    In short you should know the terrain and the enemy tactics..
     
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    Good advise coming from someone who never entered jungles of Vavunia. STF was town based and SLA could only enter jungles after IPKF broke LTTE backbones in Vani after heavy casualties !!

    Do not worry opportunities will come again to prove your mettle.
     
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    Hahahahahahahahah.......................... :rofl:hic.................. hahahahahahaha............. :rofl:

    I don't knw how to reply dude.... I surely don't knw!
     

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