America warns, Nawaz advises for peace talks with TTP

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As an american I pretty well know how America feels,, Pakistan is walking a very fine line...

Pakistan and the rest of the world need to unstand this very firmly indeed: A restrained U.S. response to the location of Bin Laden and the Mumbai terrorist attacks in 2008 has only been possible because no successful terrorist attack based from Pakistan has in fact yet struck the United States. Faisal Shehzad's attempt in New York was—thank God—amateurish to the point of clownishness. If after what has now been revealed about Bin Laden's location, the United States does suffer a major Pakistan-based attack, then all the political and moral constraints on U.S. retaliation against Pakistan will fly out of the window. No matter what the risks involved, Pakistan will have to be treated as an open enemy, and punished very severely indeed. So it is not for our sake that the Pakistani military should help to track down the remaining al-Qaeda leadership in Pakistan and prevent terrorist plots against the West. It is very much for their own. There is just so far they can push America and after that we dont care what happens we go to war.,
 

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why are indians so pissed off by him?
i mean he's more pro india than nawaz
i dont have problem with IK. infact i like him. but iam telling you the truth, he will not come in power.

as he is not ready to share and alone he will not get majority
 

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As an american I pretty well know how America feels,, Pakistan is walking a very fine line...

Pakistan and the rest of the world need to unstand this very firmly indeed: A restrained U.S. response to the location of Bin Laden and the Mumbai terrorist attacks in 2008 has only been possible because no successful terrorist attack based from Pakistan has in fact yet struck the United States. Faisal Shehzad's attempt in New York was—thank God—amateurish to the point of clownishness. If after what has now been revealed about Bin Laden's location, the United States does suffer a major Pakistan-based attack, then all the political and moral constraints on U.S. retaliation against Pakistan will fly out of the window. No matter what the risks involved, Pakistan will have to be treated as an open enemy, and punished very severely indeed. So it is not for our sake that the Pakistani military should help to track down the remaining al-Qaeda leadership in Pakistan and prevent terrorist plots against the West. It is very much for their own. There is just so far they can push America and after that we dont care what happens we go to war.,
ISi is being involved in killing american/nato soldiers in afghanistan on weekly basis?
do you want any other reason as well?

are you in the position to even stand against 20k odd taliban for the next 10 years?

be it a war or be it whatever we want to cease relation with america.at any cost.even if we had to die.we cant hold relation anymore with backstabbers.

we don't want you anymore please leave us on our own.
we just don't give a f*** about you anymore
 

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ISi is being involved in killing american/nato soldiers in afghanistan on weekly basis?
do you want any other reason as well?

are you in the position to even stand against 20k odd taliban for the next 10 years?

be it a war or be it whatever we want to cease relation with america.at any cost.even if we had to die.we cant hold relation anymore with backstabbers.

we don't want you anymore please leave us on our own.
we just don't give a f*** about you anymore
We can handle it if you can handle a 1000 drones over head 24/7

and several sections of Pakistan spliting off. Kashmiris in PoK Revolt Against Pakistani Rule - Video Dailymotion
 

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We can handle it if you can handle a 1000 drones over head 24/7

and several sections of Pakistan spliting off. Kashmiris in PoK Revolt Against Pakistani Rule - Video Dailymotion
i am sure this is not a joking section

and please read about Gwadar port and close future china's influence as well as naval base in gwadar
meanwhile pakistan has also offered warm water access to russia

so your dream will remain a dream forever

Zardari offers Russia access to warm waters | The Nation

but we dont need them

mark my words if IK is selected
*you wont be in position to go for drone strike as the moment they enter.we might have locked them with your own supplied aim 9
*you wont be in position to even get closer to pak like north korea has threatened to nuke you once kpc-3 ssbn gets read with upto 12slbm and a dozen Cruise missiles
*america is not what it was before getting into invading taliban

your days are long gone
and we are not afraid of you anymore.afghanistan war is a clear proof what you guys are capable of and what your technology can do.

GTH and leave us alone
 

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World News
Pakistan: A Terrorist State
May 5, 2011 10:00 PM EDT
This time, the facts on the ground speak too loudly to be hushed up.

Supporters of the pro-Taliban party shout anti-US slogans at a protest in Quetta on May 2, 2011, after the killing of Osama Bin Laden. (Banaras Khan / AFP-Getty Images)


Osama bin Laden died the day after Walpurgisnacht, the night of black Sabbaths and bonfires. Not an inappropriate time for the Chief Witch to fall off his broomstick and perish in a fierce firefight. One of the most common status updates on Facebook after the news broke was "Ding, dong, the witch is dead," and that spirit of Munchkin celebration was apparent in the faces of the crowds chanting "U-S-A!" on the night of May 1 outside the White House and at Ground Zero and elsewhere. Almost a decade after the horror of 9/11, the long manhunt had found its quarry, and Americans will be feeling less helpless now, and pleased at the message that his death sends: "Attack us and we will hunt you down, and you will not escape."


Many of us didn't believe in the image of bin Laden as a wandering Old Man of the Mountains, living on plants and insects in an inhospitable cave somewhere on the porous Pakistan-Afghanistan border. An extremely big man, 6 feet 4 inches tall in a country where the average male height is about 5 feet 8, wandering around unnoticed for 10 years while half the satellites above the earth were looking for him? It didn't make sense. Bin Laden was born filthy rich and died in a rich man's house, which he had painstakingly built to the highest specifications. The U.S. administration confesses it was "shocked" by the elaborate nature of the compound.


We had heard—I certainly had, from more than one Pakistani journalist—that Mullah Mohammed Omar was (is) being protected in a safe house run by the powerful and feared Pakistani Inter-Services Intelligence Directorate somewhere in the vicinity of the city of Quetta in Baluchistan, and it seemed likely that bin Laden, too, would acquire a home of his own.


In the aftermath of the raid on Abbottabad, all the big questions need to be answered by Pakistan. The old flimflam ("Who, us? We knew nothing!") just isn't going to wash, must not be allowed to wash by countries such as the United States that have persisted in treating Pakistan as an ally even though they have long known about the Pakistani double game—its support, for example, for the Haqqani network that has killed hundreds of Americans in Afghanistan.


This time the facts speak too loudly to be hushed up. Osama bin Laden, the world's most wanted man, was found living at the end of a dirt road 800 yards from the Abbottabad military academy, Pakistan's equivalent of West Point or Sandhurst, in a military cantonment where soldiers are on every street corner, just about 80 miles from the Pakistani capital of Islamabad. This extremely large house had neither a telephone nor an Internet connection. And in spite of this we are supposed to believe that Pakistan didn't know he was there and that Pakistani intelligence and/or military and/or civilian authorities did nothing to facilitate his presence in Abbottabad while he ran Al Qaeda, with couriers coming and going, for five years?


Pakistan's neighbor India, badly wounded by the Nov. 26, 2008, terrorist attacks on Mumbai, is already demanding answers. As far as the anti-Indian jihadist groups are concerned—Lashkar-e-Taiba, Jaish-e-Muhammad—Pakistan's support for such groups, its willingness to provide them with safe havens, its encouragement of such groups as a means of waging a proxy war in Kashmir and, of course, in Mumbai, is established beyond all argument. In recent years these groups have been reaching out to the so-called Pakistani Taliban to form new networks of violence, and it is worth noting that the first threats of retaliation for bin Laden's death were made by the Pakistani Taliban, not by any Qaeda spokesman.


India, as always Pakistan's unhealthy obsession, is the reason for the double game. Pakistan is alarmed by the rising Indian influence in Afghanistan, and fears that an Afghanistan cleansed of the Taliban would be an Indian client state, thus sandwiching Pakistan between two hostile countries. The paranoia of Pakistan about India's supposed dark machinations should never be underestimated.


For a long time now, America has been tolerating the Pakistani double game in the knowledge that it needs Pakistani support in its Afghan enterprise, and in the hope that Pakistan's leaders will understand that they are miscalculating badly, that the jihadists want their jobs. Pakistan, with its nuclear weapons, is a far greater prize than poor Afghanistan, and the generals and spymasters who are playing Al Qaeda's game today may, if the worst were to happen, become the extremists' victims tomorrow.
 

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Pakistan right now is on the edged of being designated as a failed terrorist state and being ostracised and being treated as a pariah state, like an Iran without oil with thousands of drones flying overhead 24/7.
 

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@average american

you have posted this on some 10 different threads and in many other forum.

If killing of unarmed poor chaps in iraq is what you call the superiority of your military.otherwise even against AK47 equipt taliban you guys are crying
 
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are you in the position to even stand against 20k odd taliban for the next 10 years?

be it a war or be it whatever we want to cease relation with america.at any cost.even if we had to die.we cant hold relation anymore with backstabbers.
Amrikans will carpet bomb the shit outta :pig: istan, no need for boots on ground.
In war a winner and loser is judged on the objective achieved. NATO wanted to uproot the Taliban Government in Afghanistan - done; kill every ----ing Al-Qaida member - almost done (those spin-off organizations like AQIM doesn't count ); rebuilding Afghanistan and a better life for it's people - ongoing process.

If they just wanted to Bomb Afghanistan and get the ---- out, that should be called a win right ?
 
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this is a internl matter of Pakistan,usa and afghanistan(WOT)

i don't why indians are acting like haddi in kabab
 

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War in Afghanistan (2001–present) - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia

just look at your loss and be ashamed of being defeated by some odd 25k taliban

even though you call yourself super power
I think you should understand the difference between Taliban and Pakistan, first one is a terror organisation which used to hide and they had to be hounded keeping in mind the safety of innocent Afghan's lives, If US had no respect for innocent Afghans it may have nuked the Talibani area. Period. While the second is a country - Pakistan, unlike Taliban if US fights with you, US wont hesitate in killing innocent Pakistanis or nuking them as it will be a war between two states, their conventional bombings are sufficient to deal with your major cities and win the war triumphantly let alone their nukes. So let them finish Taliban for the sake of your country's future.
 

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I think you should understand the difference between Taliban and Pakistan, first one is a terror organisation which used to hide and they had to be hounded keeping in mind the safety of innocent Afghan's lives, If US had no respect for innocent Afghans it may have nuked the Talibani area. Period. While the second is a country - Pakistan, unlike Taliban if US fights with you, US wont hesitate in killing innocent Pakistanis or nuking them as it will be a war between two states, their conventional bombings are sufficient to deal with your major cities and win the war triumphantly let alone their nukes. So let them finish Taliban for the sake of your country's future.
WOT has created bigger problems for Pakistan

anyway since WOT is about to be stopped even if the next govt is of nawaz/imran.Hence we should rather wait 1 more year and lets see what is the situation after wot being stopped.relation with backstabbers ceased
 

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The thing is US doesn't need to bomb pakistan. If they freeze aid and impose sanctions, that country will degenerate into chaos of the dark ages faster than Brahmos can fly from Delhi to Karachi!! :rofl:
*First of all rickshah missile cannot fly from delhi to karachi because of its range equal to CNG car
*Pakistan is not listed in the world top ten aid recipient countries but india is

Top 10 Nations of Foreign Aid Recipients | Eritrea

India is listed..india is getting aid since 1947 from different countries including japan and UK

remember that since the day UK has suspended aid to india..indian gdp growth rate has reduced from 8.4% in 2011 to 6% in 2012 and now around 5% in 2013

which certainly has proved that your economy is dependent on foriegn aid

while pakistan economy growth rate has reduced onwards recieving the aids from 8.4% growth rate in 2004 to 3.7% in 2012

GHareeb logo ka koi haq ni k aid k khilaaf bat kare

ghareeb log
 

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