America wants independent Balochistan

[ninja85]

the resulting war will spread to afghanistan,pakistan and later india.

yeah, idiot nice dream.

 

[ninja85]

cultural similarities .

are you stupid , indians and afghans don't have any cultural similarities.

 

[W.G.Ewald]

Let's assume US succeed in its plan, then the obvious next target is India, unless we become their lackey.

You already assume that Rustam Shah Mohmand is speaking the truth and knows what he is talking about when he speaks of US "plan."

Is there any independent confirmation of his assertions?

 

[nrupatunga]

US does not support independent Balochistan

The US today said it respects the territorial integrity of Pakistan and does not support independence for Balochistan.

"The United States respects the territorial integrity of Pakistan. It is not the policy of the Administration to support independence for Balochistan," the State Department said in a written response to a question raised during its daily press briefing.

The State Department said it is aware of the comments of a Republican lawmaker from Texas, who in an interview to an American media outlet had said that the best solution to the Afghan problem would be to carve out a separate and independent Baluchistan out of Pakistan.

"Members of Congress express a wide range of views. Such comments do not in any way imply US government endorsement," the State Department said.

Balochistan, the southwestern province of Pakistan, is wracked by Islamist violence and a long-running ethnic separatist insurgency.

 

[nrupatunga]

The balkanisation of pakistan is good for India.Just as 1971 was.

Am not saying bangladesh need not have been formed but why do you feel so?? Though bangaldesh had to separate out, but it is also a threat to india.

 

[nrupatunga]

It is,but it is an easily managed threat.Bangladesh is influenced by us a lot,so any anti India activity can be nipped in the bud,provided our leaders finally decide to.
Now imagine a unified pakistan,we would face those nuclear armed jihadi jahils from both directions,increasing our headache and with the probability that it an turn into a 2 or 3 front war,if a war broke out.Their missiles wouldn't need even 1000 kms to cover the whole of mainland India,include north east in it too which is barely covered by their missiles.
In case of chinese invasion of north east india a unified pakistan would have choked us on the chickens neck along with the chinese,leading us to lose all of NE and saying goodbye to land links with SEA countries.

I am not talking how carving independent bangaldesh in 71 was needed. But why balkanise pakistan now?? Won't india have illegals entering from western border as well?? Again am not saying it shouldn't be done, but want to know your pov behind it.

 

[roma]

https://www.cia.gov/library/publications/the-world-factbook/geos/pk.html

Ref the above article from usa government here are the demographic distribution according to it :-
Punjabi 44.68%, Pashtun (Pathan) 15.42%, Sindhi 14.1%, Sariaki 8.38%, Muhajirs 7.57%, Balochi 3.57%, other 6.28%

So the Pakistan Punjabi group does not have the 60% majority which they did in the 1980's and with Pashtun plus Sindhi = approx 30% of 180 million we have approx 60 million and about 30 million each - easily large enough to be separate nations ..

USA should also look into getting Independence for the Pashto -speaking group . They are through with Punjabi rule and would any day prefer to link up with kith and kin in South Afghanistan - two separate countries - a Pashtun-based
south and a Tajik based north is a strong possibility .. After all it has been the reality in Afghanistan for a long time ( most of the Officers in the Afghan army are Tajik ) .This is actually more easily feasible than independence for Balochistan with a mere 3% demographic.

The idea of blocking the Gwadar port for use by "others" is old hat as PRC has better direct land access to far more importation and reliable sources of energy from Kazakhstan and that region.( including Turkmenistan).so the Gwadar port and PRC access to it via Balochistan is becoming increasingly unimportant.

 

[sorcerer]

Chinese Operations in Balochistan Again Targeted by Militants
A fleet of oil tankers is attacked, as local tensions flare over major development projects.

In an attack on Monday, unknown militants set at least five oil tankers on fire and abducted four drivers reportedly carrying fuel for a Chinese company working on the Saindak Project in Balochistan's Chaghi district, outside the provincial capital Quetta. Police sources said the privately owned tankers were targeted because they supply oil to a Chinese company working on a major project in mineral-rich Balochistan province.

The attack took place as Pakistan prepares to hand over its deep sea Gwadar port to Chinese interests in the coming month. The atmosphere surrounding the handover is tense.

According to reports, militants with sophisticated weapons began firing indiscriminately on the tankers near the Kirdi Gap area of Mastung district late Monday morning. Police and frontier corps are investigating the attack. Efforts have also been made to trace the missing drivers.

Although it was unclear who was behind the incident, and no group has claimed responsibility, local media suggested that Baloch insurgents were involved. Baloch insurgents have for some years been attacking government and private property, including Chinese facilities in Balochistan. Tankers have recently become a preferred target.

The last attack on fuel tankers linked to Chinese operations in Balochistan took place July 14, 2013, when Baloch militants ambushed a convoy of fuel trucks in Chaghi district. A firefight between police guards and insurgents erupted, and four trucks were destroyed.

Chinese companies working in the remote region of Balochistan receive most of their fuel supplies via the Pakistani port of Karachi.

Baloch militants have vowed to attack all multinational companies working on major projects in the troubled Balochistan region. A week ago, militants fired rockets into a military convoy on the outskirts of Turbat. The convoy was guarding a construction company working on the Gwadar-Kashgar route. A truck was destroyed in the attack.

Insurgencies

Multinational companies operating in Balochistan face threats from both a strong separatist insurgency and a sectarian conflict. The Baloch insurgency, which is principally directed at Pakistani armed forces, accuses multinationals of looting Balochistan's natural resources. Foreign companies have been targeted on several occasions. In 2004, three Chinese engineers working on the seaport project were killed in an attack in Gwadar.

Overland trade between Pakistan and China must contend with separatist movements on both sides of the border, in Balochistan and Xinjiang. In Balochistan, separatists are threatening China's ability to gain strategic access to energy-rich regions through the Pakistan-China energy and trade corridor, while Uyghur insurgents could also disrupt development in Xianjiang. These security concerns threaten the viability of the Gwadar port project.

In the meantime, both the Baloch and Pashtun leadership have expressed grave reservations about the proposed 2,395 km highway from Gwadar to Kashgar. Leaders have vowed to join forces in a collective struggle against the proposed highway in the event of any diversion in the route, which was originally planned to pass through Balochistan's key cities of Gwadar, Hoshab, Panjgur, Quetta, Zhob, before continuing on to Khyber Pakhtunkhwa province.

Baloch and Pashtun leaders claim that a proposal to divert the route, bypassing Khyber Pakhthunkhwa and some of the districts in Balochistan, was aimed at providing jobs to Punjabis at the cost of Balochs. They claim that such a route would be of no benefit to the Baloch or Pashtun people. Some independent experts have agreed, arguing that neither the route nor the Chinese-controlled port will yield economic benefits to locals. Abdul Qadir Baloch, Pakistan's minister for the frontier region dismisses such concerns, insisting that the project will not only benefit all Balochistan, but Pakistan and even the broader region.

If successful, China will benefit from Gwadar's accessibility to the Central Asian republics and Xinjiang. By extending its East-West Railway from the Chinese border city of Kashi to Peshawar in Pakistan's northwest, Beijing could send cargo to and from Gwadar along the shortest possible route, from Karachi to Peshawar. The port could also serve as a key piece of China's growing energy infrastructure, cutting in half the distance between China's western provinces and the sea.

Kiyya Baloch is a freelance journalist who reports for the leading Pakistani English newspaper Daily Times in Balochistan and other outlets on foreign affairs and the insurgency, militancy and sectarian violence in Balochistan.

Chinese Operations in Balochistan Again Targeted by Militants | The Diplomat

 

[tarunraju]

If there isn't a war between Pakistan and the US leading up to the separation of Balochistan, then India has every reason to worry. Because then it would be a result of US telling Pakistan "don't worry, we'll carve India up to size, too."