AMCA - Advanced Medium Combat Aircraft (HAL)

[airtel]

he said .............He is making a 5th gen. fighter based on Mig-21 , with Power By wire because it will take less development time as compare to fly by wire Jets .


6 months se ulti seedhi cheeje post kar raha hai aur ye log believe bhi kar rahe hain ..........

& 2-3 days ago someone posted his shit on PDF .

 

[airtel]

India to make stealth fighter
DECCAN CHRONICLE. | A RAGU RAMAN
Published Jan 4, 2017, 1:51 am IST
Updated Jan 4, 2017, 1:51 am IST

TIRUPATI: With the induction of light combat aircraft (LCA) Tejas into the Indian Air Force this year, the Aeronautical Development Agency (ADA) which has jointly developed the fourth generation aircraft with Hindustan Aeronautics Limited (HAL), is now ready to develop the stealth fighter aircraft. “The concept and feasibility study for the Advanced Medium Combat Aircraft (AMCA) has completed and submitted to the government. We are awaiting the government’s approval to develop prototype vehicles (PVs),” P.Ramachandra, director, admin and planning, Aeronautical Development Agency told this newspaper on the sidelines of the Indian Science Congress.

It is designed to be the 25-tonne class aircraft whereas the Tejas is weighing only about 10 tonnes. It will have the range of 2,800 km. “The aircraft will have many stealth features for evading radars and it will have twin-engines,” he said. This was envisioned as a replacement for the British Jaguar and Mirage 2000 which the IAF flies.

According to defence experts, the stealth fighter would be of great help during the initial days of a major war as it will allow the air force to target enemy’s infrastructure such as roads, railways, airfields, radars, headquarters and depots. The Aeronautical Development Agency also plans to showcase the model in the upcoming Aero India exhibition. Indian Air Force ordered 40 Tejas aircraft and 83 LCA Mark-1A aircraft with the HAL. The Air Force also wanted better specifications for LCA Mark-1A like mid-air refuelling and advanced electronic warfare suit.



http://www.deccanchronicle.com/nation/current-affairs/040117/india-to-make-stealth-fighter.html

 

[aditya10r]

India to make stealth fighter
DECCAN CHRONICLE. | A RAGU RAMAN
Published Jan 4, 2017, 1:51 am IST
Updated Jan 4, 2017, 1:51 am IST

TIRUPATI: With the induction of light combat aircraft (LCA) Tejas into the Indian Air Force this year, the Aeronautical Development Agency (ADA) which has jointly developed the fourth generation aircraft with Hindustan Aeronautics Limited (HAL), is now ready to develop the stealth fighter aircraft. “The concept and feasibility study for the Advanced Medium Combat Aircraft (AMCA) has completed and submitted to the government. We are awaiting the government’s approval to develop prototype vehicles (PVs),” P.Ramachandra, director, admin and planning, Aeronautical Development Agency told this newspaper on the sidelines of the Indian Science Congress.

It is designed to be the 25-tonne class aircraft whereas the Tejas is weighing only about 10 tonnes. It will have the range of 2,800 km. “The aircraft will have many stealth features for evading radars and it will have twin-engines,” he said. This was envisioned as a replacement for the British Jaguar and Mirage 2000 which the IAF flies.

According to defence experts, the stealth fighter would be of great help during the initial days of a major war as it will allow the air force to target enemy’s infrastructure such as roads, railways, airfields, radars, headquarters and depots. The Aeronautical Development Agency also plans to showcase the model in the upcoming Aero India exhibition. Indian Air Force ordered 40 Tejas aircraft and 83 LCA Mark-1A aircraft with the HAL. The Air Force also wanted better specifications for LCA Mark-1A like mid-air refuelling and advanced electronic warfare suit.



http://www.deccanchronicle.com/nation/current-affairs/040117/india-to-make-stealth-fighter.html

What is the total requirement of AMCA in the af,h ow many of these will af order????

 

[IndianHawk]

What is the total requirement of AMCA in the af,h ow many of these will af order????

Ideally 200+ more clarity can only come after prototype flies.

After 2035 AMCA will be the backbone of IAF. Numbers can only go up.

That is also why we can not screw this up.
This must be top of the line MCA when serial production begins somewhere in 2020s.

 

[wuzetian]

Ideally 200+ more clarity can only come after prototype flies.

After 2035 AMCA will be the backbone of IAF. Numbers can only go up.

That is also why we can not screw this up.
This must be top of the line MCA when serial production begins somewhere in 2020s.

Agreed . If Mirage 2000s MIG 29k r going to be replaced by AMCA then we need 400 plus .

How far has ADA progressed in acquiring the critical technologies for AMCA like IRST , Super cruise and thrust vectoring engine ?

I had read about a joint venture between gtre and klimov for thrust vectoring engine tech to be made in India. How has things progressed??

 

[IndianHawk]

Agreed . If Mirage 2000s MIG 29k r going to be replaced by AMCA then we need 400 plus .

How far has ADA progressed in acquiring the critical technologies for AMCA like IRST , Super cruise and thrust vectoring engine ?

I had read about a joint venture between gtre and klimov for thrust vectoring engine tech to be made in India. How has things progressed??

Klimov offered for an engine so did others.
I don't know the progress about K9 or K10.

Supercruise and thrust vectoring can not be validated without developing or testing engine

But then they have experience of thrust vectoring thank to su30 and also of FGFA deal finalizes we might get access to supercruise and some stealth features like coating IRST. That should help speed things up for AMCA

 

[Indx TechStyle]

thrust vectoring engine ?

I had read about a joint venture between gtre and klimov for thrust vectoring engine tech to be made in India. How has things progressed??

Hope, it's related because as per MTCR, India already produces thrust vectoring control systems.

 

[IndianHawk]

Hope, it's related because as per MTCR, India already produces thrust vectoring control systems.View attachment 13047

We produce sukhoi engine components which are thrust vectoring. But I am not sure if we have the IP or we have absorbed full know how.

Although we are capable in thrust vectoring for missiles. For Amca it will be a different ballgame.

Problem is we are going to develop a brand new engine for Amca which will have to be regorious tested for every basic thing .

We will have to adopt all know how in new engine framework.

 

[aditya10r]

Ideally 200+ more clarity can only come after prototype flies.

After 2035 AMCA will be the backbone of IAF. Numbers can only go up.

That is also why we can not screw this up.
This must be top of the line MCA when serial production begins somewhere in 2020s.

Agreed . If Mirage 2000s MIG 29k r going to be replaced by AMCA then we need 400 plus .

How far has ADA progressed in acquiring the critical technologies for AMCA like IRST , Super cruise and thrust vectoring engine ?

I had read about a joint venture between gtre and klimov for thrust vectoring engine tech to be made in India. How has things progressed??

I feel
Iaf will order 300-400 amca in future because by 2045 su-30's would be reaching their retirement age and then they will have no option other than to turn towards amca
Hope we don't delay it

 

[IndianHawk]

I feel
Iaf will order 300-400 amca in future because by 2045 su-30's would be reaching their retirement age and then they will have no option other than to turn towards amca
Hope we don't delay it

By 2040s we shall be able to simultaneously design and produce multiple aircrafts just like Russia and USA of today.

 

[aditya10r]

By 2040s we shall be able to simultaneously design and produce multiple aircrafts just like Russia and USA of today.

But designing a totally new aircraft is pointless when you already have a credible platform

Designing and producing a new jet is a costly affair and stocking the spares is a big problem.

The air force should have no more than 4 different platforms.

Buying a new platform will increase the burden on spare line.

Simply,if we want to replace the su-30 in 2040's
We should go for fgfa+amca combo.

No need to develop a new fighter all together.

 

[IndianHawk]

But designing a totally new aircraft is pointless when you already have a credible platform

Designing and producing a new jet is a costly affair and stocking the spares is a big problem.

The air force should have no more than 4 different platforms.

Buying a new platform will increase the burden on spare line.

Simply,if we want to replace the su-30 in 2040's
We should go for fgfa+amca combo.

No need to develop a new fighter all together.

By 2040 Amca tech will not be state of the art. In military aviation you need a new design every 15 years to keep up with technological challenges.

FGFA + AMCA will form the backbone then just like sukhoi + jags +MIGs do now.

We will need more advanced 6th 7 the gen platforms in atleast design phase by then.

You've got to think in terms of next 40 years.

 

[wuzetian]

By 2040 Amca tech will not be state of the art. In military aviation you need a new design every 15 years to keep up with technological challenges.

FGFA + AMCA will form the backbone then just like sukhoi + jags +MIGs do now.

We will need more advanced 6th 7 the gen platforms in atleast design phase by then.

You've got to think in terms of next 40 years.

Agreed , we can keep on upgrading the AMCA with new Radars, engines and other sensors to keep it relevant for a long time .

But simultaneously out scientists should work on the so called 6th gen technologies like use of Artificial Intelligence to aid the pilot in his task .

Recently an AI was able to accurately predict the movement of enemy pilot and shoot him down easily in simulation.

Chinese are talking of AI enabled missiles now . They will soon achieve that too .

We haven't even started to talk of things like Artificial Intelligence and Machine learning in military. Through machine learning the development cycles of defence projects can be cut down drastically .

SpaceX used machine learning to teach it's rockets to how to do a re-entry and land on a platform in the sea . Though each failure the system realised why it failed and made self corrections to finally attain the given of task of perfect landing .

 

[tharun]

Where we are at the AMCA development..?
Here is S.Korea fifth generation fighter development

 

[wuzetian]

Where we are at the AMCA development..?
Here is S.Korea fifth generation fighter development

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30 character rule sucks

 

[wuzetian]

Where we are at the AMCA development..?
Here is S.Korea fifth generation fighter development

30 character rule ducks

 

[Indx TechStyle]

Where we are at the AMCA development..?

Design frozen and finalized.
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[IndianHawk]

Design frozen and finalized.
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Any update on engine selection.
If design is frozen then we have clear dimensions???

 

[Indx TechStyle]

Any update on engine selection.

I have posted the tender on engine earlier but specs aren't available.

If design is frozen then we have clear dimensions???

Dimensions aren't public but you can see design at least. ₹100 crore already released.

 

[singh100ful]

Get AMCA design checked by Pradyuman das and LSA designer VSTOL JOCKEY the LSA designer. They can do a great value addition. Infact VSTOL JOCKEY said that LSA design is such advance that there is no need of AMCA.

Who is this pradyuman das and vstol jockey?