All big Bhutan players swear by India

[t_co]

Because Bhutan doesn't want to bite the hand that feeds it.

If Bhutan had nothing to gain from India, Bhutan wouldn't have gone on a salvage mission.

Need is not a right, treaty, or law, and does not deserve obedience - merely cooperation.

Because Bhutan is a dear dear friend of India... There is saying that is "a friend in need is friend indeed" ... Inda always been a friend when in need to Bhutan...

Friendship is not a right, treaty, or law, and does not deserve obedience - merely cooperation.

The geopolitical realities dictate that India and Bhutan have good relations amongst them. It is not the question of obey or disobey! Bhutan is required to have good relations with India or hegemonistic and expansionist, territory hungry China will gobble it up...

But why does good relations with India require obedience? Please stick to the original question.

You understand that. China should also have good relations with Bhutan else the Bhutanese Buddhist may provide on division of Buddhists monk soldiers for the liberation of Tibet, a cause close to their heart. Therefore China must accept all territorial claims of Bhutan.

Why would China have issues dealing with a single division? All it takes is a few dozen sorties or cruise missiles, and that division will have served its purpose as cannon fodder for India...

Bhutan is not expected to 'obey' India and that is why there is this 19

Half of the Indian MEA budget goes to Bhutan and that does not include the hydroelectric projects.

Aid does not create a right, treaty, or law, and does not deserve obedience - merely cooperation (at best).

Here is what Tandi Dorji, a member of the Bhutan Parliament has to say:

Tandi Dorji is not Thinley. Let's wait for the words from his mouth, shall we?

 

[pmaitra]

Need is not a right, treaty, or law, and does not deserve obedience - merely cooperation.

Need is not a right, treaty, or law, and does not deserve obedience, and neither did I claim so. It is you who consistently fails to stop gyrating around right, treaty, or law.

 

[Ray]

But why does good relations with India require obedience? Please stick to the original question.

What is obedience that you allude to?

The same type of obedience you force out of Tibetan with bullets, curfews and clampdowns?

Well, India is still to learn much from you since we abhor that type of obedience as you impose in Tibet.

 

[Ray]

Tandi Dorji is not Thinley. Let's wait for the words from his mouth, shall we?

Thinlay is an ex already!

 

[trackwhack]

Why should Bhutan obey India on this point? By what right, treaty, or law?

Why? China and what it did to Tibet is why.

Now stop pretending and be on your way. If half a dozen educated posts are incomprehensible, you're just playing stupid.

 

[Bhadra]

But why does good relations with India require obedience? Please stick to the original question.



Why would China have issues dealing with a single division? All it takes is a few dozen sorties or cruise missiles, and that division will have served its purpose as cannon fodder for India...

Not for India but China...

One guerilla Bhutia division will be too much pain for PLA in Tibet..

 

[Ray]

It is being reported that the Opposition has won.

Bhutan PDP opposition party wins election

The opposition People's Democratic Party (PDP) has won the second-ever parliamentary election in Bhutan.

The PDP beat the ruling Druk Phuensum Tshogpa (DPT) party, which has strong links to the king.

The turnout was high at about 80%, said officials. The kingdom's struggling economy and ties with neighbouring India were key issues in the campaign.

The country has been a democracy since 2008, when the king voluntarily relinquished his absolute power.

The PDP won 32 of the country's 47 parliamentary seats, according to results posted on the official website of Bhutan's Election Commission.

The DPT, which won the last election in 2008, only secured 15 seats in Saturday's poll.

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PDP leader Tshering Tobgay is likely to be named prime minister of the new government, the Associated Press news agency reports.

The PDP has criticised the government for a recent deterioration of ties with India, a key ally.

For decades, Bhutan has relied on its giant southern neighbour for much of its trade and foreign policy.

India's recent massive reduction of oil and gas subsidies for Bhutan has sparked speculation that this may be because of the Himalayan country's improving relations with China.

BBC News - Bhutan PDP opposition party wins election

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A clear indication that indicates that the common Bhutanese are indicating that China can take a running jump!

China can take Thinley (ex PM) to China and declare him as the next Dalai Lama as they have done to foist a fake Panchen Lama!

 

[pmaitra]

It is being reported that the Opposition has won.

Bhutan PDP opposition party wins election

The opposition People's Democratic Party (PDP) has won the second-ever parliamentary election in Bhutan.

The PDP beat the ruling Druk Phuensum Tshogpa (DPT) party, which has strong links to the king.

The turnout was high at about 80%, said officials. The kingdom's struggling economy and ties with neighbouring India were key issues in the campaign.

The country has been a democracy since 2008, when the king voluntarily relinquished his absolute power.

The PDP won 32 of the country's 47 parliamentary seats, according to results posted on the official website of Bhutan's Election Commission.

The DPT, which won the last election in 2008, only secured 15 seats in Saturday's poll.

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PDP leader Tshering Tobgay is likely to be named prime minister of the new government, the Associated Press news agency reports.

The PDP has criticised the government for a recent deterioration of ties with India, a key ally.

For decades, Bhutan has relied on its giant southern neighbour for much of its trade and foreign policy.

India's recent massive reduction of oil and gas subsidies for Bhutan has sparked speculation that this may be because of the Himalayan country's improving relations with China.

BBC News - Bhutan PDP opposition party wins election

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A clear indication that China can take a running jump!

Great news! Now where is the PRC hurr-durr brigade? @t_co, by what right, treaty, or law, have the people of Bhutan given this verdict?

 

[Ray]

t-co and the Chinese Communist camp followers would not understand.

They have no idea of democracy.

They would only understand might of the ensconced coterie, as the CPC in China, as the sole voice of a Nation, superseding the public voice!

They would not understand that Vox Populi is Vox Dei (the voice of the People is the Voice of God), because they are rabid Communists, conditioned, as pavlovian Dog, to be puppets of the CPC.

 

[The Messiah]

lol chicoms were singing a different tune in the other thread a few days ago that bhutan has abandoned India.

 

[arnabmit]

Former PM Thinley out, India to continue 'special' relationship with Bhutan - The Times of India

NEW DELHI: Victory of People's Democratic Party (PDP) in what was only the second democratic elections in tiny, landlocked but strategically important Bhutan has raised hopes of an early settlement to the situation arising out of India's withdrawal of subsidy on its supply of LPG and kerosene.

PM Manmohan Singh wrote to PDP chief Tshering Tobgay that he has already asked his officials to prepare for discussions over India's plan assistance to Bhutan. Singh assured him of "unflinching and steadfast" support from India. Singh said India is and will always be mindful of Bhutan's interests and that India is a privileged partner of Bhutan in its socio-economic progress.

After PDP swept the polls on Saturday, senior government sources said India is looking forward to continuing its "special and unique" relationship with Bhutan. They said the government will not allow the rural poor in Bhutan to suffer and that efforts will be made to expedite terms and conditions for a fresh wave of financial assistance to Thimpu.

While New Delhi has painstakingly tried to convince all that Druk Phuensum Tshogpa (DPT) chief and former prime minister Jigme Thinley's policies were not a dampner for ties - citing in the process his 9 visits to India in the past 5 years - the truth is that India doesn't mind seeing the back of Thinley at all.

New Delhi was alarmed not just by Thinley, who made himself the official ambassador of Bhutan's Gross National Happiness phenomenon, reaching out to Beijing but also the manner in which he established diplomatic ties with many other countries without bothering to take South Block into confidence.

While many in Bhutan have attributed motives to India's decision to cut subsidy on cooking gas and kerosene during the elections, official sources said that for India the successful conduct of second election is indicative of consolidation of democracy in Bhutan. "India has always held that it is happy to work with all in Bhutan. Looks to continue the special and unique relationship," said a government source.

What's interesting is that it was the PDP which seemed to be giving vent to India's concerns when it repeatedly blamed DPT for strained ties with India. The party blamed Thinley's policies even for the subsidy cut by India.

 

[amoy]

Voters' mood is in constant change. If PDP or DPT frustrates their primary concerns the wind of change may blow again like DPT was dumped this time around. All in all the election wasn't a China-vs.-India one, was it?

The kingdom's struggling economy and ties with neighbouring India were key issues in the campaign.

Up to the moment India has used the "stick" cleverly. Now it's time not to disappoint her Bhutanese friends.

Bhutan has raised hopes of an early settlement to the situation arising out of India's withdrawal of subsidy on its supply of LPG and kerosene.

More carrots will surely solidify PDP's victory, and ward off China's coveting as it may seem too hefty an offer to match for China, disproportionate to Bhutan's "importance".

 

[Bhadra]

@amoy

Bhutan is India and Tibet's neighbor not Chinese neighbor

 

[dhananjay1]

Of course they would continue to maintain pro-India stance. A pro-China position would result in wealthy families losing money to chinese, a handful of malls selling chinese products and a railroad to Beijing that no Bhutanese wants to use.

 

[nimo_cn]

Of course they would continue to maintain pro-India stance. A pro-China position would result in wealthy families losing money to chinese, a handful of malls selling chinese products and a railroad to Beijing that no Bhutanese wants to use.

Not really. Never put all of your eggs in one basket, if India became the only option of Bhutan, it means that Bhutan has no option, which is no good for Bhutan.

Taking a pro-India stance doesnt mean Bhutan has to knock China out of door. On the contrary, inviting China to the game will keep a hegemonic India in check and save Bhutan from being another Sikkim.

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[t_co]

@amoy

Bhutan is India and Tibet's neighbor not Chinese neighbor

By your logic, I could argue that Bhutan is China and Assam's neighbor, not India's neighbor.

 

[bose]

Not really. Never put all of your eggs in one basket, if India became the only option of Bhutan, it means that Bhutan has no option, which is no good for Bhutan.

Taking a pro-India stance doesnt mean Bhutan has to knock China out of door. On the contrary, inviting China to the game will keep a hegemonic India in check and save Bhutan from being another Sikkim.

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India will do whatever to save Bhutan from becoming another occupied TIBET...

 

[Bhadra]

Bhutan is a peaceful country and let us allow it to remain so...

These Chinese, wherever they go, whatever they do and what ever they shadow, create conflicts and wars...

They are still a warring peasantry even in 21st century...

 

[t_co]

Bhutan is a peaceful country and let us allow it to remain so...

These Chinese, wherever they go, whatever they do and what ever they shadow, create conflicts and wars...

They are still a warring peasantry even in 21st century...

Please prove your assertion that wherever the Chinese go, whatever the Chinese do, and whatever the Chinese shadow creates conflicts and wars.

 

[nimo_cn]

India will do whatever to save Bhutan from becoming another occupied TIBET...

By whatever, do you mean making Bhutan another Sikkim?

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