AIRBUS PLANS GLOBAL HUB IN INDIA FOR PANTHER COPTERS

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  1. WolfPack86

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    Europe’s Airbus Group which is competing for aircraft orders from India’s navy and air force Monday said it will build local assembly lines if these projects come through.
    The final assembly lines to make Panther helicopters for the Navy and C295 transport aircraft for the Indian Air Force will be built at a cost of over Rs.5,000 crore and will create over 10,000 high skilled jobs, the aerospace and defence firm said in New Delhi.
    “We are proposing to establish a final assembly line in India for the AS565 MBe Panther helicopters, if we get the Naval Utility Helicopters contract,” said Pierre de Bausset, president and managing director, Airbus Group India. “We will have India as the global hub for Panthers,” he added.
    He said along with the final assembly line, Airbus will set up tier I, II and III supply chain infrastructure in India for these helicopters.
    Airbus Helicopters is in the process to form a joint venture company with Mahindra Defence Systems Ltd. This company hopes to become the private strategic partner on helicopter platforms.
    On 24 January, the defence production arm of the Mahindra Group, Mahindra Defence and Airbus Helicopters had signed a so-called statement of intent to produce military helicopters in India.
    The companies plan to set up a final assembly line in India, develop tier-1 and tier-2 suppliers and make extensive transfer of technology, to achieve 50% indigenous content.
    In July, Mahindra Defence and Airbus Helicopters had signed an in-principle agreement to set up a joint venture to manufacture helicopters in India, seeking to tap a military hardware market estimated to grow to $41 billion in seven years.
    Apart from the Naval Utility Helicopters, the joint company will also target the Reconnaissance & Surveillance Helicopters (RSH) requirement of over 200 units with the H125M Fennec and the Naval Multi-Role Helicopters (NMRH) requirement of more than 120 units with the H225M (previously marketed as EC725).
    The company also plans to establish a final assembly line in India for the C295 military transport aircraft in partnership with Tata Group companies.
    The C295 is being proposed as a replacement for the Indian Air Force’s ageing Avro fleet.
    The company said the selection process is on track and field evaluation trials are expected in the near future.
    The Make In India initiative launched by Prime Minister Narendra Modi on 25 September 2014 aims to boost domestic manufacturing and create jobs. Twenty-five sectors were identified for Make In India, from automobiles to aviation to pharmaceuticals to tourism and wellness.
    Stressing that the Group is already making in India through its over 45 suppliers, de Bausset said, “What we buy in India, we make in India.”
    Referring to the Indian government rules restricting foreign ownership in the Indian defence sector to 49%, de Bausset said: “The issue is not the limit per se. The business case for high-tech transfer to India becomes more compelling if foreign OEMs (original equipment manufacturers) are allowed to have adequate equity and management control in the joint venture in line with the risks they are taking and the contributions they are providing.”
    In a first for any foreign aerospace and defence OEM in India, Airbus Group exceeded the $500 million annual procurement mark from India in 2015, Mint reported on 12 March.
    Airbus Group has now set its sight on exceeding $2 billion in cumulative procurement, covering both civil and defence, in the five years up to 2020, Mint reported citing de Bausset.
     
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    good news......many more in pipeline.
     
  5. harsh

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    This helicopter in same class with dhruv ( I must say inferior in specification) then how this can be selected for navy utility helicopter.
     
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    The Dhruv has some shortcomings which are preventing it from taking on more specialized roles like ASW and SAR reconnaissance. The chopper has little space for mounting additional equipment, and I believe I read a while ago that the engines are not powerful enough to handle all the extra load effectively. I'm not sure about that bit though.

    Other problems are the fact that till date HAL has failed to develop a powered automatic rotor-folding mechanism for the Naval Dhruv's main rotor, which still needs to be manually folded. Other such niggling criteria are blocking it.
     
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    This helicopter has 763 kw engine dhruv has 1000 kw engine

    Dhruv has more useful load capacity 2600 kg then this hali 2300 kg

    Hal develops new automatic rotor folding mechanism shows in luh.

    What shortcomings are talking about???
     
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    garg_bharat Senior Member Senior Member

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    Brochures are beautiful. People read foreign brochures, and believe everything written there. They push drdo to achieve what is written in the brochure. Of course drdo falls short. Then they push mod to import. Mod initiates a tender. When our people finally evaluate the product, they realize the brochure was only partially correct. In this loop several years are wasted.

    Western suppliers are messing up with Indian mind. They know very well Indian fascination of western products. So they use it to delay our growth. Confusion and deception are oldest tricks in fighting war.
     
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    garg_bharat Senior Member Senior Member

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    How did we achieve such great capability in software? Indian companies made plenty of mistakes throughout. Many projects failed. But Indians did not run away and gave their 110 percent to it.

    The defence people are always running away. When they develop the courage to face the situation, things will start improving.
     
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    The ALH is too heavy for the IN's NLUH reqirement, they are looking for a helo about 1 ton lighter to operate from their smallest hanger equipped vessels (OPVs).
     
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    Are you sure it is even a real requirement??
    Why OPV cannot handle ALH?? Can you give me a technical reason??
     
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    Pather is only 200 kg lighter without load and you can operate dhruv with less load on those hangers.
    Panther also carry less usefull load.

    Well I dont know what is reasoning behind 200 kg shit.
    But hal dhruv should make its way in navy. Its a good hali even better then most of foreign maal.
     
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    here the question is whether can a 200 kg lighter chopper can be made our of ALH?

    User should convey their requirements to DRDO very clearly so that they can work on it and curve out a customized version out of ALH.
     
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    I don't think weight is the real reason. Folding rotor blades was one, as helicopter is parked in limited space.
    Weapons availability and weapons integration could be other reasons, for an armed helicopter.
     
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    How much extra money needed to build OPVs which can support Dhruv instead of these, well I don't think these OPVs are too small...
    Doesn't Kamov-226 meat NLUH requirements?
     

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