Ahamadis- Are they muslims?

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  1. GPM

    GPM Tihar Jail Banned

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    Are Ahemadis considered as muslims in Indian law? What is their legal status? A wakf board has decided that they are not muslims. Can decisions of wakf boards be treated as law?

    Any information?
     
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    Yusuf GUARDIAN Administrator

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    No they are Muslims according to law.
     
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    amoy Senior Member Senior Member

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    Is there a law regulating / defining who a Muslim is in a modern state like India? :confused:
     
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    arnabmit Homo Communis Indus Senior Member

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    India has a significant Ahmadiyya population. Most of them live in Kerala, Rajasthan, Orissa, Haryana, Bihar, Delhi, Uttar Pradesh, and a few in Punjab in the area of Qadian.

    Ahmadis are held to be Muslims by law in India. Their legal status as Muslims is supported by a landmark ruling by the Kerala High Court on 8 December 1970 in the case of Shihabuddin Imbichi Koya Thangal vs K.P. Ahammed Koya, citation A.I.R. 1971 Ker 206. In this case, the court ruled that Ahmadis are Muslims and that they cannot be declared apostates by other Muslim sects because they hold true to the two fundamental beliefs of Islam: that there is no god but Allah and that Muhammad was a servant and messenger of God.

    There are hence no legal restrictions on the religious activities of Ahmadis in India and Ahmadis are free to practice their religion and call themselves Muslims. However, there is some discrimination against Ahmadis in India from fellow Muslims of other sects. Specifically, the Islamic University of India and Darul Uloom Deoband have declared Ahmadis to be non-Muslims. Ahmadis are also not permitted by Muslim leaders of the other sects to sit on the All India Muslim Personal Law Board, an independent body of Islamic religious leaders that the Indian government recognises as representatives of Indian Muslims.

    More recently, the Andhra Pradesh Wakf Board took a series of unprecedented decisions and has asked the Qazis in the state not to perform Nikah for those belonging to Ahmadiyya community.
     
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    Yusuf GUARDIAN Administrator

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    There is a definition of religion and that's it.
     
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    Ray The Chairman Defence Professionals Moderator

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    There is no law that defines anyone of his religion.

    The citizen define their religious persuations on their own.

    You could check this out if you are keen to know about Ahmediyyas

    http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Ahmadiyya
     
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    Bhadra Defence Professionals Defence Professionals Senior Member

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    A good backgrounders on Ahmadiyas:

     
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  9. afako

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    Ahmadiyyas are Munafiqs who ought to be eradicated as per Islam.
     
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    They are declared Muslims and are safe and healthy in a Kafir Hindu Majority country. Ohh the irony!!
     
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    And who decide that for Islam?
     
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    The masses :notsure:
     
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    Finality of Prophethood of Muhammad is the main principle and Ahmeddis are not agreed with that.
    They are peaceful and they should be called Ahmeddis.
    Similarly a person who follows Jesus as God and consider himself as Muslim, can he be the muslim?
     
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  14. dhananjay1

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    The question is why they want to be counted as Muslims? Most of the Muslims don't consider them as Muslims and hate them like poison.
     
  15. afako

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    Words of Allah stated in Quran and Mohammads Doings recorded in Hadeeths.
     
  16. afako

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    Isn't it your Duty as Slave of Allah to bring them to Allah's Path and correct them?
     
  17. just4nikhilesh

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    comman problen with all muslim they don't like each other as they think they are only true allah believer and kuran say that muslim divided in to 73 part like sia sunny ahmadia bohra irani etc
     
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    Problem with peace loving religion is they are governed by strict law ,one god concept which place god as superior and other people who doest accept are not considered as muslims.Sunni,shia etc and in india they say lubbai ,mapillai etc which are internal division but not known to us,There are n number of divisions inside muslims and sure ahmedians are also muslims
     
  19. A chauhan

    A chauhan "अहिंसा परमो धर्मः धर्म हिंसा तथैव च: l" Senior Member

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    If Prophet Mohamad was final then who was Guru Nanak ? apparently Ahamadis are better in this approach at least, however Ahamdis too have a strange concept in this regard they consider Guru Nanak a Sufi Muslim. ( while in true sense neither they could reject the authority and works of Guru Nanak nor they were allowed to declare him a prophet, as Muhammad was final, hence they started to claim him a Muslim ) While it's awkward to accept that God doesn't want to deliver further messages to humanity as if he has abandoned humans or is busy in other works. And if anyone does similar non-deniable works like Guru Nanak and delivers the further messages of the God, they start to claim him a Muslim as they are bound to not call him a prophet :lol:
     
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    Ahamdis technically aren't Muslims if we go strictly by the Quran (finality of Muhammad ).

    Also, Ahmadiyya ain't benign, it's a hardcore evangelist sect.
     
  21. Bhadra

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    Oh come on you all heretics..
    Amongst Muslims, they are the most educated, forward looking and progressive community...
    That is why most of the slum dweller Muslims called Shia and Sunnies dislike them..

    You all are ranting like satans..
     
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