Agustawestland VVIP chopper deal cancelled

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  1. Free Karma

    Free Karma Senior Member Senior Member

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    MoD finally cracks whip, scraps Agustawestland VVIP chopper deal

    MoD finally cracks whip, scraps Agustawestland VVIP chopper deal - Indian Express
     
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    What a waste of resources and reputation. A large chunk of money for bribes is already debited from Tax payer's account.

    The desire/acquisition of these machines was brought in motion by Atal Bihari Vajpayee government.
     
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    what about the Completed helicopters and How much we paid for that
     
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    Armand2REP CHINI EXPERT Veteran Member

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    It was AW that paid bribes so that is money you didn't spend. The rest can be returned in legal action which 45% of the contract had been paid.
     
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    Sweet Closure

    I was a part of this debate on Timesnow newshour ( Arnab was the anchor)
    We were four army officers, one air force officer & Maroof Raza as the defence expert , sometime in March 2013.

    I was outnumbered 4 :1 by the Ex lot, all supporting the Govt / ACM Tyagi , hectoring that the GSQR are cast in stone & the requirements once finalized can not be tweaked. My view was & even today is, that we have men of straw in higher positions who will suck up to the Govt of the day for any sop/ 13 pcs of gold, The deal was exorbitant by Indian standards and bribes were paid and the purchase of AW heptr's should be scrapped.
     
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    bad news for netas ,they have to travel in ageing Mi-8,17 fleet.:lol::lol:
     
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    will a new tender be issued now ? anyone ?
     
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    Good:rolleyes:
    ageing ( fuddy duddy ) netas = ageing Mi-8 / 17 fleet:p
    in any case most of them are dispensible:lol:
     
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    I would like to see the Video of the Debate ..Pls post

    and Are you once in the Military
     
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    I am thinking that cancelling a deal is rather more beneficial for politicians and bureaucrats.

    Going by many cancelled deals I am finding it as a very clever booming business which not only avoids further scrutiny in media, by courts and people but it wraps up all the mess and wrong doing in one go with no persuasion whatsoever to bring back the wealth lost in bribes and favors.
     
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    VVIP chopper scam: India to recover €250 million - The Times of India

    Augusta has said that they have done nothing wrong.

    Also Augusta will not be blacklisted by govt. India Opts Not to Blacklist AgustaWestland | Defense News | defensenews.com

    I read somewhere that blacklisting companies is affecting us badly as it keeps narrowing the companies from where we can buy stuff from, since these kickbacks and so forth are a part of nearly every company that deals in the sector
     
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    ‘Target’ closest advisers of Sonia Gandhi for VVIP chopper deal, key middleman told AgustaWestland | The Indian Express

    New Delhi | February 01, 2014 03:06

    In a note that Italian prosecutors have produced in court to allege the vital role played by middleman Christian Michel in fixing the VVIP chopper deal, the British ‘consultant’ has told top AgustaWestland officials to ‘target’ the closest advisers for UPA chairperson Sonia Gandhi for the contract.

    The March 2008 note, which has been sent by the elusive Christian Michel to Peter Hulett, the then Head of Region, Govt Sales at the AgustaWestland India office, is one of the many documents that Italian investigators seized from the office of Switzerland based middleman Guido Haschke who is currently facing trial in the case of alleged 51 million euro kickbacks generated in the Indian VVIP chopper deal.
     
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    Here is an online version of the same article:

    Elicotteri Augusta, mazzette italiane a politici indiani. Sullo sfondo il caso marò - Il Fatto Quotidiano

    This paper seems to link the italian marines cae to the chopper deal, and also throw a random bunch of allegations (based of their perceptions of who takes bribes), and their list contains basically the whole senior establishment of the govt. But the thing is Anyone could make a list to "target" people. Whether the bribe was offered and accepted needs to be proven.
     
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    Its written CVC and Auditor General


    Wtf---these 2 institutions also gone!!!!!!!!
     
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    Defence Minister says no proof of Sonia Gandhi link in AgustaWestland chopper deal | NDTV.com

    Amid angry shouts alleging corruption within the government, Defence Minister AK Antony today told Parliament there was no proof of Congress president Sonia Gandhi's alleged link to the VVIP chopper scam, which involves the now-cancelled deal to buy 12 luxury helicopters from defence manufacturer AgustaWestland.

    A document that surfaced days ago shows that a middleman central to the deal asked his contact in India to target the aides of Sonia Gandhi and the Prime Minister to bag the contract.

    "The authencity of these documents is not proved and the case still in progress in an Italian court," said the Defence Minister. He also said another middleman, Guido Haschke, had said t hat the reference to "family" in one of the seized documents was to the family of former air chief SP Tyagi.

    The CBI has alleged that the forner chief was among those who accepted bribes from Finmeccanica which used a maze of companies in counties like Mauritius to route payments to officers.

    The opposition says the scandal proves that the government has been operating in a continuum of indefatigable corruption.

    The faxed and unsigned note that allegedly mentions Mrs Gandhi was produced in an Italian court recently where the Italian boss of AgustaWestland's parent company Finmeccanica was arrested last February over the case.

    Christen Michel was one of the middlemen for the deal, prosecutors in Italy have alleged. Mr Michel was arrested in October. He allegedly faxed a contact at AgustaWestland's Delhi office in March, 2008, asking for "Sonia Gandhi and her closest advisors" to be approached.

    India agreed in 2010 to spend 3700 crores to acquire the Agusta helicopters that would be used by the President, PM and other top politicians.

    But since the allegations of kickbacks erupted in Italy, it has cancelled the contract and the CBI has launched its own investigation into the swindle.
     
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    No decision on debarring AgustaWestland: Antony
    New Delhi, Feb 5, 2014, IANS:
    The central government has not taken a decision to debar AgustaWestland, following the cancellation of a contract with it for supply of 12 VVIP helicopters, Defence Minister A.K. Antony said Wednesday.The central government has not taken a decision to debar AgustaWestland, following the cancellation of a contract with it for supply of 12 VVIP helicopters, Defence Minister A.K. Antony said Wednesday. PTI File Photo

    The central government has not taken a decision to debar AgustaWestland, following the cancellation of a contract with it for supply of 12 VVIP helicopters, Defence Minister A.K. Antony said Wednesday.

    Antony said in a written reply in the Rajya Sabha that the government was taking steps to get stay obtained by the company in a tribunal in Milan vacated for encashment of advance bank guarantees.

    Antony said the contract for supply of 12 VVIP/VIP helicopters signed with AgustaWestland International Limited (AWIL) Feb 8, 2010 was terminated by the government Jan 1 this year for breach of provisions of the pre-contract integrity pact and breach of the terms of the contract by the company.

    He said subsequent to the termination of the contract, two bank guarantees amounting to about Rs.240 crore have been encashed. He said advance bank guarantees were provided by the seller on Deutsche Bank, Milan and demand has been made for their encashment.

    "However, the seller has obtained an interim stay from the Ordinary Tribunal of Milan, Italy against this. Steps are underway to get the stay vacated," Antony said.On a query about blacklisting of AgustaWestland, Antony said: "No decision has been taken till date to debar the said company."

    AgustaWestland is a British subsidiary of Italian firm Finmeccanica. In another statement in the Rajya Sabha on the VVIP chopper deal, Antony Wednesday said the authenticity of "notes" pointing fingers at Indian leaders was "not proved". The minister made the statement after reports said middlemen in the AgustaWestland deal were trying to target certain Indian leaders.

    The minister said the government has received "one unsigned handwritten paper".He said the transcript of the hearing of arrested middleman Guido Haschke has also been received.

    "There is another unsigned document purported to be written by Mr. Christian (Michel) to the attention of one Mr. Peter Hulet for high commissioner to target certain Indian leaders," Antony said.

    "The authenticity of these documents is not proved. The case is presently in progress in the Italian court," he said. According to reports, the note was written by Michel to an AgustaWestland official in India to ask a "High Commissioner" to target Congress chief Sonia Gandhi and her close advisers Ahmed Patel, Pranab Mukherjee and Veerappa Moily.

    Antony said that after the arrest of senior officials of Finmeccanica in Italy, the Central Bureau of Investigation registered a preliminary inquiry in February 2013 which has now been converted into a regular case "against former Air Chief Marshal S.P. Tyagi and 18 other people and companies. CBI has issued Letters Rogatory for witnesses and evidence".

    He said representatives of the defence ministry, CBI and the external affairs ministry have been attending hearings in Italy's Court of Busto Arsizio in Milan in the case going on there.

    The issue was raised in the upper house by BJP leader Ravishankar Prasad, who said later that the minister's reply "concealed more than it revealed". "Why in't there any categorical denial? Michel's letter clearly names Sonia Gandhi. He said Sonia Gandhi was the driving force," Prasad said.
     
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    Article : Shri Arun Jaitley on "Raksha Mantri's statement in Rajya Sabha on the Agusta Westland"
    Saturday, 08 February 2014

    Accessibility

    Raksha Mantri's statement in Rajya Sabha on the Agusta Westland

    - Arun Jaitley
    Leader of Opposition (Rajya Sabha)

    On February 5, 2014, the Raksha Mantri Shri A.K. Antony made a suo moto statement in the Rajya Sabha. His statement is in relation to the disclosures in the media, which are based on documents supplied by the prosecutors in the competent Italian courts. The Raksha Mantri said that a crucial document seized from Mr. Guido Haschke contains two important statements. The word “FAM” refers to the ‘Family’, which he believes, is the Tyagi family. He cannot make out who the words “AP” refers to. He further states that there is another document by Mr. Christian Michel which targets certain Indian leaders.

    Even though clarifications have to be sought from the Minister, I doubt it will be possible to seek clarifications on account of the disturbances in the House. Let me put across my doubts, which I would have wanted the Raksha Mantri to clarify.

    The document dated March 15, 2008 recovered from the Italian middleman gives the understanding of the Italian middleman about India. It mentions “as Mrs. Gandhi is the driving force behind the VIP, she will not fly any more in MI-8”. This document gives a list of persons including various Ministers and party functionaries who are close to Mrs. Gandhi.

    The account sheet separately seized, uses under the title ‘Political’ which refers to “AP”. The next entry is “FAM”, which now is admitted to mean Family.

    Admittedly, in the deal kickbacks have been paid and the Indian system has been subverted. The contract has, therefore, been cancelled. I have already said that these note sheets remind us of the 1987 seizures in Sweden where the entry in Martin Ardbo’s diary referred to the Word ‘Q’. It eventually became clear as to who ‘Q’ was. Is it rocket science, in the political arena, to decipher the abbreviation mentioned in the note sheet? Is it not unusual for middleman to be referred to as ‘Family’?

    When words in their natural course are understood to have a particular meaning, why should the word ‘Family’ be given a meaning other than how it is understood in India?
     
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    Defence ministry initiates blacklisting process against AgustaWestland - The Times of India

    NEW DELHI: The defence ministry has kicked off the process for blacklisting AgustaWestland, the UK-based subsidiary of Italian conglomerate Finmeccanica, after cancelling its contract for 12 VVIP helicopters on January 1.

    "The (blacklisting) proposal is now being vetted by the ministry's legal team. We will then seek the opinion of both the law ministry and the CBI before taking the formal step," a top official told TOI.

    The blacklisting of AgustWestland, however, will take several weeks more since the ministry will wait for the CBI report on the evidence regarding the alleged payment of kickbacks in the 556 million euros deal for the 12 AW-101 helicopters inked with AgustaWestland in February 2010. As per Italian investigators, 51 million euros were paid as kickbacks to swing the deal.

    The ministry is also trying to encash the bank guarantees provided by AgustaWestland in the deal, which total up to around 270 million euros and is roughly equivalent to the amount already paid to the company after the delivery of the first three helicopters.

    Defence minister A K Antony has detailed a specific standard operating procedure (SOP) for dealing with the VVIP helicopter scandal, which includes external legal opinion at every stage from the law ministry.

    With AgustaWestland putting up a stiff fight at every stage, the ministry is doubly cautious to ensure that its procedures and documentation are water-tight. "There is no option but to proceed with the blacklisting of AgustaWestland because that is what law mandates," said the official.

    If the company is indeed blacklisted, it will be denied access to the Indian market for at least a decade. AgustaWestland would then join 15 other defence firms that are on the "de-barred" list of the defence ministry. In orders issued in 2012 and 2013, the ministry debarred these 15 companies - including Singapore Technologies Kinetics, Israel Military Industries, Rheinmetall Air Defence (Zurich), BVT Poland and Corporation Defence Russia -- from doing business for the next 10 years.

    The blacklisting, of course, would have severe adverse effect on the maintenance of AgustaWestland supplied helicopters that are already in service in the Indian armed forces.

    Though the final decision will be taken after legal advice, it seems that just AgustaWestland -- which had inked the integrity pact and contract with the defence ministry -- and not the entire Finmeccanica group will face the blacklisting process.

    Different Finmeccanica companies are involved in several ongoing defence projects in India, with one estimate holding that the conglomerate is in contention for Indian military contracts worth over $6 billion, ranging from helicopters and aircraft to missiles and guns.

    Incidentally, the ministry has already put on hold its own recent clearance to the long-pending Rs 1,800 crore naval project to buy 98 'Black Shark' heavy-weight torpedoes, manufactured by another Finmeccanica subsidiary Whitehead Alenia Sistemi Subacquel (WASS), for the Scorpene submarines, as reported earlier by TOI.
     
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    India’s Solicitor General
    Advises Against Blacklisting
    AgustaWestland


    India’s decision to blacklist AgustaWestland is set to be delayed as the country’s Solicitor General Mohan Parasaran advised against any immediate steps. "The Law officer has asked us to wait before going ahead with the blacklisting of the Anglo-Italian firm. We have now referred the issue to CBI, which is carrying out legal proceedings against the firm in India," A Defence Ministry source was quoted as saying by PTI. The Indian MoD cancelled VVIP helicopter contract, when allegations of bribery surfaced, after agreeing to arbitration proceedings.
    The arbitration process is yet to start between the two sides as they have not agreed upon the third member of the arbitration panel in which AgustaWestland has nominated former Supreme Court judge Justice (retd) BN Srikrishna and the Defence Ministry has nominated former Justice Jeevan Reddy, according to PTI. Meanwhile, AgustaWestland has maintained it did not offer kickbacks to Indian officials to help win the contract.

    India’s Solicitor General Advises Against Blacklisting AgustaWestland
     

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