Agreement likely: India may move troops to peacetime locations

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  1. ejazr

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    Agreement likely: India may move troops to peacetime locations – The Express Tribune

    ISLAMABAD:

    The Indian government is likely to pull back troops from wartime positions, deployed at the working boundary with Pakistan after the 2008 Mumbai terrorist attacks.

    Troop withdrawal to peacetime positions is among the first substantial overtures since India and Pakistan resumed peace talks following the terror strike in 2008 that had almost triggered a full-scale war.

    Military and diplomatic officials told The Express Tribune on Sunday that the two nuclear-armed nations had reached an understanding on this during last month’s visit to New Delhi by President Asif Ali Zardari.

    A formal announcement in this regard, they added, was likely when the Indian premier visits Islamabad possibly during the later half of this year. “It is going to happen in September or October,” one of them remarked.

    Political figures privy to the president’s daylong visit to India on April 8 said the major development was a result of backdoor channels, which had been active between the two countries for the past couple of years.

    Officials said that in July 2008, the Indian government had immediately mobilized troops to take wartime positions at the working boundary with Pakistan immediately after terrorists launched commando-style attacks in the heart of Indian commercial capital of Mumbai. The term working boundary relates to disputed border particularly
    in Kashmir.

    New Delhi blamed the attacks on Lashkar-e-Toiba (LeT), a group based in Pakistan. More than 160 people, including foreigners, were killed in the strikes at multiple locations across the port city.

    According to experts, in wartime scenario, regular army starts manning border instead of special-forces meant for protecting boundaries. India has Border Security Forces and Pakistan has rangers for this purpose.

    Officials said Pakistan responded to Indian move in 2008 by sending troops to concentration areas—forward basis—along with the working boundary at Sialkot and some other locations.

    A senior military official said that though troops were mobilised by India, there wasn’t any serious tension at the border like in 2002 after an attack on Indian parliament also blamed on a group based in Pakistan.

    “There has never been an alert. Neither on our side nor on the other,” said the military official.

    Defence experts argue the move will provide Pakistan a space to deploy more troops in the north of the country where the military is busy fighting al Qaeda and homegrown Taliban.

    The United States and other western nations fighting an insurgency in Afghanistan want Pakistan to curb terrorists on its soil.

    Siachen, Sir Creek disputes

    Besides pulling back troops, Manmohan Singh visit might carry other ‘pleasant’ surprises for Pakistan and India.

    Officials said ‘major announcements’ were also expected on Siachen—the disputed glacier in the Himalayas known as world’s highest battlefield—and Sir Creek — an un-demarcated stretch of coastline dotted with small islands.

    They said there was a possibly that both sides might agree on troop withdrawal from the killing mountainous range where an avalanche buried more that 130 soldiers and civilians last month.

    Pakistani civilian and military leaders including Chief of the Army Staff General Ashfaq Pervez Kayani have more than once said both countries should withdraw troops from the border to divert resources to public welfare.
     
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    Hoping that pakis BSing as usual.
     
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    utubekhiladi The Preacher Elite Member

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    no such news from our side..
     
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    roma NRI in Europe Senior Member

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    is it a kind of self -hypnotism ?
     
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    Wrong month quoted for 26/11 - July 2008
     
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    Why would we even think of moving back, the present position itself is a peace-time position as it helps maintain peace by checking insurgency.
     
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    There is no point in keeping troops in forward areas when it doesnt serve any purpose.Indian leadership dont have answer to asymmetric war of pakistan under nuke shadow.twice it has been proved in last decade.Non-state actors have succedded in bringing india on its knees.only thing india can do is keep talking and offering concessions in hope it dont receive slaps as hard as 26/11 in future."Spare the rod spoil the child" proverb perfectly fits into indo-pak context ,in which Pakistan has made india behave by using rod of asymmetric warfare.
     
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    i see time hasn't made you change your trolling ways.
     
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    Where is there peace to withdraw troops. Its pakis who are not able to sustain anything. They can't even supply troops to their positions near Siachen.

    If this news is confirmed, it's a grave mistake on India's part. I have been recommending increasing troops spray we can increase the costs on Pakistan. This is BS if true.
     
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    Time will tell who will win and who will loose. Pak has asymmetric warfare and India has cold start which is giving nightmares to Pakistan. Bring on ye nukes. We know it's a bluff. Just someone in India has to call it.
     
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    Whats there to gauge.Pak has for decades used asymmetric warfare on india very successfully and still using it.Regarding cold start we will talk when india put it to use otherwise it will remain in imagination and some exercises.
     
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    Are they going to give us Hafiz Saeed in return? Why this favour? If I were MMS i would have doubled the number of troops. Scare the sh!t out of them
     
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    Nope, till the time the news get a confirmed from other sources, pakis have habit of BSing
     
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    Even if they give Hafiz Sayeed it wouldn't be a good bargain.
     
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    Bogus.

    MMS will get a kick in the pants if he does that.

    Let him get a iron clad agreement and international agreement that Pakistan or China will not come in, then only will one agree!

    Or else, MMS may get an unpleasant surprise!
     
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    Can you trust those two countries on anything? We need to be deployed on a permanent basis to fight a war with them. It has two benefits.

    1) bleeds the Pakis of the bottom dollar they get in aid
    2) we will be ready for any misadventure.

    Who the fvck decides on such stupid moves? Babus or politicians? Either ways they need to smell coffee.
     
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    @Yusuf:
    One question : Why isn't that Paki banned despite threatening of terrorist attack on India ?

    And lol at Paki thinking his country is winning when for god sake Bangladesh has humiliated Pakistan by not touring that sh!t land . :laugh::laugh: I think there is no end to delusion in Paki madarssah,:rofl::rofl:
     
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    Btw Paki how was World cup last year ? Hope lots of country visited your country .:laugh::laugh:
     
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