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Total flight period of the missile is 20 mins. for 3500 km. i.e. Mach(3500*1000/20*60*340.29)=8.57 .

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DRDO plans early entry of Agni-4 into arsenal

Ajai Shukla / New Delhi November 17, 2011

A day after the successful launch of the Defence R&D Organisation's all-new Agni-4 ballistic missile, a triumphant DRDO chief proclaimed it as good as America's Pershing-II missiles; and declared that India's missile arsenal could no longer be constrained by technology denial sanctions

Highlighting the capability of the Agni-4, V K Saraswat, DRDO head, told the media here that this 20-tonne missile could deliver a one-tonne warhead to a distance of 3,500 km, significantly further than the 3,000 kilometres range of the much heavier, 48-tonne Agni-3 missile. Saraswat listed the multiple technological breakthroughs that had permitted this feat — composite rocket motors; a state-of-the-art navigation system and control systems that were both lighter and better.

Asked by Business Standard whether the Agni-4 was qualitatively in the class of Pakistan's ballistic missiles (the Shaheen and the Ghauri), Saraswat responded, "Agni-4 compares with what is available (globally) in its class of missiles like the Pershing (US missile)"¦ I am talking in terms of technology, not in terms of range, as Pershing missiles have a higher range"¦ they meet global standards."

Saraswat may have mixed his facts, since Pershing II, the US ballistic missile he likened the Agni-4 to, is a decommissioned 1980s missile with a range of just 1,800 kilometres. But his claim, as evident from his other remarks, was that the Agni-4 met global benchmarks.

Saraswat also explained that the Agni-4 represented the final defeat of the technology denial regime that the West imposed on India from 1974 onwards. India, he said, could no longer be blocked from developing a world-class nuclear deterrent.

"No technology control regimes can stop us from making missiles in this class. We need to thank the technology sanctions for enforcing upon us a degree of self-reliance where we no longer need imports," said Saraswat.

The DRDO chief praised a range of Indian entities for defeating western sanctions. Defence PSU, MIDHANI developed "maraging steel" for missile components; Kerala Minerals and Metals Ltd (KMML) produces 500 tonnes per year of badly needed titanium; the blockage on Indian imports of composite carbon fibre — essential for the Agni's heat-resistant nose cone — was defeated. "We have made our own carbon fibre which is better than anything that is available from those foreign countries", said Saraswat.

The DRDO plans to quickly bring the Agni-4 into military service. "We hope to complete the test phase (two launches) in 2012; the user phase (two launches) in 2013; and in 2014 we would offer it for service. We have dramatically shortened the time from development to service," said the DRDO's missile controller, Avinash Chander.

Indian nuclear specialists worry that, although advanced simulation capabilities have reduced the requirement of actual test launches, there is a haste to introduce inadequately tested missiles into the Indian arsenal.

"In earlier times, missiles like the Pershing were fired dozens of times before being brought into service. Even on Wednesday, at least three to five launches are needed to verify that Agni-4's performance can be replicated in various conditions. Only then should user trials commence," says deterrence expert, Brigadier (retired) V K Nair.

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Agni-IV production by 2014


New Delhi, Nov 16 (IANS) India, which successfully tested the new generation Agni-IV medium-range ballistic missile Tuesday, will carry out further tests of the weapon system till 2013 to ensure it is ready for production by 2014, defence scientists said here Wednesday.

They also pointed out that Agni-IV was the first ever missle test by India that soared over 3,000-km range and 'beyond the equator' to the southern hemisphere.

Avinash Chander of the Defence Research and Development Organisation (DRDO) told reporters that the test phase for the Agni-IV missile will be completed in 2012 with repeatable tests and user-trials in 2013 before it goes for production.

He said this will be the shortest time between development and production stages of the missile.

Asked if Agni-IV will leave the 2,000-km-range Agni-II and 3,000-km-range Agni-III redundant, DRDO Director General V.K. Saraswat said each of these missiles had their own unique use for the armed forces and hence would co-exist as operational weapon systems of the armed forces.

Avinash Chander said Agni-II would be for the Western sector. Sarawat noted that India's security needs of these ballistic missiles were limited and hence deployment will be restricted to certain sectors for each of the Agni-series missiles.

Saraswat also pointed out that there was a difference between Agni-III and Agni-IV. The latter was a much smaller in size but had higher accuracy. Agni-IV had a 'pencil-like' look and accelerated much more than Agni-III.


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they say that few of the components of agni 4 are similar to agni 2 and 3 so they are scaling up the manufacturing of pieces of agni2 and 3 so that demand for agni 4 can be met. but there are some components of agni 4 which are different from agni2 and 3 but wil be used/employed in agni 5 so agni 4 will have components of agni 2 3 and 5.
agni 4 a road mobile will give more teeth to SFC than agni 1 2 and 3 which are rail mobile.
 

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well saraswat also said that now the most modern missile of india the agni 4 is in class of shaheen and ghauri- pakistani missiles means he was bluffing earlier that indian missiles are qualitatively better than pakistani and chinese missile. we have now reached where pakistanis are since long. shameful.

i wont believe him again in future that india is on par with chinese on qualitative terms of technology. neither quantity nor quality BS IGMDP
 

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@perry, he did't said what u are saying, when he says global standerds, he mean USA & Russia only. Pakistan & Nk dont even come to picture, on the same media briefing he say only three countries have ICBM. (send from mobile)
 

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@perry, he did't said what u are saying, when he says global standerds, he mean USA & Russia only. Pakistan & Nk dont even come to picture, on the same media briefing he say only three countries have ICBM. (send from mobile)
read galaxy post or post #103
 

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read galaxy post or post #103
this is post no 103

DRDO plans early entry of Agni-4 into arsenal

Ajai Shukla / New Delhi November 17, 2011

A day after the successful launch of the Defence R&D Organisation's all-new Agni-4 ballistic missile, a triumphant DRDO chief proclaimed it as good as America's Pershing-II missiles; and declared that India's missile arsenal could no longer be constrained by technology denial sanctions

Highlighting the capability of the Agni-4, V K Saraswat, DRDO head, told the media here that this 20-tonne missile could deliver a one-tonne warhead to a distance of 3,500 km, significantly further than the 3,000 kilometres range of the much heavier, 48-tonne Agni-3 missile. Saraswat listed the multiple technological breakthroughs that had permitted this feat — composite rocket motors; a state-of-the-art navigation system and control systems that were both lighter and better.

Asked by Business Standard whether the Agni-4 was qualitatively in the class of Pakistan's ballistic missiles (the Shaheen and the Ghauri), Saraswat responded, "Agni-4 compares with what is available (globally) in its class of missiles like the Pershing (US missile)"¦ I am talking in terms of technology, not in terms of range, as Pershing missiles have a higher range"¦ they meet global standards."

Saraswat may have mixed his facts, since Pershing II, the US ballistic missile he likened the Agni-4 to, is a decommissioned 1980s missile with a range of just 1,800 kilometres. But his claim, as evident from his other remarks, was that the Agni-4 met global benchmarks.

Saraswat also explained that the Agni-4 represented the final defeat of the technology denial regime that the West imposed on India from 1974 onwards. India, he said, could no longer be blocked from developing a world-class nuclear deterrent.

"No technology control regimes can stop us from making missiles in this class. We need to thank the technology sanctions for enforcing upon us a degree of self-reliance where we no longer need imports," said Saraswat.

The DRDO chief praised a range of Indian entities for defeating western sanctions. Defence PSU, MIDHANI developed "maraging steel" for missile components; Kerala Minerals and Metals Ltd (KMML) produces 500 tonnes per year of badly needed titanium; the blockage on Indian imports of composite carbon fibre — essential for the Agni's heat-resistant nose cone — was defeated. "We have made our own carbon fibre which is better than anything that is available from those foreign countries", said Saraswat.

The DRDO plans to quickly bring the Agni-4 into military service. "We hope to complete the test phase (two launches) in 2012; the user phase (two launches) in 2013; and in 2014 we would offer it for service. We have dramatically shortened the time from development to service," said the DRDO's missile controller, Avinash Chander.

Indian nuclear specialists worry that, although advanced simulation capabilities have reduced the requirement of actual test launches, there is a haste to introduce inadequately tested missiles into the Indian arsenal.

"In earlier times, missiles like the Pershing were fired dozens of times before being brought into service. Even on Wednesday, at least three to five launches are needed to verify that Agni-4's performance can be replicated in various conditions. Only then should user trials commence," says deterrence expert, Brigadier (retired) V K Nair.

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in bold red is the question which was asked by journalist, bold blue is answer from Dr. Saraswat. Now lets move to your comment about this. Clearly he has not answered the question but instead give his own answer. 8)

well saraswat also said that now the most modern missile of india the agni 4 is in class of shaheen and ghauri- pakistani missiles means he was bluffing earlier that indian missiles are qualitatively better than pakistani and chinese missile. we have now reached where pakistanis are since long. shameful.

i wont believe him again in future that india is on par with chinese on qualitative terms of technology. neither quantity nor quality BS IGMDP
Bold red part is what you are saying is said by Dr. Saraswat.
Bold Blue part is what according to you is meant by Dr. Saraswat.

He didnt said all these things mentioned in your post. :taunt:
 

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ah may be i was mistaken but saraswat dodged the question so taking the worst case scenario, agni 4 and paki missiles are put on same level. just for balancing sake.
 

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I think by ignoring the question, he has not given them any credit or compare their missile with ours. To ignore means we are not accepting that their missile is even comparable to ours. Plus always better to looks and compete with best.
 

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well words... he should have made some acts to present this thing. simply saying that leave pakistani or better compare with usa missile. he compared it to 1980 american missile. not to forget china and NK that means russians indirectly supplied missile tech to pakistan.
 

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well words... he should have made some acts to present this thing. simply saying that leave pakistani or better compare with usa missile. he compared it to 1980 american missile. not to forget china and NK that means russians indirectly supplied missile tech to pakistan.
i dont know why they refer to that missile, they should set their own goals.
 

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may be he meant technology and accuracy are comparable to it.
he sure made lot of people to read about persing missile
 

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see the confidence, also it explains the one of the reason for longer development cycle

DRDO plans early entry of Agni-4 into arsenal

The DRDO chief praised a range of Indian entities for defeating western sanctions. Defence PSU, MIDHANI developed "maraging steel" for missile components; Kerala Minerals and Metals Ltd (KMML) produces 500 tonnes per year of badly needed titanium; the blockage on Indian imports of composite carbon fibre — essential for the Agni's heat-resistant nose cone — was defeated. "We have made our own carbon fibre which is better than anything that is available from those foreign countries", said Saraswat.
 

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Eyeing China, India to enter ICBM club in 3 months

NEW DELHI: The countdown has begun. Within three months, India will gatecrash the super-exclusive ICBM (inter-continental ballistic missile) club, largely the preserve of countries like the US, Russia and China that brandish long-range strategic missiles with strike ranges well beyond 5,500 km.

However, it will become a full-fledged member of the club only when its most ambitious nuclear-capable Agni-V ballistic missile, which will be able to target even northern China if required, becomes fully operational in 2014.

Gung-ho a day after the successful test of the new-generation 3,500-km Agni-IV missile, senior defence scientists on Wednesday declared that Agni-V, with a strike range of over 5,000-km, would be test-fired within the December-February time-frame.

"The three-stage Agni-V is undergoing integration at the moment...it's on schedule," DRDO chief V K Saraswat said, adding that both Agni-IV and V were comparable to the best missiles in their class, including Chinese ones, as far as the technology was concerned. Agni programme director Avinash Chander said his team was "confident" of offering the 17.5-metre-tall Agni-V for induction to the armed forces by 2014. The much-lighter two-stage Agni-IV will be operational by 2013 after two to four more "repeatable" tests.

"Our aim is to take just two to three years from the first test to the induction phase," he said.

Once deployed, the 20-tonne Agni-IV and 50-tonne Agni-V will add the much-needed muscle to India's nuclear deterrence posture against China, which has a huge nuclear and missile arsenal like the 11,200-km Dong Feng-31A ICBM which is capable of hitting any Indian city. With higher accuracy, fast-reaction capability and road mobility, unlike the earlier largely rail-mobile Agni missiles, Agni-IV and V will give India the required operational flexibility against China since they will be capable of being stored and swiftly transported. If launched from the north-east, for instance, they will be able to hit high-value targets deep inside China.

India, however, is not in an arms race or "numbers game" like the US-Soviet rivalry of the Cold War era. "We are not looking at how many missiles China or Pakistan has. With a 'no first-use' nuclear weapons policy, we only want a sufficient number of missiles to defend the country in the event of a crisis. Ours is a defensive-mode strategy, even if others have offensive postures," Saraswat said. The DRDO chief added that "indigenous content" in India's strategic missiles had gone up to such a level, with ring-laser gyros, composite rocket motors, micro-navigation systems and their ilk, that "no technology control regime" could derail them any longer.

Then why not go for missiles that can fly around 10,000 km? DRDO claims that it has the capability to develop such missiles but the government does not want alarm bells to clang around the globe. India, after all, is interested only in "credible minimum deterrence" against the threats it faces. Saraswat said the current focus was on fine-tuning the Agni missiles to defeat anti-ballistic missile systems of potential adversaries. Towards this end, added Chander, the radar and other "signatures" of Agni-IV have been significantly reduced to make them "much more immune to counter-measures".

What will make the Agni missiles even more deadly is the development of MIRV (multiple independently targetable re-entry vehicles) warheads on which the DRDO is working. An MIRV payload on a missile carries several nuclear warheads, which can be programmed to hit different targets. A flurry of such missiles can completely overwhelm BMD ( ballistic missile defence) systems.

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If MIRV is used in Agni -5, then that would be a treat.:thumb:
 

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Then why not go for missiles that can fly around 10,000 km? DRDO claims that it has the capability to develop such missiles but the government does not want alarm bells to clang around the globe. I

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This is actually sensible move. We are still far behind China, Difficult to manage 2 enemies then why give reason to feel threaten to Russia, Europe, Japan and U.S., We are neither ready nor needed. Cross the bridge when it comes. We need to keep mild positive relation with U.S., Russia and Europe as of now.

May be we can test and operate ICBM with 10,000+ KM but we don't need to highlight it.
 

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This is actually sensible move. We are still far behind China, Difficult to manage 2 enemies then why give reason to feel threaten to Russia, Europe, Japan and U.S., We are neither ready nor needed. Cross the bridge when it comes. We need to keep mild positive relation with U.S., Russia and Europe as of now.

May be we can test and operate ICBM with 10,000+ KM but we don't need to highlight it.
we need long range missiles for submarine launch. for land based as of now 5000+ is good enough. let's get the latest technologies and build our infrastructure first.
 

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