Aftermath of Trump Victory

OneGrimPilgrim

Senior Member
Joined
May 18, 2015
Messages
5,243
Likes
6,810
Country flag
@Razor Of course Melania is pissed. She didn't sign up for this shit. She married an old fart like Trump so that soon enough he'll die and leave her enough dough so she could live comfortably for the rest of her life. Now she has to smile like an imbecile all day.

As for Antonia Maino, she along with several others were KGB plants. Nothing to do with Vatican.
can you write more about the last point? or links to sources to read?
 

Razor

STABLE GENIUS
Senior Member
Joined
Feb 7, 2011
Messages
7,701
Likes
9,099
Country flag
can you write more about the last point? or links to sources to read?
I wouldn't be surprised at all if Sonia/gandhi family received money or even maybe on payroll of KGB (though latter much less likely)
KGB are extreme manipulators, so sonia/Gandhi family, need not actually be on payroll to help out the soviets.

Manipulation Eg: The initial fires for the BD liberation was started by none other than KGB. They wanted to split open Pakistan; ##coldwarwithUSA.
And this is also the reason why they drove away the US carrier fleet when the US tried to scare India.
It is said that during a high meeting in 1971 with regards to the 1971 war, when asked by Indira what issues need to be discussed, some high level military official (don't remember who) told Indira that the US 7th fleet was approaching India. Indira simply noted and asked for the next topic. The official, thinking indira didn't quite understand what he said, repeated; and indira said, I heard you the first time, move to next topic. That was the confidence she had that the soviets would back her up.
 

sthf

Senior Member
Joined
Nov 21, 2016
Messages
2,271
Likes
5,327
Country flag
@OneGrimPilgrim

Can't remember sources for the Antonia part. It was somewhere on a blog about Indira Gandhi's PA's book (a whole other shit show), but it has been repeated time and again. IIRC Subramanian Swami was /is of the same opinion. But then, he too was a CIA stooge.

As for the other KGB plants & agents, Mitrokhin archives is what you are looking for.

Media in this country has been as useful as tits on a bull. These morons were too busy selling the chooran of celebrity gossip and too timid to report things that matter. For eg, Sanjay Gandhi once slapped Indira six times in the middle of a party and none had the balls to publish anything except a foreign journalist.

EDIT: This should interest you.

http://m.indiatoday.in/story/mitrok...tions-in-india--during-cold-war/1/192955.html
 
Last edited:

Razor

STABLE GENIUS
Senior Member
Joined
Feb 7, 2011
Messages
7,701
Likes
9,099
Country flag
@OneGrimPilgrim

Can't remember sources for the Antonia part. It was somewhere on a blog about Indira Gandhi's PA's book (a whole other shit show), but it has been repeated time and again. IIRC Subramanian Swami was /is of the same opinion. But then, he too was a CIA stooge.

As for the other KGB plants & agents, Mitrokhin archives is what you are looking for.

Media in this country has been as useful as tits on a bull. These morons were too busy selling the chooran of celebrity gossip and too timid to report things that matter. For eg, Sanjay Gandhi once slapped Indira six times in the middle of a party and none had the balls to publish anything except a foreign journalist.
Mitrokhin and also Bezmenov.

Also Maloy Krishna Dhar who is apparently ex-IB is also critical of KGB-Gandhi family links in his writings.
(Disclaimer: I haven't read it all, in entirety, just bits here and there, from online forums.)

Also @OneGrimPilgrim
 

OneGrimPilgrim

Senior Member
Joined
May 18, 2015
Messages
5,243
Likes
6,810
Country flag
I wouldn't be surprised at all if Sonia/gandhi family received money or even maybe on payroll of KGB (though latter much less likely)
KGB are extreme manipulators, so sonia/Gandhi family, need not actually be on payroll to help out the soviets.

Manipulation Eg: The initial fires for the BD liberation was started by none other than KGB. They wanted to split open Pakistan; ##coldwarwithUSA.
And this is also the reason why they drove away the US carrier fleet when the US tried to scare India.
It is said that during a high meeting in 1971 with regards to the 1971 war, when asked by Indira what issues need to be discussed, some high level military official (don't remember who) told Indira that the US 7th fleet was approaching India. Indira simply noted and asked for the next topic. The official, thinking indira didn't quite understand what he said, repeated; and indira said, I heard you the first time, move to next topic. That was the confidence she had that the soviets would back her up.
@OneGrimPilgrim

Can't remember sources for the Antonia part. It was somewhere on a blog about Indira Gandhi's PA's book (a whole other shit show), but it has been repeated time and again. IIRC Subramanian Swami was /is of the same opinion. But then, he too was a CIA stooge.

As for the other KGB plants & agents, Mitrokhin archives is what you are looking for.

Media in this country has been as useful as tits on a bull. These morons were too busy selling the chooran of celebrity gossip and too timid to report things that matter.
For eg, Sanjay Gandhi once slapped Indira six times in the middle of a party and none had the balls to publish anything except a foreign journalist.

EDIT: This should interest you.

http://m.indiatoday.in/story/mitrok...tions-in-india--during-cold-war/1/192955.html
:lol:
yes, know about mitrokhin & yuri bezmenov. soviet had a very strong hold over the Indian polity esp. in the decades succeeding our independence. know about IG being slapped incident too, albeit the chooran-sellers have seemingly dissed it off as being riduculously untrue.

however, why negate the possibility of maino & opus dei relations? i will search for MO Mathai's writings (if he's the one you hinted at).

Mitrokhin and also Bezmenov.

Also Maloy Krishna Dhar who is apparently ex-IB is also critical of KGB-Gandhi family links in his writings.
(Disclaimer: I haven't read it all, in entirety, just bits here and there, from online forums.)

Also @OneGrimPilgrim
i have one of his books ('open secrets'). not read entirely, but didnt see any passages about KGB-Gandhi relations in whatever i have gone through. this one's is in backdrop of Naxalbari violence & rise of maoism.
 

Krusty

Senior Member
Joined
Nov 26, 2015
Messages
2,529
Likes
4,869
Country flag
If the Saudis stop buying arms from USA then democracy will arrive at their doorsteps.
And ww3 will arrive at the worlds doorstep. KSA's greatest insurance isn't oil. It's the cities of Mecca and Medina
 

sthf

Senior Member
Joined
Nov 21, 2016
Messages
2,271
Likes
5,327
Country flag
@OneGrimPilgrim Yes I was talking about M. O. Mathai and his book. This "SHE" allegedly contained a not so family friendly picture of our very own IRON LADY.
 

airtel

Senior Member
Joined
Dec 25, 2015
Messages
3,432
Likes
7,816
Country flag
And ww3 will arrive at the worlds doorstep. KSA's greatest insurance isn't oil. It's the cities of Mecca and Medina
Can all the Muzzies of world Fight Against USA ?? No Never .

all of their weapons/communication systems etc are dependent on USA , there are American bases ,Aircraft carriers and submarines near all the Islamic counties ...........None of the Islamic country has the ability to Send their troops thousands of Kilometers away .
None of their Missiles have the range to reach USA ,
within few Hours of War they will destroy all the paki Nukes and other all the defensive /offensive capabilities of Muslim nations .

Also USA can just use another Islamic Group (Like ISIS , Kurds , SHIAs) against KSA ................and destroy them without actually fighting a war .

Muslims can not anything except terrorist attacks .

these countries can not defeat even Israel forget about world war .
 

airtel

Senior Member
Joined
Dec 25, 2015
Messages
3,432
Likes
7,816
Country flag
dailymail.co.uk
Two US aircraft carriers in show of force near North Korea
By Dave Burke For Mailonline




Two US warships are carrying out a dramatic show of force close to North Korea's borders in the wake of missile launches by despot Kim Jong-un.

The huge aircraft carriers, seen together for the first time, have joined with Japan's maritime self defense force for drills in the Sea of Japan.

It comes days after the US Pacific Command reiterated its 'ironclad commitment' to protecting allies in South Korea in Japan following the launch of a short-range ballistic missile by Kim's regime.

The USS Carl Vinson (front) and USS Ronald Reagan are carrying out joint training in the Sea of Japan today

This image released by the US Navy shows the USS Ronald Reagan (front) and USS Carl Vinson (right, at the back) carrying out drills in the Sea of Japan

The training exercises comes days after the latest missile test was carried out by North Korea. This image, released on Tuesday, shows a ballistic rocket being test-fired through a precision control guidance system

In April President Donald Trump declared that the US was sending an 'armada' to the Peninsula, in a statement which angered Pyongyang.

It subsequently emerged that the USS Carl Vinson, a key component in Trump's fleet, was actually carrying out exercises with the Australian navy in the Indian Ocean thousands of miles away.

The error emerged after the US Navy posted an image of the aircraft carrier in the Sunda Strait.

Tensions are high in the Korean Peninsula, with the North this week accusing the US of conducting 'a nuclear bomb dropping drill'.

Captain Doug Verissimo, commanding officer of the Nimitz-class aircraft carrier USS Carl Vinson, observes the Japanese Ship Hyuga, front, and the Nimitz-class aircraft carrier USS Ronald Reagan, rear, during a joint training in the Sea of Japan

In April President Donald Trump declared that the US was sending an 'armada' to the Peninsula, in a statement which angered Pyongyang

North Korean dictator Kim Jong-un has warned the secretive state will respond to US 'aggression' in the peninsula if it is attack

Japanese Prime Minister Shinzo Abe has said he intends to work with the US to deter North Korea.

But China has urged restraint, calling on both sides not to engage in provocation.

LEADERS VOW TO DEAL WITH NORTH KOREA AS PRIORITY
The US has led the efforts to bring further sanctions to punish the North and is urging China, Pyongyang's main sponsor, to play a greater role in applying pressure on the unpredictable regime of Kim Jong-un.

President Trump has said Monday's missile test showed 'disrespect' for China, while Japan's prime minister Shinzo Abe vowed that the 'North Korean problem is the international community's top priority'.

Along with South Korea, Japan is the most directly threatened by Pyongyang's provocations.

Monday's test was the second time this year that a North Korean missile has fallen close to its shores.

The Carl Vinson has been on high alert since April after missile launches by the secretive state, and has already taken part in drills with South Korean navy ships in waters off the Peninsula.

It has now been joined by the USS Ronald Reagan, which is back in operation following maintenance last month.

The training exercises with the Japanese navy are believed to be scheduled to last several days.

Washington described Thursday's drill as 'routine training'.

'The Ronald Reagan and Carl Vinson Strike Groups were joined by the Japan Maritime Self-Defense Forces (JMSDF) for routine training to improve interoperability and readiness in the Indo-Asia Pacific,' the US Seventh Fleet said on its Facebook page.

Japanese military officials declined to comment on the drill.

Navy spokesman Lt. Loren Terry told VOA that the operations in international waters have been designed to train commanders to respond to 'regional situations'.

The USS Carl Vinson was sent to the Korean Peninsula as tensions rose over North Korean posturing and missile testing in April. It is pictured on its way to carry out training exercises with South Korea

The USS Ronald Reagan pictured in Yokosuka, Japan. It has been undergoing annual maintenance ahead of the exercises alongside the Japanese military

He added: 'This unique capability is one of many ways the U.S. Navy promotes security, stability and prosperity throughout the Indo-Asia-Pacific.'

It is the first time in decades that two aircraft carriers have carried out drills close to North Korea, the US Naval Institute states.

The United States currently has 28,500 troops stationed in South Korea.

The USS Ronald Reagan, pictured earlier this month, is taking part in drills alongside the Japanese navy in the Sea of Japan

The USS Carl Vinson, pictured in April, has carried out operation drills with the South Korean military in recent weeks ahead of the wargames with the Japanese navy

Japanese Prime Minister Shinzo Abe (pictured with President Trump) has said he intends to work with the US to deter North Korea

The countries are bound by a mutual defense treaty dating back to the end of the 1950-53 Korean War, which ended in a truce that has left the peninsula in a technical state of war.

South Korea's defence ministry said on Tuesday that it had conducted a joint drill with a US supersonic B-1B Lancer bomber the previous day.

North Korea's state media had earlier accused the United States of staging 'a nuclear bomb dropping drill'.

The North's KCNA news agency reported on Tuesday that Kim had supervised the test of missile equipped with a new precision guidance system and an improved pre-launch automated sequence and a new mobile launch vehicle.

The US Navy aircraft carrier USS Carl Vinson, pictured in March, took part in joint training with the South Korean military ahead of the exercises alongside the Japanese navy

The USS Ronald Reagan (front) joined the USS Carl Vinson to take part in the drills in the Sea of Japan today

Kim said North Korea would develop more powerful weapons in multiple phases in accordance with its timetable to defend North Korea against the United States.

'He expressed the conviction that it would make a greater leap forward in this spirit to send a bigger "gift package" to the Yankees' in retaliation for American military provocation, KCNA quoted Kim as saying.

Chinese Ministry of Foreign Affairs spokesman Hua Chunying said: 'We have all been following how the situation on the Korean Peninsula evolves over the recent period of time, and hoping that tensions can be lowered, and that the nuclear issue of the Korean Peninsula can be brought back to the track of dialogue and consultation as soon as possible.

'The situation on the Peninsula is highly complex and sensitive. There is a window of opportunity for us to bring the nuclear issue back to the right track of dialogue and consultation.

'In this connection, we hope that all relevant parties would exercise restraint and do more to ease the tension and build up mutual trust, rather than provoke each other and escalate the tension.'

The US has hit out at North Korea over its weapons programme, and on Tuesday images were released showing a missile launch held by the secretive state


http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-4561764/Two-aircraft-carriers-force-near-North-Korea.html


 

Akshay_Fenix

Member
Senior Member
Joined
Sep 19, 2016
Messages
2,226
Likes
7,024
Damn!! It takes 2 months for an AC from US to reach North Korea. :eek1:
 

pmaitra

Senior Member
Joined
Mar 10, 2009
Messages
33,262
Likes
19,593
President Trump has delivered on his campaign promise and has taken a hike from the Paris Climate Huddle. The electric car guy Elon Musk, for whom I have great respect, has decided to quit the Presidential Councils.

Why did he do this? Was it out of concern for the climate or was it out of his personal business interests? An increase in fossil fuel usage will only stymie the proliferation of electric cars, such as, but not limited to the Tesla, Musk's flagship brand. One could draw a parallel with India's Demonetization. While Mahindra welcomed the move, Bajaj criticized it, and for their own business interests - Mahindra is a four-wheeler guy while Bajaj is a two-wheeler guy who sells more when there is more liquidity in the market. This was posted just to draw a parallel, not to divert from the main topic.
 

Krusty

Senior Member
Joined
Nov 26, 2015
Messages
2,529
Likes
4,869
Country flag
Can all the Muzzies of world Fight Against USA ?? No Never .

all of their weapons/communication systems etc are dependent on USA , there are American bases ,Aircraft carriers and submarines near all the Islamic counties ...........None of the Islamic country has the ability to Send their troops thousands of Kilometers away .
None of their Missiles have the range to reach USA ,
within few Hours of War they will destroy all the paki Nukes and other all the defensive /offensive capabilities of Muslim nations .

Also USA can just use another Islamic Group (Like ISIS , Kurds , SHIAs) against KSA ................and destroy them without actually fighting a war .

Muslims can not anything except terrorist attacks .

these countries can not defeat even Israel forget about world war .
You forget one little detail. It is the holy duty of every Muslim to protect Mecca and Medina. Most Islamic countries have an obligation to send their military to KSA if every the kingdom was attacked. Every Muslim believes he is Allahs soldier. But that isn't the 'little detail'. You are underestimating just how much Islam/Muslims has/have been infiltrated and integrated into every country in the world. You think the 3.5+ million Muslims in the USA will sit idly by if USA attacks KSA? One simple command from the speakers in Mosques 'Mecca is being attacked. Islam is in danger' is enough. Europe is in a worse condition still. Belgium is the hotbed is Islamists in Europe. Whole of Brussels will light up the moment USA Even tries neutralising targets in KSA. I have seen for myself. There are Islamic no go ghettos in Brussles and Paris where even the local police force stay out of. Every Muslim outside ME is a potential sleeper cell agent if ever KSA is attacked. It would go as far as rallying Iran to Islams cause. Have you considered these points?
IMG_3737.JPG


Peacefuls at work in Mumbai kicking Amar Jawan memorial when their bretheren are being attacked in Myanmar. What do you think they will do when Mecca is being attacked? Food for thought ...
 
Last edited:

airtel

Senior Member
Joined
Dec 25, 2015
Messages
3,432
Likes
7,816
Country flag
You forget one little detail. It is the holy duty of every Muslim to protect Mecca and Medina. Most Islamic countries have an obligation to send their military to KSA if every the kingdom was attacked. Every Muslim believes he is Allahs soldier. But that isn't the 'little detail'. You are underestimating just how much Islam/Muslims has/have been infiltrated and integrated into every country in the world. You think the 3.5+ million Muslims in the USA will sit idly by if USA attacks KSA? One simple command from the speakers in Mosques 'Mecca is being attacked. Islam is in danger' is enough. Europe is in a worse condition still. Belgium is the hotbed is Islamists in Europe. Whole of Brussels will light up the moment USA Even tries neutralising targets in KSA. I have seen for myself. There are Islamic no go ghettos in Brussles and Paris where even the local police force stay out of. Every Muslim outside ME is a potential sleeper cell agent if ever KSA is attacked. It would go as far as rallying Iran to Islams cause. Have you considered these points?

Peacefuls at work in Mumbai kicking Amar Jawan memorial when their bretheren are being attacked in Myanmar. What do you think they will do when Mecca is being attacked? Food for thought ...
they can do some riots , terrorist attacks but they can not Significantly harm a country Like USA ............
USA will simply deport/kill all of those 3.5 Millions in such situation ..........in the situation of world war , USA will just start crusade and forget about Human rights , secularism and other shits .

they Kicked Amar Jawan Jyoti Because we allowed them , they could not do shit in Burma and butchered like Pigs .

these bunch of Goons can not fight against trained , Professional & organized army ...............in the case of World-war Muslims will be killed .
 

Krusty

Senior Member
Joined
Nov 26, 2015
Messages
2,529
Likes
4,869
Country flag
they can do some riots , terrorist attacks but they can not Significantly harm a country Like USA ............
USA will simply deport/kill all of those 3.5 Millions in such situation ..........in the situation of world war , USA will just start crusade and forget about Human rights , secularism and other shits .

they Kicked Amar Jawan Jyoti Because we allowed them , they could not do shit in Burma and butchered like Pigs .

these bunch of Goons can not fight against trained , Professional & organized army ...............in the case of World-war Muslims will be killed .
Huh? Kill 3.5 million people in the US alone? :hail:

And then I suppose the 20+ million Muslims in Europe also can be 'killed or deported'. :hail:I don't understand.

They aren't cockroaches in your bathroom to get rid of using a can of HIT

Jeez... if only wishes were horses... mighty Russia would have cleansed microscopic Chechnya of Muslims.
 

airtel

Senior Member
Joined
Dec 25, 2015
Messages
3,432
Likes
7,816
Country flag
Trump Will Withdraw U.S. From Paris Climate Agreement
By MICHAEL D. SHEARJUNE 1, 2017

Continue reading the main story Share This Page



WASHINGTON — President Trump announced on Thursday that the United States would withdraw from the Paris climate accord, weakening efforts to combat global warming and embracing isolationist voices in his White House who argued that the agreement was a pernicious threat to the economy and American sovereignty.

In a speech from the Rose Garden, Mr. Trump said the landmark 2015 pact imposed wildly unfair environmental standards on American businesses and workers. He vowed to stand with the people of the United States against what he called a “draconian” international deal.

“I was elected to represent the citizens of Pittsburgh, not Paris,” the president said, drawing support from members of his Republican Party but widespread condemnation from political leaders, business executives and environmentalists around the globe.

Mr. Trump’s decision to abandon the agreement for environmental action signed by 195 nations is a remarkable rebuke to heads of state, climate activists, corporate executives and members of the president’s own staff, who all failed to change his mind with an intense, last-minute lobbying blitz. The Paris agreement was intended to bind the world community into battling rising temperatures in concert, and the departure of the Earth’s second-largest polluter is a major blow.

Mr. Trump said he wanted to negotiate a better deal for the United States, and the administration said he had placed calls to the leaders of Britain, France, Germany and Canada to personally explain his decision. A statement from the White House press secretary said the president “reassured the leaders that America remains committed to the trans-Atlantic alliance and to robust efforts to protect the environment.”



But within minutes of the president’s remarks, the leaders of France, Germany and Italy issued a joint statement saying that the Paris climate accord was “irreversible” and could not be renegotiated. :rofl::rofl::rofl:



https://www.nytimes.com/2017/06/01/climate/trump-paris-climate-agreement.html
 

Latest Replies

Global Defence

New threads

Articles

Top