Afghanistan looks to build new capital on Naya Raipur model

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    Afghanistan looks to build new capital on Naya Raipur model
    For Afghanistan, India remains a model on many counts. Now the strife-torn country is looking up to Naya Raipur, Chhattisgarh's new capital city, as a model for planning Kabul New City.
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    A group of Afghan officials have been in Raipur to study planning, funding management and development of the city under Naya Raipur Development Authority. With the assistance of Japan International Cooperation Agency (JICA), Afghanistan is going ahead with building Kabul New City - as the new capital for that country - covering 740 sq km, about double in size of the existing Kabul city.
    The project in Afghanistan is managed by Desabz City Development Authority (DCDA) of the Afghan government.

    On the selection of Naya Raipur - India's first 'smart city' which is based on sustainability, JICA's senior consultant Sayeed Anjum said that he had visited the area twice during his nationwide search to identify successful example of urban planning. Naya Raipur's development was convincing, and that paved the way for Afghan experts to learn about Chhattisgarh's new capital city. "Naya Raipur is the best example of phased development," Anjum told MAIL TODAY.

    "To meet the rising challenges, the Afghan government thought of building a new city adjacent to Kabul, just like Naya Raipur has been built adjacent to Raipur," Anjum said. While studying the Naya Raipur model, the Afghans focussed on infrastructure, management of projects and construction works, and the techniques adopted, Anjum added.

    The Afghan experts, who visited Naya Raipur for field studies, held dialogues with consultants here, and participated in seminars and training during their two-week stay in Raipur.

    They said Naya Raipur is indeed among the best-planned cities of the 21st century that will serve as a template for Kabul New City. As in the case of many other cities around the world, Kabul too is witnessing a rapid influx of migrants in search of employment and security. In the last 10 years, population of the Afghan capital has increased exponentially.

    With a surge in population, several informal settlements have sprung up in Kabul. It has led to pollution as a result of poor urban management and lack of infrastructure.
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    Afghan officials said that in Kabul there is lack of educational, health and recreational facilities. There is an urgent need to build infrastructure - transport, drinking water supply, energy, sewerage system and drainage being some of them.
    Several countries, including India, are involved in developmental projects in Afghanistan. JICA has been extending cooperation in 'capacity building' of the Afghan officials, besides assisting in development projects. Mohammed Shoaib Sahibzada, who was part of the Afghan panel, said the plan for Kabul New City was mooted in 2009.
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    "Master plan for the new city includes various kinds of land use. It features residential, commercial and industrial facilities, infrastructure, public facilities, green spaces, parks and agriculture," the Afghan team informed.
    The plan will be implemented over the next 25 years.

    The Afghan officials in Raipur said they were impressed by the international standards adopted to develop Chhattisgarh's new capital. "The accomplishments of the Naya Raipur Development Authority (NRDA) have inspired us," an Afghan official told MAIL TODAY.

    NRDA chairman N. Baijendra Kumar said, the new capital city is "fast becoming" a model for best urban planning. "Such visits, like the one by Afghan officials, help in better networking as we share how the underlying concepts for Naya Raipur have been successfully implemented," he told Mail Today, adding that a lot of credit goes to political and administrative will for the successful implementation.


    Read more at: Afghanistan looks to build new capital on Naya Raipur model : India, News - India Today
     
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    Yesterday news : Taliban sets fire to 400 oil tankers in Afghan capital.Kabul.

    I said earlier there is no hope in Afg, at end of 2014 NATO leaves afg would fall in civil war (the intensity of war dependent on India if we help less CW else total destruction) :scared2:
     
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    These guerrilla fighters cannot conquer cities and hold them ....... all they can do is this kind of attacks.

     
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    Great. Afghanistan must develop and its in our interest to help them. Good to know about Raipur too. :)
     
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    Gorillas can't conquer cities but they can do best what they known for DESTROY the city,only one thing stopping afg fall to civil war is NA forces which r funded from US&Nato once they leave..................... IRAQ

    U didn't get it i hope Afg also develop like any other country,Karzai is called kabul mayor still he failed to save kabul (outskirts)

    Afg is total messed up place with warlords,talibans,sectarian differences,gun culture,drug market,Countries with strategic interests (US-Rus-Pak-Ind..........to minor KSA,Chi) what not
     
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    US already left .... leaving only thousands of troops in Afghanistan ....... What ever troops that are left will stay there until 2024.

    The war between Taliban and NA forces will be at best like the war between a guerilla warfare unit and a professional army.

    Desertions and some ISI elements do cause problems for NA but overall they are funded and backed by NATO, India and Iran.

    The offensive what is happening right now is summer offensive .... happens every year.

    Warlords problem is not there any more most of them are in democratic setup.

    Taliban are a major problem which can be dealt accordingly.

    Sectarian differences, gun culture, drug market exists in most of the progressing countries as well.

    I hope the democratic set up in Afghanistan comes to an agreement regarding the polls ....
     
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    @Srinivas_K i didn't expect such fantasies from u

    In the absence of the Americans, the fast-moving Sunni insurgency of the Islamic State of Iraq and the Levant has prevailed over Iraqi security forces, conquering several cities

    Last month, Obama announced that about 10,000 troops would stay in Afghanistan at the end of this year but be fully withdrawn by the end of 2016.

    Iraq crisis raises questions over U.S. forces withdrawal from Afghanistan | Mail Online

    The Center for Strategic and International Studies estimates (PDF) that from 2001 to 2013, U.S. budget outlays for Afghanistan totaled $642 billion. That doesn’t capture spending on veterans and further benefits related to the war. For 2012-3, the Department of Defense spent about $191 billion on Afghanistan

    International support for the Afghan military has doubtless played a role in containing the Taliban. “As long as donors remain willing to pay their salaries, the sheer numbers of Afghan security personnel—possibly in the 370,000 range today—are a formidable obstacle to large-scale strategic gains by the insurgents” concludes the International Crisis Group. It’s worth noting that the U.S. alone spends over $3,000 per Afghan per year on the war—over four times the country’s per capita gross domestic product. The Department of Defense spent $567 per Afghan per year on the country’s military alone. That’s four-fifths of Afghanistan’s GDP per capita.

    In Afghanistan, Give Cash a Chance - Businessweek
     
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    By 2016 Afghanistan will have close to 10000 US troops and also NA will be assisted with airpower, drones and satellite networks to ward off any Taliban offensive.

    The only worrisome development now is Afghanistan presidential election stalemate, I hope those issues will be resolved soon and Afghanistan will have stable Govt.

    Regarding costs of war on the US, US is getting more than what it is spending on Iraq or Afghanistan, By controlling oil prices, Advanced weapon testings, strategic space denial for asian powers, combating Islam, controlling drug markets etc....etc...

    USA is for business and strategic interests ...... USA benefits from wars.

    Taliban also conducted this kind of raids when US presence is there to full extent in the past.


    Last week there is a major offensive in Helmand and other districts around this region , this is the latets news

    Taliban leader killed in Afghan intelligence operation in Helmand

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    At least seven terrorists were eliminated following an operation by Afghan intelligence – National Directorate of Security (NDS) operatives in southern Helmand province.
    NDS following a statement said Sunday that six militants were also arrested during the operation.
    The statement further added that the opertion was conducted in Lashkargah city which resulted in the death of Taliban leader Mullah Jamaluddin who is also recognized as Mullah Khaksar.
    Afghan intelligence operatives also confiscated various types of weapons and explosives during the operation, NDS said.
    It also added that the detained militants have confessed that they were invovled in major terrorist activities in Nad-e-Ali and Lashkargah districts.
    The Taliban militants group has not commented regarding the report so far.

    Taliban leader killed in Afghan intelligence operation in Helmand - Khaama Press (KP) | Afghan News Agency


    I agree Afghanistan is hell !!! but stabilization in the next decade is not an impossible task.


     
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    Just remember one thing TALIBANS are fearsome fighters, ISIS ka baap
    ISI(PA) supports talibans 100%

    just calculate Afg with non existent economy ,how can they pay salaries,logistics,oil,arms to 4,00,000 army (Min 30,000 soldier/month) =120,00,000,000 rs/month 144 bn (2.4Bn Dollors min) yr to just maintain forces

    Ok then u say they have mines............ taliban after leaving US first they butcher every foreigner,destroy infrastructure.What ever US established economy will be destroyed in months.Then who will fund army NONE.So at most NA can hold 2 or 3 cities more than that no way:scared1:
     
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    Is it ???
    Taliban are brave people ...... when in an open field it is the training that gives the edge.


    USA, NATO, India, Russia and Iran are willing to support Afghan forces. 2 to 3 Billion dollars is no big deal for these countries.

    Yes they will do these things if there is no strong force to resist them, But that force is already there and is growing strong each day in the form of Afghan armed forces.
     
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    Ok let rephrase it..........

    Talibans after US/Nato will destroy infra & butcher foreigners......... to control them they NA need 3 bn only for security........... ok some countries provide money but how long on what condition &why so many questions........ what abt economy,who provide employment for them without these they more radicalize and join talib/alkaida etc and more violence............ circle will rotate.......... civil war......more destruction


    From last 12 yrs US failed u think within few months NA/afg govt can do it :pound:

    In short....... Afg become Somalia2 by their fair contribution to make afg a Somalia2 POR**** will also in line to become Somalia3 :rofl:
     
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    The opposition for Taliban is in their lands in the form of Afghan Army ...... it is not that foreign power has to stay there and check mate Taliban.

    What ever advantages Taliban have in Afghanistan will also have to Afghan Army if not more.

    Plus Afghan Govt. have economic support from countries around it. Economic activity will pick up once Chahabar port is operational.


    Afghanistan existed as a country with self sufficiency before Taliban came ..... I think you are forgetting that.


    To Chale Afghanistan ..... :thumb:

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    Dehsabz is way too close to Kabul. It will lead to amalgamation over time rather than a new city.

    Also anyone who thinks the ANSF hasn't done its job has their head in the sand. The problem is Karzai's insane policies. Everything will be better once he leaves.
     
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