Afganista : US Arms dump after "Withdrawal" a BIG security risk again

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  1. rock127

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    Afganistan : US Arms dump after "Withdrawal" a BIG security risk again

    From hundreds of Humvees and Mine-Resistant Ambush-Protected Vehicles (MRAPs) to lakhs of anti-tank missiles and machine guns, US troops deployed in Afghanistan will leave behind all their war-fighting equipment when they leave the country as part of the 2014 drawdown plan.

    The military hardware the US would leave behind in Afghanistan is large enough to equip a sizeable army. Up to 30,000 MRAPS and Humvees, night-combat equipment, grenade-resistant netting, light and medium machine guns, rocket launchers and mobile radars among others.

    If the US is to lug everything back, it will need 28,000 vehicles and 20,000 shipments. And the cost of ferrying the equipment to the US will be a staggering $6 billion, which obviously doesn't make economic sense and, therefore, the decision is to dump it in Afghanistan. That's worrying news for India.

    Over the past week, there has been intelligence warning that Pakistan-backed terror groups are playing the waiting game to lay their hands on these leftover arms. Pakistan too is eyeing the weapons and armoured carriers. A source in South Block told Mail Today that Pakistan purportedly wants the military hardware to fight terror groups but he warned that given that country's past record, some of the sophisticated equipment may be trained against India.

    The Afghan National Army is also in the race. Some weeks ago, senior Indian diplomats approached US State Department officials in Washington relaying India's concerns on reports that the US was considering a request by Islamabad to acquire armaments being used by the US in Afghanistan. India's security czars are already firming up strategies to tackle the spillover of the chaos in Afghanistan post 2014 when there will be a thinning down of the US and NATO-led International Security Assistance Force there.

    US officials played down India's fears. "It is unlikely that we will handover sensitive equipment to a third country, we will take this back or destroy it and, in some cases, it will be protected so that only the intended recipient can use it," a diplomatic source told Mail Today. Still, the weapons pose a clear and present danger to India.

    In fact, the US Government Accountability Office came out with a report accessed by Mail Today that pointed out that the US military failed to keep complete records on some 2,22,000 weapons entering Afghanistan. The US military failed to keep proper records on about 87,000 rifles, pistols, mortars and other weapons sent to Afghanistan between December 2004 and June 2008 - about a third of all the weapons sent. The military even failed to record the serial numbers of some 46,000 weapons.
     
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    Re: Afganista : US Arms dump after "Withdrawal" a BIG security risk ag

    Sometimes beggars get without begging.

    Also as always India is the sufferer for somebodies mistake(US).

    Anyways I am sure most of these weapons will be used against India in J&K by pakistan. Security establishments in India should collect all the data(whatever Data is available) from US detailing what all weapons( Types ) will be handed over to Afghanistan & pakistan. Based on this data India can have counter measures.
     
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    Re: Afganista : US Arms dump after "Withdrawal" a BIG security risk ag

    Another sensationalist article. "India is in danger from Humvees!" None of the vehicles will be allowed to slip into Pakistani hands. and otherwise there is nothing on that list that Pakistan can't throw at India today if it wants.
     
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    Re: Afganista : US Arms dump after "Withdrawal" a BIG security risk ag

    Seems like the image in first post not appearing... below is a better idea of what COULD be the danger.It's not the humvees.

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    US pullout from Afghanistan could pose security crisis for India as America plans to dump weapons and military hardware | Mail Online
     
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    Re: Afganista : US Arms dump after "Withdrawal" a BIG security risk ag

    IMHO... Best thing for India to do is to buy half the equipment at a cost equal to the cost of US shipping the other half of the equipment back to US.

    Things India can buy...

    M134
    MK 19
    M2
    M4
    Javelin
    Small equipment like BPJ/NV etc.

    This should give them enough dough to transport the humvees, mraps, strykers and other stuff back with them.

    Treat the weapons acquired like captured weapons from tangos

    Consider the payment as buying security for India.
     
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    Re: Afganista : US Arms dump after "Withdrawal" a BIG security risk ag

    @rock127 I saw the graphic, but the belief that some Pakistani rag-tag groups are just going to walk in and get the weapons is outlandish. Most of the more advanced weapons in the graphic are only available to commandos and SF personnel, not regular army or police.
     
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    Don't underestimate the "rag-tag" groups.The gurilla war is effective since ages.They ambush even when there is a huge US troops and just think when it goes down to 10-20k.

    Ambushes and stealing the weapons would not be impossible and as you can see a significant amount of weapons are unaccounted for/missing which is enough to keep the rag tag militia alive.

    India should be vigilant in this and get some weapons if possible.
     
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