‘Anti-terror’ exercises in Tibet

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    Apparently, it is not mere Tibetans setting themselves on fire.

    The situation must be worse than what is reported, and anyway nothing can get reported from Tibet and Xinjiang since the movement of foreigners are restricted and overseen by minders.

    Why this sudden scare amongst the Chinese?

    The Chinese have huge amount of troops and police in Tibet and they have Sinicised or Han-ised Greater Tibet as it is.

    So, why is sudden scare?
     
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    Things seem to be getting hot in Tibet!
     
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    Tibetan self-immolations: 'Clashes' in Sichuan province
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    Two more Tibetans are reported to have set themselves on fire in Tibetan areas of China, in protest against Chinese rule.

    A monk named Lungtok and a man identified as Tashi set themselves alight in Aba, Sichuan province, on Monday evening, said Tibetan sources.

    Clashes between Chinese security personnel and Tibetans reportedly broke out following the self-immolations.

    More than 40 Tibetans have set themselves on fire in the past year.

    Five - these two men and three previous protesters - have self-immolated in the last 10 days alone, say campaigners, in what appears to be an escalation of Tibetan protests inside China.

    An unconfirmed report says one Tibetan was beaten to death.

    'Batons spiked with nails'
    Twenty-year-old Lungtok and 21-year-old Tashi "set themselves on fire inside a prayer-wheel hut near Kirti Monastery in Ngaba Town", reported campaign group Free Tibet, using the Tibetan name for the town which China refers to as Aba.

    "Once they were in flames, [they] came out of the hut and walked towards the street now known as Martyrs' Street," overtly linking their action to the protests of previous self-immolators, it said.

    Chinese paramilitary police quickly moved in with extinguishers, local sources said, and whisked away the two men. Free Tibet said Lungtok died and Tashi's condition was unknown.

    Multiple reports suggest that following the self-immolations Tibetans began to demonstrate and their numbers quickly increased.

    "Eyewitnesses report that some demonstrators were beaten with metal batons spiked with nails and that some people were dragged away," said Free Tibet.

    Many people were injured and some were detained, it said.

    A source who spoke to Radio Free Asia (RFA) said one Tibetan was beaten to death, but this report has not been confirmed. RFA also carried a report of a third self-immolation, but this too was unconfirmed.

    'Incitement'

    A woman who answered the phone at the Aba police department denied any self-immolations or protests had taken place, reported the Associated Press news agency.

    Kirti Monastery has been the focus of protests for over a year now and is ringed by Chinese security forces, says the BBC's Damian Grammaticas in Beijing.

    But they have proved unable to halt the self-immolations.

    China's leaders blame the Dalai Lama, the Tibetans' exiled spiritual leader, for inciting the self-immolations and encouraging separatism.

    He rejects this, and both activist groups and the Tibetan government-in-exile say the self-immolations are protests against tight Chinese control of the region and religious repression.

    BBC News - Tibetan self-immolations: 'Clashes' in Sichuan province
     
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    There seems to be something going grossly wrong with the Chinese control of Tibet.

    Maybe the Dalai Lama is proving to be a greater inspiration to the Tibetans.

    Things don't look comfortable for China.

    If the Uighurs use this opportunity, things will get to be a bit more disastrous for the Han Chinese and their Govt at Beijing!
     
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    On the contrary, Dalai Lama is the person who has managed to keep the Tibetan youth away from the path of violence. It is speculated that after the death of Dalai Lama the movement will shun the non-violent ways.
     
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    violence will not solve the issue, if there is some kind terroist attack, it give the government more excuse to send in overwhelming force to crash down any potential terrorist suspect. and they won't get any sympathy from international. china won't go easy on terroist. also han outnumber tibet/uighur what 100:1, so violence is the worst way to make the point.
     
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    I don't think the Tibetans will resort to terrorist attacks.

    Terrorist attacks can be expected of the Uighurs.

    On the issue of international view, even if there is violence, it will be always be with the Tibetans and the Uighurs as we saw in the last Uprisings/ strife.

    I would not believe that the Tibetans did not retaliate in the last Uprising. I am sure they did and would have damaged the property of the Han and Hui. And yet, there was hardly any condemnation worth its name from the international community. The reason possibly is that the international community feels that the Chinese Communist Govt is too harsh and is capable of using a sledge hammer to kill a fly.

    Even with the Uighurs and they can be very harsh and cruel, the terrorist actions were overlooked and more was made out of the fact that the Han was not giving the share that the Uighurs deserve in their homeland.

    There is no doubt that China will not go easy with the terrorists and they will come down heavily.
     
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    I think you are right.

    The new generation of Tibetans are restive and restless and want action.

    They have also openly been unhappy with the view of the Dalai Lama.

    The new PM of Tibet Govt in exile has exhibited belligerence in his opinions and speech.
     
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    no the media was bias and bashing china on the uprising, however, no government really do anything. its all just words. look at the result of those uprising, tighter security, china bring in thousands police into region, tighter religion control etc. no international government will intervene. 1. its internal issue, 2 china is not genocide them 3. money talk, and china has alot trading partners.

    the tibet/xinjing is lose cause, there is no possible way for them to become independent unless china have a civil war. the best they can do for themself is adapt to the situation, and take the economy opportunity to give their family a better life. the only way they can have more religion freedom is when china doing an overall change in political reform. or they can move to other country if they prefer to have more religion freedom.
     

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