A unforgettable victory of india

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  1. JAISWAL

    JAISWAL Senior Member Senior Member

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    By Maroof Raza:

    DEC 15:40 years ago on December 17, India witnessed its finest military hour (and consequently Pakistan’s darkest hour), with the liberation of Bangladesh and the surrender of 93,000 Pakistani soldiers in East Pakistan. The fall of Dacca, as the city was known then, surprised many because of two reasons: first, a nuclear-armed US 7th fleet was ready, waiting to intervene and second, Pakistan’s eastern army had enough men to delay the Indian offensive, until a United Nations (UN) ceasefire would send Indian troops back to the original borders. While the common perception is that the war started on December 4, 1971, even the Central Intelligence Agency was unable to “determine to any certainty as to which side had initiated hostilities on 3rd December”. While there were fierce battles on India’s western borders, the campaign in the east, was spectacular.

    Initially, India’s politico-military leaders in Delhi — fearing a UN ceasefire — were in a hurry to establish a free Bangladeshi government in the port towns of Khulna and Chittagong, after Soviet Russia informed Delhi that it couldn’t keep vetoing resolutions at the UN for a ceasefire. With limited time, the Indian Army was rushed — bypassing Opposition — to swiftly liberate Dacca. Later, a study of India’s campaign by Pakistan’s National Defence College concluded that: “the credit really goes to General Jacob’s meticulous preparations in the Indian eastern command and to the implementation by his Corps commanders” for India’s blitzkrieg in East Pakistan (now Bangladesh).

    Dacca fell, despite the fact that there were 26,400 Pakistani soldiers in the city and only 3,000 Indian soldiers surrounded Dacca. On December 16, during a lull in the battle, Lieutenant General JFR Jacob, Chief of Staff, Eastern Army Command during the 1971 war, sought permission to meet Lieutenant General AAK Niazi to seek his surrender. When in Dacca, Lieutenant General Jacob said to Lieutenant General Niazi that he’d ask him thrice to surrender. If the latter didn’t respond, he’d go back to Calcutta and order the annihilation of Pakistani troops by ruthless bombing.

    India had complete air superiority, and Lt Gen Niazi was aware of that. In fact, a warning by India’s Army chief General Sam Manekshaw had already been aired. Lt Gen Niazi knew he was cornered and when he was asked the third time, he simply broke down. The next morning at 9, the world witnessed the largest military surrender since World War 2, and the parade was commanded by Lt Gen Niazi’s ADC, at Lt Gen Jacob’s insistence. The Hamoodur Rahman Commission, which was set up by Zulfikar Bhutto to probe their military disaster, concluded that India had achieved its victory because Lt Gen Niazi lost his nerve. Lt Gen Niazi later admitted that Lt Gen Jacob had ‘blackmailed him into surrendering’.

    Declassified records show that the main aim of the US was to protect General Yahya Khan and Pakistan from dismemberment. Within Pakistan, there was a belief that China would come to its assistance in the event of a war. General Khan kept telling his commanders to “wait for Yellow (China) in the North and White (the US) in the South” — but Beijing (then Peking) did not care to interfere. This was in keeping with India’s assessment. After the war, Bhutto even lamented, that China “had not fulfilled its obligations to Pakistan as promised”.

    However, despite our military gains, India’s policymakers failed to put in place a favourable political arrangement — which was the ultimate aim of the war — with a new Bangladeshi government in place. India could have sought guarantees from Bangladesh on three essential issues: first, rationalization of border enclaves; second, transit rights for rail and through Bangladeshi waterways and third, guarantees for its Hindus. But DP Dhar, a close associate of Indira Gandhi, and then head of ministry of external affairs policy planning division, apparently assured our generals that “these problems are political and can be sorted out later”. They never were. And we returned those 93,000 prisoners for nothing!



    Maroof Raza is the author of Generals and Governments in India and Pakistan
    The views expressed by the author are personal

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    A victory, and little else - Hindustan Times
     
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  3. W.G.Ewald

    W.G.Ewald Defence Professionals/ DFI member of 2 Defence Professionals

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    Cornwallis had his ADC surrender at Yorktown.
     
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    Iamanidiot Elite Member Elite Member

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    Lt Gen Niazio got the epithet "tiger" because he was a surrender monkey:rofl:
     
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    civfanatic Retired Moderator

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    Has it been 40 years already?

    Salute to those Indians who fought for their motherland. We will never forget their sacrifices.
     
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    Yusuf GUARDIAN Administrator

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    Maroofs last para is exactly the same as what I posted a few days back in another thread about India's failure in 71. Failure to secure its interest in the east establishing connectivity to north east.
    We should have annexed a bit if the north of BD which would have given us a but if depth near chickens neck ad also taken the Chittagong area to get sea route to north east.
     
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    sesha_maruthi27 Senior Member Senior Member

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    My father was also in the war and he to participated in the BADA KANA on the VIJAY DIVAS day at SRINAGAR.

    JAI HIND.............

    "Aye mere vatan ke logon zara yaad karo qurbaani, jinhone hamare jina bahoot asaan karne keliye apni jaan qurban kardi is desh ke naam pe"..........

    VANDE MATARAM...........:india: :india: :india:
     
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    I am again posting this video. Please enjoy the video and remember those BRAVE SOLDIERS who sacrificed their lives for the sake of our Well being and in the name of the MOTHERLAND.

     
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    Glorious victory but we achieved nothing with this...it was a fight between east pakistani bangla speaking muslims and west pakistani punjabi speaking muslims....after reading views of bangladeshi muslims on other forums i am pretty sure that helping these people was biggest mistake in our history...just read following para by bangladeshi on other forum..

    we should have just let refugees come for a while and should have refused to let in other refugees after that...if only we did not have woman as a PM at that time..
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    nitesh Mob Control Manager Stars and Ambassadors

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    nitesh Mob Control Manager Stars and Ambassadors

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    Now listen to the paki turds :rofl:






     
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    nitesh Mob Control Manager Stars and Ambassadors

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    this should be shown to every paki turd every day he do some bravado

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    Ray The Chairman Defence Professionals Moderator

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    Maroof is an ex Armoured Corps officer.
     
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    nitesh Mob Control Manager Stars and Ambassadors

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    This is our late PM speaking, a keeper




     
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    Ray The Chairman Defence Professionals Moderator

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    If we had annexed anything, India would have lost its high moral grounds that, even today, makes Pakistan as the villain of the piece, assisted by the US, in the international arena.
     
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    I stated that as well in that thread that we chose morality over strategic interests which should have been paramount.
     
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    Kunal Biswas Member of the Year 2011 Moderator

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    View from other forum does not matters..

    These people are not Bangladeshi at all, Even if some are they are living outside Bangladesh with Pakistanis in their coloney..

    Never fall for Internet PR specially from a Radical terrorist forum..
     
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    My dear Friends this arguement about India taking POK in retuen for POWs is absurd

    Because India was screaming at the top of its voice in the UNSC that it has NO territorial Ambitions

    That is HOW we could keep at bay US and Western and OIC Sanctions

    We wanted to be seen to be doing HUMANITARIAN work

    Though we were cutting down our enemy to size
     
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    pankaj nema Senior Member Senior Member

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    Indian diplomats at the UN were INSTRUCTED the following

    1. NOBODY should be seen at the BAR

    2. No chest thumping and jingoistic and celebratory statements

    .3 No display of triumphalism

    4. Talk only of the Humanitarian crisis in Bangladesh

    5. Stress again and again we are not against people OF west Pakistan
     
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    although i agree with you on this but i have balgadeshi friends on FB too and they are the same...lol why do we need to use these forums as a proof? just take a look at their closeness with china,the country who stood against their existence in UN and now they are licking their *%$...
     
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    Kashmir HAD been NOTIFIED as a territorial dispute in 1948 to be settled in accordance with the wish
    of Kashmiri people

    So to ride ROUGH SHOD over UNSC resolutions when we were already getting away with
    "MURDER" of Pakistan is like asking FOR the MOON
     

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