A Federation of Balochistan, India, & Sindhu Desh

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  1. Sindhifreedomfighter

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    By B. R. Gowani

    The violent actions of the Muslim militants and the willful inaction of the Pakistani government seem premeditated and designed to let the country get destroyed and disintegrate. The disintegration could also come through a civil war involving many ethnic, political, and religious groups. One may wonder if the leaders of the Pakistani government have reached an understanding with NASA (National Aeronautics and Space Agency) that the first livable planet discovered in our galaxy by their spacecraft will be allotted to Pakistan so that it can build a new Pakistan there. (See today’s final posting.)

    Humor aside, every passing day is pushing Pakistan further towards abyss. Like the Indian movie character Devdas, Pakistan has set itself on the course of self-destruction for a long while now. The situation in Pakistan is really serious. Can the people of Pakistan fight these religious loonies?

    Members of the political parties in Pakistan have always had weapons, but now they may be accumulating more as the country gets further engulfed in uncertainty. Most of its residents, however, do not have weapons and they lack the ruthlessness of the militants. They have to be protected by the government. There is no denying that Pakistan is dying and the only resuscitation that could probably work is the government’s firm and successful counter-action against these loonies. Even if the government decides to clash head on, there is no guarantee that it will be successful because sympathy for the militants has penetrated the military and civilian populations, therefore increasing the hopelessness of the situation.

    Adding fuel to the inferno are other factors:
    • the return of Zardari’s corrupt behavior,
    • his removal of Shahbaz Sharif as Punjab’s governor, and
    • the Supreme Court’s barring of his brother Nawaz Sharif from elected office
    • the Sharif brothers are equally corrupt and dishonest
    • Nawaz Sharif has always been cozy with the Islamists and will have no problem in exploiting the current crisis to his advantage
    • Jamat-e-Islami party has expressed its support for the lawyers who are protesting against the Zardari government for not reinstating all the judges who were removed by Musharraf.

    Pakistan was created in the name of Islam but religion didn’t prove a bond which could hold the country together. And now that the nation is on the path of shrinking further (East Pakistan seceded to become Bangladesh in 1971); how many more parts will the country break into is anyone’s guess.



    CIA Fact Book

    (In the Twentieth century, Israel is the only other country that was created in the cause of religion. Incidentally, it is also on the path to self destruction; although in a contrary manner. It is inviting its own destruction through expansion, that is, by grabbing more and more of the Palestinian land, which is in turn inciting an increasing number of Palestinians to be willing to give up their lives. This could become a major problem for the survival of Israel.)

    Most Pakistanis do not want to see their country disappear from the world map, or that it gets reduced to the sole province of Punjab. However:
    • the forced division of the Pashtun people living in Afghanistan and British India (now NWFP or North West Frontier Province of Pakistan) through the Durand Line in 1893 by the British <1>,
    • the continuous unfair and inequitable treatment of Sindh, Baluchistan, and NWFP by the province of Punjab, and
    • the creation of Taliban and their growing power

    have all created a very ugly situation indeed.

    Territorial partitions are frequently accompanied by atrocious violence — particularly when the division is performed as a result of a remnant colonial situation. The creation of Pakistan from India and the end of the British rule in 1947 saw a bloodbath of huge unimaginable proportion, where a million people lost their lives. (The date for independence was initially set for June 1948 but changed to the earlier date of August 1947 with the last Viceroy, Lord Louis Mountbatten (Queen Elizabeth’s uncle-in-law), presiding over the division.) Mountbatten could have resolved the Kashmir issue but did not do so, and it remains unresolved to this day. The Kashmir problem never permitted the two neighbors to develop any lasting amicable relationship. In 1965, Mountbatten summed up the mess he had created with the words: “I ----ed it up.”

    What Should Be Done?

    These are critical times. The forces within and without are committed to changing Pakistan’s map. To avoid any more tragedies in South Asia, where too many people have suffered for too long, it behooves all to resolve the issue with learned wisdom from the past and to contemplate the solutions with a calm rational approach and not by waving Pakistani flags and screaming patriotic slogans. Since Pakistan’s creation, the latter tactics have only brought it harm. It is more crucial than ever to act prudently now, as this is a matter of survival for Pakistan.

    Balochistan and Sindh both have access to the sea and are not landlocked; the former has the newly Chinese-built seaport of Gwadar and the latter has an international seaport. Also, both have an adequate amount of natural and human resources. This gives them the capability to survive as independent countries. But the geo-strategic importance of the area indicates that, from a security point of view, it will be difficult for them to gouge out the evil eye or rather the greedy eyes of the US and the emerging super powers of India and China. (A few years ago, the former US ambassador to Pakistan, Wendy Chamberlin remarked: “We are a player in the Pakistani political system.” And they are not going to give up this role in the near future.)



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    One practical solution, if implemented conscientiously, is to form some form of loose federation between India, Sindh and Balochistan. Why India? Because Sindh has a long physical border with India and also they have all been one country in the past. Additionally, they are culturally, linguistically, and politically closer to India. At the very least, Defense and Foreign Affairs should be handled jointly by all three partners.

    Before making any such commitment, internally, Sindhi and Muhajir leaders will have to reach a truce first. (Muhajirs or “refugees” are the Urdu speaking people who migrated from India during the Partition. They have many relatives in India. Many Sindhi and Muhajir leaders have always felt friendly and emotional ties with India. The Sindhis within India and outside have felt the same affinity. The Indian opposition leader Lal Krishna Adwani was born in Karachi, Sindh.)

    Next, the joint Sindh and Baluchi leaders will need to approach the leaders of Punjab to inform them about their intention to leave the Union. Punjab, in all probability, will not agree to this partition and try to discourage it by any means possible.

    Further, it is of prime importance that Sindh and Balochistan not join the federation as one single unit but should instead join as two separate entities in order to minimize future problems. Also, Sindh and Baluchistan are both rich in land mass and should be able to accommodate the refugees from the Taliban on their land, and should provide for that in the Federation plan.

    What Should India Do?

    India will have to change its patronizing Big Brother attitude towards its neighbors. Nepal and Sri Lanka can attest to the bad experiences at being India’s neighbors. India should also reach an amicable solution to the Kashmir problem by including the participation of the Kashmiri people. India should also address the grievances of the people of Northeast India who have been marginalized and attempt to resolve their issues. India will need to learn to be fair and inclusive with all its partners. It will have to reign in its ego.

    Currently, the Indian elite class is really flying high. And the speed with which the Indians in the US are operating and gaining influence in the US, the day is not far that it may overtake the powerful Israeli Lobby. Vijay Prashad points out that the Indian American Task Force (IATF) is imitating the Israeli Lobby and wants to become the “Indian Lobby”. But all that the Israeli Lobby has accomplished is to deny justice to the Palestinian people and turn Middle East into a cauldron. Does the IATF want India to do the same with other South Asian countries which are already hurting with other problems?

    If the India-Sindh-Baluchistan federation gets formed and is successful, it will prompt other South Asian countries such as Bangladesh, Nepal, Sri Lanka, Burma, and Maldives to join the federation. Who knows, the new Pakistan may decide to join it ultimately.

    Of course, India is a powerful country and can ignore these issues; but this it will do at its own peril. Let us reflect on the example of the greatest Super Power. Its arrogance has weakened it economically (out sourced labor) and ruined it financially (failed financial institutions).

    B. R. Gowani can be reached at [email protected]

    See the map for the FATA (Federally Administered Tribal Areas) and the NWFP (North Western Frontier Province).

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  3. Yusuf

    Yusuf GUARDIAN Administrator

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    Very bad idea is only thing I can say. Yes Sindh and Balochistan should separate as that us the only solution to the mess called Pakistan, but no federation is warranted. India can and will take part in development process like India does in Astan. We can have good trade relations etc.
     
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    civfanatic Retired Moderator

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    As Yusuf said, Sindh and Balochistan should separate from Pakistan as independent states. India can help protect the young new republics and support their development, but a physical union with India would be a very bad idea.
     
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    Igniting false hope of Indias "help" in protecting and developing "young republics"?? How cruel once those "freedom fighters" get disillusioned! Just take a look at how much "development"India has brought to old neighbors like NP BD and SL?

    Like I repeatedly wrote those Baloch and Sindh militants r merely terrorists fighting hopeless fights. Only Chinese takeover of Gwadar will give Baloch a genuine chance!

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    at least we are leagues ahead than you chinis when it comes to helping our neighbours.just look at the Vietnam incident,first you guys gave them the assurance that you would do anything which was humanly possible to help their newly independent country but then suddenly you turned against them and invaded their country without any provocation!on the other hand we haven't attacked any of our neighbour in the last 40 years.Period!
     
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    Yusuf GUARDIAN Administrator

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    Ask the Afgans what they think about India.
     
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    sesha_maruthi27 Senior Member Senior Member

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    I like to congratulate YUSUF BHAI on reaching 21100 posts.............:hail::hail::hail:
     
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    At least the lankans and bangladeshis are not eating there own infants like Nkoreans in order to survive. Koreans must be very grateful of big bro china, aint it ?
     
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    Day Dreaming

    First let us create strong India (and complete) . than we can think of these-that federation
     
  11. Sindhifreedomfighter

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    niether do we sindhis agree with the idea of federating with india. We are struggling for an independent sindhudesh. The material was related to the subject of sindhudesh so just shared it for the info.
     
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    No issues. All sorts of ideas are discussed here. We do support Sindh and Baloch independence.
     
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    Iranian Balochistan should also be apart of Free Balochistan.

    Sindhi is Exclusively Indic. Slaves of Allah who desire Islamic Sindhu Desh can Jack Off under Pakjabis. Sindh will be Incorporated in the Indian Union.

    Balochistan will be the Buffer State of the Western Part of Indic Civilization!
     
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    lol
    let suppose even if this happen the nukes will still remain with Punjab which threatens the existence of India or dating back India to indus civilization era
     
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    Islamic Republic of Punjab will be Stripped of any Army.

    Pakjabis would only be doing Mujra for Indians, Sindhis and Balochis. :rofl:
     
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    Thanks for lettin us know that all your nukes are in Punjab. Easier for us to know which areas to level :D

    What it also means is that you don't trust Sindhis so don't station your nukes there. You can't station in Balochistan coz your missiles may end up falling in Sindh or Punjab.
     
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    Sindh will not be assimilated into Indian union.
     
  18. roma

    roma NRI in Europe Senior Member

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    it is hard to think that any ( relatively ) small state one would want to get engulfed into a massive lumbering giant like india ( or indeed china nor russia ) when they have an option to go it alone independent , start from scratch and all the benefits for themselves and not having to get involved in teh corruption of a large huge and non - modern system

    pre- independence 1947 right up to the actual partition was handled with the minimum of strategic forward - thinking and unwarranted "generosity " ( read give-away of GB'stan ) ....and now we see the price that has to be paid for such rash and non-deliberated decision -making

    what india should offer to Bstan and s'desh is a defence -security union ( like russia's CIS ) and some economic union pact ..... many hindu sindhis will be returning to S'desh so econ union might be a good idea
     
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    Sindhudesh and Balochistan will have natural alliance with India. Because the freedom movements are based on secular nationalism not religion.
     
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    roma NRI in Europe Senior Member

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    S'desh is more likely a secular movement but i am not so sure about B'stan - we should not make the same mistakes as the great Mr N to simplistically assume goodwill on the part of others - some down payment of goodwill would be an indication of future attitudes and if not forthcoming we should ask "why" ?

    we should not be afraid of inquiring and facing the truth and making preparations for that ..... we assumed that b'desh would be fair-minded but hardly 15 years after india aided their independence , it seems they wanted to bite our hands ? independence to B'desh should have been given on an exchange of territory basis where India gets to extend the assam area to have a sea connection and in return we would give them some of our territory to ensure that their total land area remained the same .

    None of this was looked into or seriously considered - When it comes to military and strategic planning it seems we are hardly any better than an African country ! ……

    i Would hardly be surprised if the same mistakes are repeated again and again with s’desh and b’stan regarding helping them for independence

    - we give our soldiers blood for their independence and after 15 years they say that the past is over and they prefer to link with pak and china against us .
     
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    I fully agree to your POV. Sindh was, is and will always be a secular state. Sindhis by nature are seculars and this can be gauged from the fact that least amount of riots took place in Sindh during Partition. King Kalat had infact sent a signed Letter of accesion to India to Nehru in 1947 itself but Nehru took no notice of it. I am for a complete assimilation of Sindh in India, After all our nation and this state have the origin of their names in Sindhu River. For us Indians it is our Identity. same goes for Balochistan.
    I have always been in favour of this kind of reunification leaving aside the Punjabies and NWFP who have traditionally been non seculars and violent.
     

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