A Dreamed India

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    Ten Imaginations for a Dreamed India

    now days we read the political adds of different political parties going to election, like one as below. which gave me an idea to put my own view about a dreamed India, what i would advise from my side, as how we used to look on India while thinking on it as a successful nation when we used to have time with friends before I moved overseas for higher studies. :thumb:

    what exactly we think, we need to have for a Dreamed India, like how we used to imagine at a time :ranger:


     
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    1st; Maintain Foundation of Indian Democracy for the Life of India, the Nation

    Indian Democracy and it Values, we Proud on

    The meaning of Independence India got in 1947

    in short i may say,

    "as part of our freedom, there is no law in India which makes difference among the people based on religion/ race/ language/ state etc, there is no super human like British anymore in India, and now we pay taxes to that Indian government which use it for the purpose to help the people based in India, not for the WW1 and WW2 to help Britain. with providing Equal Rights to all and more opportunities to the weak part of Indian society like Dalits/ Women, in terms of reservations in jobs/competitive exams and that's fair. at the same time we proud to say that we had many minorities Presidents/ PMs/ Chief Ministers/ Governors/ Chief Justice/ IAS topper/ Bollywood superstar/ Cricket Team Captain etc, and we proud to say that we got this type of country from our elders who fought for our freedom and we are responsible to give the same type of country to our coming generation too. we just can't compromise our "Independence" for any reason. and we have to defend our Independence from any type of external threat, which we are currently facing in terms of Sectarian War mainly in North East, from the Bangladeshi infiltration..."

    "We now pay tax to that Indian government which use the tax money to help the people based in India itself, develop infrastructure in India to improve life of the people based in India, while before that we were paying tax to those British to help them in their wars. Mr Gandhi struggled to have Industries in India, who may then provide jobs to Indians and hence pay taxes to Indian government for the purpose to use this tax for the people based in India. and yes we have got that 'freedom', and trying to improve. and we now proud to say that we have made a place where the most deserving people get higher success, regardless in which family they took birth, (of any religion/ race/ language/state etc). and we hope India will become one of the best place to live by using their talent/ knowledge this way"
    :india:


    the above statement used the word "super human British" before 1947, frequent use of "freedom", "independence", as i prepared my above statement on 15th August this year........ the above statement has a clear sense to demonstrate "democratic structure" of India on the world platform, in terms of "Equal Rights" for all, "more opportunities" for weak part of society like Women/Dalits in different exams/ jobs, as we have. with putting concern over the growing threats of "Sectarian Wars" in north east region due to Bangladeshi Infiltration. here, Freedom/ Independence of India is defined in terms of "non-religious" foundation of Indian Democracy of Hindu Majority, and our Independence/ Freedom has the main threats from Sectarian Wars, fueled and funded by rogue neighbors of India......
     
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    2nd; Energy Consumption Equation to be based on Controlling Pollution of Cities

    Gas as The Prime Fuel for Vehicles in India

    Gas is the 'cleanest' "High Grade Energy", which may be used for vehicles too. its price is always cheaper than petrol/diesel, and would obviously be much cheaper than market rate for a long term contract for a high demanding market like India, the biggest market at the closest geo-graphical proximity to Iran. Iran, which has second largest gas reserve after russia too...... a gas pipeline with a big cross sectional area is needed, for a long term contract to cover the whole western region of india is needed at present, along with the current supplies of gas from eastern region we already have.....

    India needs to rely more and more on LNG for vehicles etc. first Gas engines are always bit cheaper than petrol and diesel and also its a very less polluting source of energy...... government would consider to reduce tax on those passenger vehicles which require gas to run its engine. once we imagined India to be having a type of tax system which would encourage the three categories of vehicles as below. :truestory:

    1st; 2 wheel drives like bike etc to be run by Petrol.

    2nd; Passenger four wheel vehicles like cars/buses/ auto ricksha etc to be run by Gas only, a majority at least by reducing taxes on gas engines and higher tax on diesel/petrol engines. (auto ricksha on electricity is also a concern.)

    3rd; Vehicles to transfer goods like trucks etc to be run by diesel, a cheaper fuel than Petrol to reduce transportation bill, while being operated outside cities.

    (with a separate tax systems for luxury cars, as we already have.)

    (and a Gas pipeline with a big cross sectional area from Iran would be the big concern in this regard, to fulfill demand of gas, which has the second largest gas reserve of world, and India is the largest market in its closest Geo-proximity. and this idea would get more strength with the recent news that pipeline under sea route is now cheaper than that of the pipeline on the surface too, hence avoiding any type of transit problems through pak too this way :thumb:)

    => "Having metro rails in all the cities/ more modern express ways etc too", but these things are the basic things. its clear that you have to have more and more metro lines in cities, similar to other infrastructure projects. and we do see progress in this direction too, but we demand more expenditure on Infrastructure projects....... and yes, transferring a big portion of the city population to electric metro trains is the most Ideal way to reduce pollution of cities :india:
     
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    3rd; Having More and More Special Economic Zones

    for the person i think like, having more and more SEZs only means for progress. i even strongly favor all the infrastructure developments to be based on "primarily" supporting SEZs, which would be non-taxed for both, the industries for export purpose and also for domestic supplies. there would a way of developing infrastructure like high speed roads, ports, airports, water-electricity supplies in India etc, which would be 'primarily' meant to support SEZs. :india:

    for me, there is only and only one meaning of a "Progressive India", the number of SEZs it may built which would be at least of the same standard to that of Chinese ones. which would be properly supported by other infrastructure projects like ports, high speed roads, airports, water-electricity supplies, transportation etc :truestory:

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    => SEZ units hit tax hurdles for domestic supplies | Business Line :facepalm:

    and as discussed above, now India needs to do much more to have more SEZs. we hope its number to be thrice by 2020, to meet the industrial growth target. India simply can't achieve its target to bring the manufacturing share to be around 25% of GDP target until we have "Structural Reform of Indian Economy", and having more SEZs is the first step in this regard.

    to prepare for the circumstances at 2020+, India does need a type of "Structural Reform" considering industrial production growth. India already have a range of Institutions, for high to low level skills, with new infrastructure projects like express way/ ports/ airport etc, along with reaching Youth Literacy rate closed to 90% soon. its filled with highly competent professionals, at a low salary, and only hurdle in this direction for having more SEZs........

    and we have been getting news that acquiring farmers lands has been the main issue in this regard. and here we find an Asian country like Singapore to be a type SEZ as a whole country, then why this big country like India has so much problems in acquiring lands for SEZs? we had this type of problems in 50s and 60s also when the government wanted to lay down roads and there used to be much resistances from the same type of farmers demands. then why can't India acquire the prime lands by 'forceful' methods, as it were adopted before also, for the key infrastructure projects in 50s to 80s? i mean, if a land of farmer cost 1.0 lacs per 1000 square feet then just through 3.0 lacs for those lands and get it????? and if there is more resistance then just through 5.0lacs+, 5 times, for the same type of land?????

    such a big country like India, which is even net exporter of food grains but it faces problems for acquiring lands for SEZs, just because of farmers?, i always doubt why???? :ranger:
     
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    4th; No Above the Nation

    only those would be allowed to live in India who understand 'The Values' of Father of Nations, as below :india:

    few key points is as below:- :thumb:

    A leader as a single person represents many millions.

    when motive of even the father of nation is suspected, his prestige must go.

    Rise and fall of India is determinant of sum total of quality of her many millions :india:

    non-violence to be the basis on any domestic or geo-political issue etc :india:


    as per letter of Mr Gandhi, written to second father of nation, Netaji S.C.Bose as below

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    The dream has turned soured.

    Yet, there is hope!
     
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    5th; Establishing Homeland Security as a National Priority

    we need a strong homeland security system, which would link all the government's systems of the country to achieve the common goals. and i have some more ideas in this regard, along with the goals/mission/vision etc Indian systems already have, for their purpose to establish a proper homeland security :india:

    1st; a common civilian must have at least 2 identity card, while walking on the streets. Youth Literacy Rate of India would touch 90% by this year, and it means that the common civilians are responsible to to declare their identity at any time, whatever requested by a police man. along with Voter ID card, a civilian must be able to show at least one more ID, either Pan card/ DL/ birth certificate, to avoid going to police custody for a while, until he/she manage to show at least 2 IDs....

    2nd; every person taking birth must have a birth certificate. and not having the same must bring punishment for the parents of that certain kid taking birth.

    3rd; India needs to make its systems more "EFFECTIVE" now to face the global challenges, which won't be handicapped by any political party..... something like, a proper Home Land Security with bringing the different departments together to achieve the common goal, which would be linked with each others, no matter which party comes in power. and hence the whole system would then work as a single system to ensure the security of the nation as whole. an EFFECTIVE enough system which may put any person on the trial, if he/she doesn't do his/her honestly, violate laws while his employment for personal benefits. and example of Mr PVN Rao must be given to all those who may come in power, of any party :india:
    (and why not, its not just India but we have example of many other Democratic countries where there was no law to defend the corrupts PM/President, when they didn't do their duty honestly. whether former pres of US, Mr B.Clinton who could hardly avoid punishment for having sex with his secretory during working hour, former Indonesian Pres Mr Suharto was sent to jail for corruption, former Italian PM was also sent behind the bars last year, bla bla.)


    4th; we need a system which would be 'primarily' meant to defend those people who are building the nations, mainly top businessmen/ celebrities and other influential people, who have influence on the society to an extent.... and the concept behind it, "there is no meaning to sacrifice lives of our soldiers on the border if we can't defend those who are building the nation. who have influence on the society to an extent" :no:

    for example of top business people/ billionaires, who are billionaires not because they have money in pocket, but they billionaires in terms of the industries they have, which provides employments, generate high taxes on the their businesses. the tax revenue which the government use for helping common people/ build infrastructure. their industries also introduce new technologies to improve overall life of common Indian civilians this way. (for example, how cheap mobile service has changed life of common people to an extent.). i even favor a Cabinate level security for the top 50+ businessmen of India. (while hoping that these businessmen may afford to pay for the expanses of their security too, if the government ask.) and I would like to see its start from the gentleman as below :india:

    Have already given 25% of my wealth to charity: Azim Premji, Wipro - Economic Times :spartak:

    similarly we need a reasonable level of security for other businessmen, influential people of India, who have enough influence on the society, and hence they must be defended by the systems of Indian society too. we won't reach a day when our these honored businessmen/celebraties/other influential people may become toys on the hands of those who may then use these people against Indian society itself :nono:


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    I think, the businessmen may themselves pay for the expanses, if the government ask. while it may be little expansive for the lower order businessmen/celebrities etc, so it would be negotiated


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    a very fair question and I appreciate your contribution in this thread. from here, could you please let us know, what good you find in this post which is about giving special status to those people who are building this country? I mean, do you find few good things in my post, what exactly I meant to say here?

    (there is a difference between Arts and Science and when we deal with the Arts, if we lose something on the one aspect then we gain on other side at the same time. thats true.....)

    from here, please check this news as below and make a comment on it. why the 'would be' largest selling car of India, the cheapest car, the NANO's manufacturer preferred to move to Gujarat from West Bengal? while even Kolkatta, one of the 4 metro, is located in this state? what exactly the Gujarat provides to the businessmen/influential people/ celebrities, which has very high growth rate in India even if it already has high base of income, but still its growth rate is very high due to high level of industrialization, and hence generating more taxes, employment, prosperity, new technologies this way????

    hence here, how exactly West Bengal's government is good for its people, while not helping those businessmen who may bring prosperity to this state???????


    => I think the post below must have a place within this post:

     
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    6th; Maintain Infrastructure Spending over 10% to GDP till 2050

    when we think about a Dreamed India, if you ask a kid then he/she would say, "we would have high speed roads, modern Airports, Metro Trains in towns, City buses in all the cities like how we have in Indore, bla bla." and this all means to have higher spending on infrastructure. and as always demanded from economists, India must achieve and maintain Infrastructure Spending over 10%+ to its GDP for the next 30-40 years time.

    we have few excellent example of recent Infrastructure developments in India as below. and we would like to see this type of metro trains, city buses like BRTC, airports, new Economic Cities like Gift City as below, etc we want in all the cities/states of India.

     
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    Analysis as below generally have variations upto 20% to 40% to their estimate, but we may have a look on the current Infrastructure Assets of India, in comparison to emerging economies, w.r.t. to US/Germany too as below. here we find India and Brazil both need much more to catch up with emerging China


    => India to spend USD 1 trillion on infrastructure in next 5 yrs - Indian Express
     
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    we have a picture of changing India as below, which may have a place here too, i think :tup:






     
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    7th; Maintain and Reduce The Traditional Crime Rate, at any Price
    Japan must be considered as a Role Modal to build a Prosper India, with Lower Crime Rate too :india:


    here, we have a legend to learn from the mistakes of today's industrialized nations, and we find there are mainly 2 categories of Developed Nations. one with very low crime rate, which includes Japan, Taiwan, Singapore, Korea type Asian Industrialized nations. while on the other side we find US and many other Wealthy Countries gained wealth along with very high crime rate too, no matter how much Welfare/Social Security/Medicare etc they provide to their people. and India must learn from these nations, there must be a study on the high crime rate of US/West, before India become a Rich nation. :india:

    we have data's of 2008 as below, before recession in US so it does mean that this analysis explains the peak of US, it had till 2008. and there must be a common consensus among all the political parties, systems of India that India must maintain 400 or below criminal incidents per 100,000 population in future too, even if it maintain low growth rate also, but we want crime rate of India to be lower than what it traditionally maintained till 2008, as below :india:

    for example, Indian politicians, bureaucrats, senior position holders in security agencies may sit altogether and discuss, "what if India register only 2% growth rate for the next 20 years, will it help us maintain the current crime rate, 400 Total Crimes per 100,000 population, with a space to reduce it too in future? and even if we get (-)ve growth rate from today, is it a better option as compare to have high growth rate and then have a very high Crime Rate society like Rich US/West? or, we may learn something from Japan, which has Buddhist background, means having some similarities with Indian cultural background too, to maintain low crime rate, along with high Growth Rate:"


    The Role Modal of Asia, The Japan :japan:

    here we find Japan's prison rate at very close to India, even if its the most advanced nation of Asia, while owning the best technologies of world, which was developed by the Japanese people itself, (in contrast to USA which mostly hired migrant professionals.) and the reason behind it, the "Likelihood of being a Vitim" is itself very low at 13.11, the lowest due to their Cultural Background, i think. here we find Japan refusing to accept that being a rich nation means for high crime rate too

    => List of countries by incarceration rate - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia
     
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    Preparing Industries for the Circumstances at 2020+

    its good to see but i strongly believe that this type of news would mean to show gains on the domestic level only, not on the trade side. you do need enough to outperform Chinese goods in the world market. but yes this would definitely help you maintain or reduce your trade deficit for the next few years.
    (trade data's of India since 2011 shows export at $300billion and import at $500billion, almost same for the last 3 years, hence having trade deficit at around 66% to total export. while even if China's export is well over $2.0trillion, it register Trade Surplus by a good margin :ranger:

    List of countries by exports - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia

    List of countries by imports - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia


    and its good to see Indian home industries taking enough breath due to fall of Indian Rupees, while its is estimated that the currency is around 17.6% over valued at Rs 60/ UD$

    Even at 60 levels, rupee still 17.6% overvalued: Nomura


    => you won't be able to beat Chinese firms in terms of cheap labor and there are certain reasons behind it. and the first one is its population, which is around 1.4billion. and even if it reach Middle Class number at 700million by 2020, it will still have half of the population as the cheap source of labor. which is closed to even total population of US+EU at around 700million......

    and second, its industries are now going to be in competition to Western once, hence you do know that having competition with China is going to be as tough as with many major industrialized nations. only cheap labor isn't going to help you on the world market :nono:. and from my side, i may say that if you wish to beat China on the international market then you have to prepare an India which would beat East Asian countries by 2020, (Japan/Korea/Taiwan). as you do know, even if your industries won't be able to reach this certain state, Chinese firms look very determined to beat its western rivals within just 5-6 years from now :wave:

    and from here, when you wish to come in competition with OECD economies, you have to keep eyes on the table as below too, where China is going to get the first spot within just 5-6 years from now, highly likely :tup:

    => List of countries by patents - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia


    => Patents simply means to have new technologies to beat your OECD rivals. here i do remember our usual talks within the last firm i was employed with, with my boss Mr KJ Lawrance in WMA Ltd, he generally used to say while our trips to clients that we are going to see a time when Japanese firms would start copying Chinese technologies, very soon. :ranger:

     
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    FIIs likely to prefer India over China; bet on IT: Deutsche


    Marco Ravagli, director and senior portfolio manager for global emerging market equities, Deutsche Asset & Wealth Management spoke to CNBC-TV18 regarding his outlook on the emerging market economies. According to him, a strong government at the centre is the need of the hour. Ravagli also believes 2014 to be a very good year for the Indian market, especially the second half. He also says that China has lots of headwinds going forward and therefore, India can prove to be a good investment destination for a lot of global equity investors who are seeking for other opportunities. Also Read: Buy now, market likely to become expensive post polls: IIFL Ravagli remains positive on IT sector and prefers private banks over PSU banks. Below is the interview of Marco Ravagli with Menaka Doshi and Anuj Singhal. Menaka: How is India placed in 2014 given the global setup, the taper, the emerging market nervousness seen in January, the finance ministers Budget yesterday, the upcoming elections and the continued nervousness regarding emerging market currencies? A: India is on its marks and is waiting for a start. There are lots of opportunities. We have to wait for the new government and hope for a steady one. India already has a very good RBI governor. The regulator has done good improvement in the past trying to regulate the market. RBI governor is very well recognized by the international investors right now. So, the next step which is important is strong government. It is necessary to improve the outlook for India. However, there are plenty of opportunities. As far as Indian market is concerned, it can be a very good year in the second half. Anuj: You have a view that India can replace China in emerging market basket for global investors? A: Relatively speaking that can be possible as China has lots of headwinds going forward for good reasons. A lot of global emerging markets and a lot of global equity investors are seeking for other opportunities. India can definitely be one of these opportunities. Anuj: I am looking at your India equity fund and within that IT dominates – 24 percent. IT has done the best last year. This year also we have seen atleast for starters the IT stocks do well. Is that going to be the big theme for the first half atleast until we have the election results? A: Absolutely. We stayed defensively positioned to the stock which would benefit from developed countries GDP growth and still relatively weak currency in India. So, this is the theme for the first half. Second half may be totally different picture.



    Read more at: FIIs likely to prefer India over China; bet on IT: Deutsche - Moneycontrol.com
     
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    Stop reservation based on caste system at all costs specially in recruitment of teachers because a student who got 20 marks and get selected for teacher post, how he can teach as he himself does not know. Teachers has the prime responsibility of shaping future. All 10 pnts mentioned above are true and govt should work on these instead of fighting with opposition for winning election.

    Jai hind,
    Jai bharat
     
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    as what i was discussing just right now, a Dreamed India would be designed to bring more participation of Women in jobs, specially in professional jobs, which is very low as below :thumb:

    => Employment to population ratio - 15+ - male (%) in India (80%)

    => Employment to population ratio - 15+ - female (%) in India (30% :tsk:)


    here, do we need more reservations for Women in jobs/exams? :facepalm:

    why do we find this type difference between these above two data's for India? :ranger:
     
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    Can you quote the relevant parts of the Constitution on these issues, except the issue of reservations for SC/ST?
     

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