90 percent rape cases in Haryana are consensual sex : Congress Spokesman

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    90 percent rape cases in Haryana are consensual sex, says Congress leader

    Congress president Sonia Gandhi might have sought the harshest punishment for rapists during her recent visit to Jind in Haryana. However, the leaders of her party in the state do not seem to agree as they have been giving bizarre statements on the issue of spurt in rape cases.

    A couple of days after Haryana Congress president Phool Chand Mullana cited "political conspiracy" behind the increase in rape cases, party's spokesperson in the state, Dharamveer Goyal, sent ripples through the state, saying 90 per cent of such incidents were consensual.

    However, suicide committed by a 16-year-old Dalit girl, who too was a victim of gang rape, belies the Congress's claims. The girl could not bear to live with the trauma and ignominy of rape.

    In his brazen remark, Goyal said in the majority of cases there was consensual sex and the stories of rapes were cooked up. He slammed the media for "blowing the rape issue out of proportion".

    National Commission for Women (NCW) chairperson Mamata Sharma slammed the Congress leader for his slur against the rape victims. Asking the definition of rape, she criticised the leader for his remark, saying it was an attempt to cover up crimes against women.

    Ironically, Goyal's statement seemed to be based on Haryana's top cops' reports who, in their action taken reports (ATRs) submitted to the director general of police (DGP), too had doubted whether these rapes actually took place.
     
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    It seems everyone in Congress has contracted 'foot-in-mouth' disease :fim: from Shri Robert Vadra following his 'Mango People in Banana Republic' which was followed by his brother-in-law Shri Rahul Gandhi's 'India is the 21st Century's Saudi Arabia' :rofl: :rofl:

    It is popcorn and beer time these days in politics :popcorn: :daru:
     
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    Congress pulls up Haryana leader for saying 90 per cent rapes are due to consensual sex

    New Delhi: The Congress on Friday distanced itself from its Haryana spokesperson Dharambir Goyat who left the party red-faced by saying that 90 per cent of rapes are consensual. Goyat was issued a disciplinary notice by the Congress and asked to explain his comments. The Congress leader's rape remark, which came following a spate of rape cases in Haryana in the last one month, also came under severe criticism from across the political and social spectrum. The state has reported more than 15 rape cases in less than a month and Haryana government has been facing criticism for its failure to tackle the crime.

    Reacting to the party spokesperson's comment, the Congress earlier in the day, too, dismissed it as a personal comment while the Opposition said that Sonia Gandhi's visit was merely a face-saving exercise. Congress leader Jagdambika Pal said, "It is not the statement of Haryana Congress or the Government. The Chief Minister has assured that the government will take strict action against the accused. It must be Goyat's personal opinion."

    Goyat had blamed the women and said that 90 per cent of rapes happen due to consensual sex having gone wrong. In a shocking and bizarre statement, the Congress leader said, "I don't feel any hesitation in saying that 90 per cent of the girls want to have sex intentionally but they don't know that they would be gang raped further as they find some lusty and pervasive people in the way ahead."

    Reacting to the incident, BJP leader Mukhtar Abbas Naqvi said, "This is unfortunate that Congress party's stance remains unchanged, even after Sonia Gandhi's visit. The Haryana government should be treating this issue with more sensitivity."

    CPI-M Politburo member Brinda Karat also reacted to the statement and said that it exposes the hypocrisy of the Congress. "First Sonia goes to visit the victims and pledges solidarity and then her ministers make such statement. Everytime they open their mouths, it is only to insult women."

    Earlier this month, a Khap Panchyat member gave a bizzare 'solution' to the 'rapes' and suggested that the marriageable age for girls should be reduced to 16 years. When asked why rapes are occuring at this scale in Haryana, Sube Singh said that movies and television are to be blamed for rapes.

    Former Haryana Chief Minister Om Prakash Chautala, too, backed Khap Panchayat leaders' bizarre solution for rape. Chautala also compared the rapes in Haryana to Mughal atrocities. He said that in the Mughal era, people used to marry their girls to save them from Mughal atrocities and currently a similar situation is arising in the state. "I completely support the Khap Panchayat's decision. It is a good way to protect women," Chautala said.

    Congress President Sonia Gandhi had lashed out at the Khap Panchayats saying only Judiciary will decide the law and not Khap Panchayats. Sonia sent out a sharp message to Khap panchayats saying they cannot supersede the judiciary. Sonia also said that strictest action will be taken against the culprits in the rape cases. She said those guilty of such heinous crimes, which take place not only in Haryana but elsewhere too, must be "severely punished".

    The Haryana Government has drawn flak from all quarters, particularly the opposition, for its alleged failure to prevent incidents of crime against women. Asked about the Haryana government's "failure" in controlling such crimes that also involved many Dalit victims, Sonia said, "I have said what I had to say that such barbaric acts are condemnable".
     
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    Well then he needs to be raped and then we can say it was consensual
     
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    I don't know whether it is 90% of rape cases but some cases are consensual.

    Consensual cases are registered as rape as boy refuse to marry that girl after having physical relationship.
     
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    Those happen but are rare. What's happening in Haryana is 'rape' because the victim doesn't know the perpetrators. And haryana has become famous for these. Recently, a girl killer herself after getting gang-raped. So, its not proper to write them off as consensual sex.
     
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    consent can be taken with force, fraud, undue influence and intoxication, etc, but all such cases will fell into the definition of rape.
     
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    CPI-M slams Haryana Cong leader for rape remark

    PTI, STAFF WRITER 16:5 HRS IST

    New Delhi, Oct 12 (PTI) CPI(M) today slammed as "utter hypocrisy" the statement by a Haryana Congress leader that 90 per cent rapes in the state were "consensual" and said the party has given licence to its leaders to "defend the indefensible".

    Party leader Brinda Karat also condemned statements by ruling and opposition parties in Haryana condoning the views of khap panchayat that girls should be married off at 16 years.

    "It shows utter hypocrisy of the Congress and the Haryana government.

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Yeah, but definition of rape also must be considered. Whether it's a consensual or not having sex with a girl below 16 years of age is rape. And what you're trying to say is probably right.As I've seen same kind of reports here in Gujarat,too. No offence but some people from lower caste in rural region has no shame.Most of people are having extra marietal affairs and when somebody relative of woman sees her with another man and if he has personal problem with him(that's also usual in rural areas), they press rape charges on him.Well, I can't vouch for other states,but such things happen here but I guess,not in amount that Haryana is facing.
     
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Not rare, suicide after gang rapes are very rare,consensual 'rape' cases are very vast but you can't find other cases as they're not 'suited' for national interest. You should come with me in any CHC where you can find such cases very easily.
     
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    Of course it happens but obviously its not 90%.
     
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    Since when was consensual sex termed as 'rape'?

    The male female ratio has become so vast, that they are on the rampage.

    They are also very fond of consensual male sex, not amounting to rape?
     
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