82 Million Chinese Survive on Less Than $1 a Day, Says an Official

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  1. Srinivas_K

    Srinivas_K Senior Member Senior Member

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    82 Million Chinese Survive on Less Than $1 a Day, Says an Official

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    By one measure, China is set to surpass the U.S. this year in gross domestic product as the world’s largest economy—in terms of purchasing power parity (rather than nominal GDP), says the International Monetary Fund. China also has the world’s second-largest population of ultra-wealthy, with some 7,600 people possessing at least $50 million, according to a report released on Tuesday by Credit Suisse. (The U.S. remains No. 1 in its number of super-rich).

    Still, that wealth contrasts with impoverishment. About 82 million Chinese still live in poverty, an official announced at a press conference in Beijing on Tuesday, reported the China Daily.

    That figure is according to the Chinese poverty standard of about 2,300 yuan a year, or about $1 a day. Using the international standard of $1.25 a day, set by the World Bank, raises the figure to 200 million, said Zheng Wenkai, vice-minister of the State Council Leading Group Office of Poverty Alleviation and Development. This means that 15 percent of China’s population is impoverished, according to the broader measure.

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    All told, China has 120,000 villages plagued by poverty. Residents lack electricity, running water, schools, and proper health care, the English-language paper reported. Dire conditions are exacerbated by the fact that most are in remote, often mountainous parts of the country that have inadequate roads.

    “Poor populations are concentrated in extremely poor contiguous regions with poor living conditions, inadequate infrastructure as well as being afflicted with natural disasters,” the Global Times reported. Last year, China lifted 40 million residents out of poverty, and it plans to bring an additional 10 million out in 2014. China will send resident-assistance teams to the worst hit regions, the official said.

    How Poor Is China? - Businessweek
     
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  3. Ashutosh Lokhande

    Ashutosh Lokhande Senior Member Senior Member

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    very high chance that there might be many more but the ccp is hiding it.
     
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    s002wjh Senior Member Senior Member

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    China usually don't hide its poverty level reason been they can claim developing country status
     
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    anupamsurey Regular Member

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    it is common every where, the power and wealth is always concentrated in few hands, unless you are in a socialist country, but even in socialist environment few tend to have more than others, and noone should be shocked by it, it is the natural way...call it Darwinism or whatever.......after all you you dont find Ambanis, Tatas, and birlas in every corner of street.
     
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    Ashutosh Lokhande Senior Member Senior Member

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    yup, you got a point there.
    maybe they projecting poverty only that much which is necessary to prove itself at world stage that its still developing country, there by enjoying privalages.
     
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    Poverty is a huge problem, I see. I hope that when your region develops, it aims to deal with poverty with adequate social security network and education, like in Nordic countries. Not like in the US with huge policing and penal-system to deal with those less fortunate. What I have learned from Indian family oriented system with very few prisoners, I am quite hopeful that you will. Chinese being practical and smart also propably comes to that conclusion. Pakistan don´t have to worry, US will take care of those poor with Drones.
     
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    Same condition found in USA.
     
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    Many poor are located in mountainous areas especially remote landlocked "frontiers" of minority people. Like in Yunnan Province bordering Myanmar I saw a drunkard lying on the road, and heard "jokes" abt minorities. Or in Guizhou which features a spectacular limestone karst landscape with underground rivers. But that's too barren for agriculture hence minority groups are also dirt poor there.

    Below Guizhou Province = equivalent to Libya, Yunnan Province = Vietnam (Y2010)
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    same condition??? people living on 1$ a day in america???
     
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    1 dollar/day means that monthly family income is less than 500RMB(60 Usd) but even lowest_income jobs such as KFG boy and sweatshop workers in China can earn 2000~3000RMB(350-500USD) every month. so,the data of the report is quite unreliable ......
     
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    u can't just count in those in cities. how can those in remote rural villages on mountains , have access even to KFC jobs? like minority tribes I mentioned in Guizhou and Yunnan. their agri yield is very low and some may earn a few bucks from tourists or subsidies.

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    It is possible.

    The remote and mountainous areas cannot generate much of wealth, but I think the Chinese Govt is working towards improving the state of affairs there so that the income generation increases.

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    How much of wealth can the locals of this area generate?

    Or such picturesque and yet barren area as this?
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    Therefore, there are many reasons why poverty happens.
     
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    well,almost all young guys in chinese remote villiages now give up farming and work as workers ,waiters or securiters in cities and towns. most of family income even in remotest chinese villages are non~agriculture job salary of young guys,instead of agri yield farming.. the monthly salary of any jobs can hardly be less than 350USD(2000RMB) in china now. so,"1dollar 1 day"poverty now is just a outdated myth now ,although it is appriciated and popular by west medias.
     
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    you quote a wrong pic obviosly,which is a famous temple "悬空寺" and attract millions of touristors every year.. locals can easily live on tourism .
     
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    well, I don't mean that poverty doesn't exist in CHina now.

    instead, poverty is still a serious problem in china.
    however,in China today, even one low-income job in sweatshops can easily earn (400-500USD) 2000-3000RMB every monthly. one 3-members family with 2 sweatshop jobs can easily earn 800-1000USD( 5000RMB) every month.

    Thus, even "5 dollar(30RMB) one day" still means extreme poverty in CHina,because it means monthly 3-member family salary is just only 450USD( 2700 RMB ).

    "1 dollar one day" poverty in CHina is just a outdated myth ,which is popular among west media and appreciated by many indian members here.
     
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    badguy2000 Respected Member Senior Member

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    BTW

    the aveverage monthly income in CHina might be 500-850USD(3000-5000 RMB).

    low income jobs can usually earn only 350-700USD(2000-4000RMB),such as KFG boys, waiters, workers in sweatshops and low-rank civil servants,

    mid-class jobs usually can earn 18K USD(100KRMB) or morE every year,such as doctors, bank employees,engineers...etc.

    managers class jobs can usually earn 30KUSD(200KRMB) at least every years.
     
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    That is right tourism can sustain, but the aim of the picture was to show how difficult is the terrain and to feel it can be bountiful was kite flying.
     
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    Ray The Chairman Defence Professionals Moderator

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    That is OK for urban areas, but what about the remote areas is the issue raised?

    Like the Qinling Mountain Area, where a Poverty alleviation programme has been started.

    If pay was available as you mention in this area, then why would there be Qinling Mountain Area Poverty-Alleviation Project (QMAPAP)?

    Or the Qinba Mountains area where there is the Poverty Reduction Project?

    Let us not get nationalism in a twist.
     
  20. badguy2000

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    it seems that you still don't understand how 'sweatshop' changes china. most youth in remote area like Qinglong moutainous area have left their home villages as sweatshop workers or other low~income jobs. they can earn 400~500UsD(2000-3000Rmb) at least and remit a lot of their salary to their families(usually the old and the kids) in home villages. so,as long as one family member can find a sweatshop job outside the poor mountain area, the family can get out of '1 dollar/1day' poverty. case today is that jobs of 'sweatshop' is very easy to get,even in inland china,because china now is quite short of blue~collar labour seriously.
     
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    I live in Gannan prefecture ,which is also a poor moutainous area that can match qingling area or qinba area. I know exactly what has happened to those poor area. instead, many chinese in urban area still buy the myth that 1dollar/1day poverty is here ,just like you and west guys,because they has not visited here
     
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