68 year old Tibetan senior beaten up for "independence" protest

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  1. Ray

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    68 year old Tibetan senior beaten up for "independence" protest

    Chinese authorities in Driru County have arrested a Tibetan man on September 3 for protesting Chinese rule and demanding “independence” for Tibet, Ngawang Tharpa, a Tibetan exile with reliable contacts in the region, said.

    68 year old Dayang was severely beaten up and arrested after he shouted slogans demanding “independence” for Tibet and praying for the long life of the exiled Tibetan leader the Dalai Lama during a visit of Chinese work-team officials and a cultural troupe from the Tibet Autonomous Region government, Tharpa said, citing his source in Driru.

    Chinese work-team officials, accompanied by a cultural troupe from the Tibet Autonomous Region government are touring various villages and townships in Driru County to give political though education.

    Dayang was from Dongla Rido village in Tsachu area in Driru County.

    “Long live His Holiness the Dalai Lama, independence for Tibet”, chanted Dayang, raising a Tibetan traditional well-wishing scarf in his hands. He was immediately subdued and beaten up severely. He is currently receiving treatment in a hospital but his condition remains unknown as of September 9, the day Tharpa’s source gave the information.

    Work – team officials from the Chinese government are carrying out various campaigns including political thought education in Dathang, Tarchen and Tsachu areas of Driru County, according to Tharpa. Around 1000 security personnel have been deployed in the various villages and townships in the County with each officer getting three households to keep an eye on.

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    A unique Chinese way to stem protest.

    The fact that this ancient Tibetan raised the slogan when visit of Chinese work-team officials and a cultural troupe from the Tibet Autonomous Region government does indicate the frustration that has a grip over the Tibetan people.

    But the Chinese are a compassionate people. They thrsh the living hell out of ancient ageing people, but they also allow them medical attention.

    Real compassion, I will say!
     
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    NO Chinese around to explain?

    funny!
     
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    Same tactics as Palestinians to get international sympathy.
     
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    No need to bring tu quoque into the discussion. Ray's argument falls flat on its face because there is, de jure, nothing wrong with the situation. China has an anti-secession law on the books. It is legal to impose punishment as authorities deem fit on those who advocate secessionist activities or support secessionists.
     
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    It seems the Chinese here work hard to coordinate their efforts to smother any discussions which reflect poorly on China and its policies. Their positions and arguments derive from a strongly monolithic view, a tactic which Indians and others here don't use. It becomes a question of whether the collective can prevail over the truth.
     
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    Christ!

    People of Kashmir?

    They have their own Govt of Kashmiris.

    Have the Uighurs or the Tibetan?

    Do we do demographic change in Kashmir as you are doing in Tibet and Xinjiang where you are making it a Han territory?

    Only Kashmiris can buy, sell or settle in Kashmir!

    Have you not been reeding the unrest and riots and Han crackdown in Tibet and in Xinjiang?

    So, what are you frothing at the bit about?
     
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    Such truth will hurt the poor Chinese posters.

    They are famed for double talk and great in acrobatics to justify even issues they held contrary view earlier!

    The love bowling Chinamans (cricketing term). It means left arm unorthodox spin.

    Your post will skim off their backs and over their head!
     
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    Left-arm unorthodox spin bowlers use a wrist hand action to spin the ball which turns from off to leg side of the cricket pitch. The direction of turn is the same as that of a traditional right-handed off spin bowler; however, the ball will usually turn more sharply due to the spin being imparted predominantly by the wrist. Some left-arm unorthodox bowlers bowl a leg spinner's "googly" (or "wrong'un"), which turns from right to left on the cricket pitch. The ball turns away from the batsman, as if the bowler were an orthodox left-arm spinner.

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    there are police brutality everywhere even in the US, i'm sure india has those too. not that its alright but no country can get rid of these things. especially if that country is still in developing stage, has alot uneducated or ethnic educated people
     
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    Yes that is true.

    But China claims to be a great civilisation and cultured.

    But I go with your contention.

    I concede that the world has changed.
     
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    That is funny since they are killed by Indian security force! When all these killing happened, where was their own Govt?

    Yes, they do have their own govt!

    Yes, I have also been reading the unrest and riots and Indian crackdown in Kashmir since 1947!
     
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    And Local residents allege that BSF soldiers entered a mosque during a search operation and were rude and disrespectful to the mosque staff. When unarmed protesters gathered at the post, the BSF troops called for police support. The security forces then opened fire on the protesters, the local residents said.

    So, who is telling the truth? The shooter or the relatives of dead?
     
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    From the response of Indian members to any Kashmir thing, I don't see any difference between Indian and Chinese!
     
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    Sir, You will find none, Chinese are taught not to speak truth... rather Chinese trolls will prefer to bring in India and everything else when they lose an argument…
     
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    Actually, there is a difference: Indians on DFI never get called out for blatant bias and bandwagoning, while Chinese on DFI are assumed to be biased by default.

    Also, no one has bothered responding to my argument regarding the de jure acceptability of such a beating. The man broke the law and was punished for it. He deserved what he got.
     
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    Maybe this would indicate that you are wrong that none bothered to address the breaking of the law and on the action taken.

     
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    As far as bias of the Chinese is concerned, I presume that is because it is seen that the Chinese give stereotyped replies and post as if cyclostyled material is being churned out!

    Obviously, human being human beings have individuality and individual manner of thinking.

    Therefore, the uniformity of thought and style does raise issues that hos is it that they fail to exhibit individuality that is natural of the human race.

    This view is not only that the Indians here are feeling, it is also felt by non Indians too!
     
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    Omar Obdullah and the Kashmiris in the State Govt are from Mars?

    J&K Police is staffed by who?



    Elected by the People of their area?

    Or 'elected' by a hand picked Regional People's Congress nominated body?



    And why is that happening?

    Because of love for the Han?
     
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    Does Chinese law provide for beating without trial? Please cite such Chinese law in your Legal Code. Is such punishment equally applied? De jure, indeed.
     
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